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AtlanticBlue99
01-28-2005, 12:44 AM
im at 83k miles on my 99 stang and i can smell some oil burnage goin on. saturday im not working so ill be getting my first oil change ever (16 yrs old). i want a high viscosity thicker oil so it will last longer but who should i take it to? it is going to be freezing cold with a chance of ice (wtf- its georgia) and i dont want to do it myself. quaker state? tires plus? wal-mart? what is the lowest i can pay to get it done (im a bargain shopper)?
thanks.

98stngfrk
01-28-2005, 01:06 AM
COME ON do it your self, i would go with 5w-30, the problem with letting a place to do it is first of all you can do it it takes litarally 10-15 minutes of your time and second when you go to places like those they tend to use air guns when they put the oil drain plug back in and i know quite a few people who have had thier plugs stripped or have even ended up with a loose filter or something. YOU CAN DO IT

SilverGTV8
01-28-2005, 01:12 AM
Changing viscoity on a motor with that many miles is asking for trouble. You can run the risk of damaging rings. I wouldn't recommend synthtic either. Synthetic has a tnedcy on high milage motors to leak and acutally cause more oil consumption.

But either way. If your a bargin shopper do it your self and learn a little bit more about your car.

I have and always will change my own oil. I will always work on my car if anything needs to be done. If it is out of my league it will go to some one I trust. But under no circumstance will some body I don't know and/or trust move my car yet alone take a wrench to it.

AtlanticBlue99
01-28-2005, 01:33 AM
i helped my dad change the oil on his boat when winterizing it in sept. but i dont live with him and dont have anyone to walk me through how to do it on my car. i dont want to mess up anyhting- in my situation, it would be easier to get it done then to walk myself through it. i walked myself through everything else ive done and it takes 2x as long as it should for easy installs.

Chopper
01-28-2005, 12:44 PM
Do you have access to tools?If not ,go buy some.Don't get cheap import crap either,you will be dissapointed.If you have metric tools,go ahead and change your own oil.You will learn about your car and save a few $$$ in the process.The more you know about your car and can inteligently communicate to service people will save you much heartache in the future.You remember the TV commercial where the guy is stranded along the road and says to the tow truck drivers."I think there's something broken in there".Then they just smile.This happens everytime anyone goes into a service center.You will be sized up and judged by what you tell the service provider.If you can tell them the exact nature of the trouble and give them your intelligent ideas then they know they can't rape you.Otherwize,if you ever have to use the word"thingy"to describe car trouble,You can expect to get hammered.Brave the freezing cold wastelands of Georgia and venture out and change the oil.Warm the engine first so it will drain faster and have at it.

DIVER8374
01-28-2005, 01:39 PM
I would have to agree with Chopper, get some tools (some good ones, Craftsman, MAC, ect) jack up the car and take 20 min to change your oil. I have always done my own and always do it myself. I have known some friend that took it to thoes fast oil change places and gotten totally screwed over (drain plug stripped and then fell out of car, they use the same oil that came out of your car and just install a new filter, ect.) I would never trust anyone that is getting paid min. wage to cange my oil. It is very simple, i learned to do it when I was like 9 or 10 on my parents cars, it is a piece of cake and if this is your 1st tiem and it takes you 30-40 mins. so be it. you are better off learning and doing it your self. good luck

AtlanticBlue99
01-28-2005, 02:43 PM
ok ill do it. any basic procedure i need to know (like a walkthrough) and what type of oil is best for high miles?

YinYangStang
01-28-2005, 03:06 PM
Screw that, go to jiffy lube. Sure there are horror stories, it's a large country with lots of mechanics. Jiffy lube will check all your fluid levels so you know if anything else is going on. Just be sure to say no to any extra work they offer to do beyond the oil and filter change. Hell, my jiffy lube even vacuums and does my windows.

DIVER8374
01-28-2005, 03:33 PM
all you need to do is warm the car up, do this by going to the store to get your oil filter and the oil that you need, look in the manuel and see how many qts of oil you will need with the filter change. then when you get home jack up the car take out the drain plug in the oil pan, wait till it is all empty, put plug back in (becarful not to tighten it too much, turn till stops then tap on handle a couple of times with your hand and that is good). no remove your oil filter, before installing the new one, take the rubber ring off the top and lube it with your new oil, replace the rubber ring, then ( this is something i always do, but you don't have to) carefully pour some oil into your new filter, it does not take much, pour some in then look in the hole and watch till it all goes into filter, then add some more, install new oil filter in place, hand tighten, you do not need to use a wrench for this, it should be only hand tight. then go to top of engine and add all the rest of the new oil. once all new oil is in start car and let idle for a min. or so, Thats all you are done, not take all the used oil and dispose of it (most places that sell oil with take the old oil and recycle it for ya. You have just dne your 1st oil change!!! easy huh? have fun!!!!

devinsteen
01-28-2005, 04:19 PM
ORIGINAL: SilverGTV8

Changing viscoity on a motor with that many miles is asking for trouble. You can run the risk of damaging rings. I wouldn't recommend synthtic either. Synthetic has a tnedcy on high milage motors to leak and acutally cause more oil consumption.

I though sythetic is suppose to be better for your engine. Why would it burn more oil using syntheitc?

roundman
01-28-2005, 04:37 PM
if you really don't feel comfortable right now doing it yourself, just take it to the nearest Ford dealer and get them to change it. They usually have deals where they do it for around $20 bucks or so and you can be sure it will done correctly too as dealerships have to maintain their reputation for good service work and they don't have high school dropouts doing service work for them like some of the quick change places do either.

horseshoeing
01-28-2005, 04:48 PM
Where do you live? Where in GA? Maybe some could help you.

AtlanticBlue99
01-28-2005, 08:30 PM
live n augusta. did it today, with help. new filter and oil. 5w30. did filter only b/c i dont know when it was last changed, thanks for the help.

Deannostang
01-28-2005, 08:56 PM
Take it to Jiffy Lube or another national quick oil change shop. Don't forget you also get additional perks with shops like Jiffy Lube: 1) they have all varieties of oil viscosities and specialty oils like synthetic, semi-sythetic and high-mileage oils for you to choose from; my locale JL even carries Mobile 1 (I suggest either 10w30 semi-synthetic or high-mileage), 2) they thoroughly check your suspension and seals under your car for leaks and tighten if necessary as well as lube your chassis if applicable (also true of water & tranny lines under your hood), 3) they set your tire pressure all the way around to proper specs so you don't wear your tires down prematurely, 4) they top off your windshield washer fluid and radiator coolant in your overflow tank (if you are very low on coolant you may have to pay a small upcharge for a gallon of antifreeze but, so what, it's done and full - they also check your coolant that it protects your engine down to the proper below zero level), AND, which I think pays for itself over and over, 5) you can go into any Jiffy Lube at 500 mile intervals and they will completely "top-off" your fluids (oil, washer & coolant) at NO CHARGE! What the f@#*, how can you possibly beat that? They also do transmission flushes (complete including torque converters with AOD's), radiator flushes, change serpentine belts, state inspections, fuel injector cleaning, etc. Plus, you don't have to accumulate all that spent oil only to haul it off later for disposal. ALL IN 10 TO 15 MINUTES!! Come on, why be hassled unnecessarily. Take your car in.

Deannostang
01-28-2005, 09:05 PM
I suppose I should explain the Royal Purple in my '98 GT. Another good shop to take your car for oil is Pep Boys, providing you have one near you. For $15 they will put in any oil and filter you buy at their warehouse. I always choose Mobile 1 or Royal Purple (only $1 more than Mobile 1 per quart at PP) and a high-volume, micro-fine filter such as Purolator's top of the line blue filter (rate #1 for "continued" oil passage, not just single pass as other filters are rated and made for synthetic use). You go to the service counter, tell them what you want or bring the products to the counter with you. Simple as that. This way you know you are getting all premium parts for sure. Only draw back there is you have to wait your turn for service unlike the in/out drive throughs of the Jiffy Lube type oil shops. Take your pick. I do both from time to time. Have at it.

horseshoeing
01-28-2005, 11:21 PM
ORIGINAL: AtlanticBlue99

live n augusta. did it today, with help. new filter and oil. 5w30. did filter only b/c i dont know when it was last changed, thanks for the help.


Its good to know how to do you own work.

YinYangStang
01-29-2005, 02:53 AM
Did anyone else look at the first post really quickly and think damn, no oil change for 83,000 miles??

AtlanticBlue99
01-29-2005, 03:06 AM
actually it was no change for 3k miles, the car has 83k miles on it now. i bought it at 80k miles.

98stngfrk
01-29-2005, 03:10 AM
Thought about it, but then just thought to myself this can't be true. Oh-well maybe he bought the car used with 80,000 miles or 70, or 60, or O-lord thats a tuff little engine then. Oh and ATLANTICBLUE99, make sure you change the filter everytime you change your oil, i noticed you said you changed the filter this time because you didn't know when the last time the filter had been changed.

AtlanticBlue99
01-29-2005, 03:41 AM
98stngfk, what is the best oil for high mile cars, say 88k when i do my next oil change? and change the filter every time? go with the motorcraft, fram, or what filter as well?

Pacman
01-29-2005, 12:37 PM
yea, its a good idea to change your filter every time you change your oil. hand tighten filter.

vfast
01-29-2005, 12:50 PM
looks like we have your normal drivers here ..afraid to get thier hands dirty so easy to pay someone to do it..while you bitch @ THE cost to mush...dude buy yourself a mustang manual//learn about your car.. that some pride into yourself and change your own oil..when your done.....your have that I did it feeling...and you'll laugh with me at these lazy so called racers:)

AtlanticBlue99
01-29-2005, 01:29 PM
i have all the pride there can be. i am 16, havent done it before and there is noone here to walk me through it. thats why i posted this topic on the forums.

vfast
01-29-2005, 01:46 PM
dude my comment wasn't really to you. as you want to change your oil.....it straight forward ..drive the car up on ramps while the car cools go gather up your tools and a 6+ qt. pan...all you really need is a 6-8 inch cresant wrench, some paper towels, oil filter wrench....put the bucket under the drain plug located on the bottom of pan,turn bolt counterclockwise with wrench to lossen then finish with turning with your finger so the bolt doesn't end up in the oil...when drained tighten bolt up..not not over tighten...take your oil wrench and pull the filter off..use a good quality filter like k/n,amsoil,hastings....after you pull the filter out clean the oil filter base on the engine with a clean rag or the like..fill the new filter up with new oil and let it soak up take a lil oil and put on the rubber seal on the filter then screw the filter on...about 1 turn after you feel it snug up....then fill up engine with oil...start engine and look for leaks..no leak then pull off ramps shut off check oil level if ok ..put away tools,ramps..and you have done your first oil change!;)

Fat Nick
01-29-2005, 10:52 PM
vtec like whoa

thelast50ho
01-30-2005, 03:57 PM
yea cchangin oil is realy easy so if u wana save money just doit yourself. id recomend useing 10w30 regular oil maybe even try the maxlife oil to help swell the seals up

sanitarium16
01-31-2005, 05:26 PM
Don't go to Jiffy Lube they use s*it parts. Go to Ford. Its the same price for an oil change as jiffy lube and its better parts

horseshoeing
01-31-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't like to get my hands dirty. You have to crawl on the ground and and get dirty[:'(]. What would the people at the club say? I just could not bring myself to that level. I pay someone do do it.









































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YinYangStang
01-31-2005, 11:49 PM
ORIGINAL: vfast

looks like we have your normal drivers here ..afraid to get thier hands dirty so easy to pay someone to do it..while you bitch @ THE cost to mush...dude buy yourself a mustang manual//learn about your car.. that some pride into yourself and change your own oil..when your done.....your have that I did it feeling...and you'll laugh with me at these lazy so called racers:)


I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty, it's just by far a better deal to have jiffy lube do my oil for me. You act like changing the oil in a car is this monumental, down and dirty, amazing thing you can do to really be the hands on kind of guy...when it's really just taking out a bolt, waiting, putting it back in and filling. My mom could change my oil dude, a 4 year old could do it if they could summon the torque for the wrench, it's not hard.

horseshoeing
02-01-2005, 12:13 AM
If you love your car you have to be one with you car. Not changing you oil is not being one with your car. How do you know you car it you don't change the oil your your car?

Ok, really, your know you car better if you do the work on it.

DaGGer
02-01-2005, 12:39 AM
doing the oil is easy....

go and get the parts you need stated earlier....then come back jack up the front end....get an oil pan to hold the oil it should be pretty big so that way you don't have it spilling all over the place....next unbolt the bolt that in the oil pan...jsut wait for all the oil to come out .....then put the bolt back in...go and take the oil filter off and get the new one...take some oil and put it around the rbber ring....also some people put oil in the filter before the put it back on...its a pain in the ass but its a good thing to do...then open the oil thing on the engine and put the oil in the car....there your done...now you have to find some place to put the old oil.....oh yea when you taking the bolt off some times they tend to be really hard to take off so take an easy on it because you dont' want to break it...when you put back in tighten it down but don't crank it down....thats all i can think of....good luck do your self...makes you feel very good about yourself when your done...

YinYangStang
02-01-2005, 01:16 PM
ORIGINAL: horseshoeing

Ok, really, your know you car better if you do the work on it.


Since when did changing the oil equate to doing the work on it? We're not talking about replacing a transmission or adding in custom parts or anything like that, it's just changing the oil. If my performance mufflers needed to be replaced every 3 months then you'd can bet I'd have jiffy muff do it, because it's just a routine service then, not work.

vfast
02-01-2005, 01:33 PM
yin...while you lazy ass is sitting at jiffy lube watching tv a real car guy doesn't let anyone work on his baby....funny thing is I have seen several of people like yourself leave ole jiffy lube and have to be towed because the poor lube guy forgot to put the oil in.....:)

DIVER8374
02-01-2005, 02:15 PM
I totally agree with ya vfast, and that is why i do all the work i can myself, and if is is someting i can not do i take ot to a friend that works at a garage that can do the work and that i trust!!!!

YinYangStang
02-01-2005, 03:22 PM
I guess I'm not a 'real' car guy then, oh well. If you need me, I'll be at the Ford Dealership getting my tires rotated and my windshield wiper fluid refilled.

vfast
02-01-2005, 07:02 PM
yeah and don't forget the get the blinker fluid checked....your what we call drivers:D

AtlanticBlue99
02-01-2005, 07:14 PM
ORIGINAL: YinYangStang

I guess I'm not a 'real' car guy then, oh well. If you need me, I'll be at the Ford Dealership getting my tires rotated and my windshield wiper fluid refilled.



thats pushing it. this was my first oil change ever and my dads not around so i needed advice. i top off my brake fluid, windshield wiper fluid, and all that easy maintanance. i did all my mods i got listed, minus the hu because circuit city does it for free.i love to work on my car and learn more things about it. thanks guys for the help.

vfast
02-01-2005, 07:18 PM
any time my friend!

I G Joe
02-02-2005, 12:24 AM
i knew how to change the oil at 12 or less. im 17 now and own an 86 mustang LX with a 2.3L. soon to be Turbo 2.3L =D