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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 1:46:40 PM   
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I think your problem is in the bypass valve....When you shift after being on boost the presure has to be let out by a valve on the back of the SC. If the valve is not working the presure will be very high in the SC and cause a sudden high load on the belt...Just a thought...Instructions to check the valve are in the last pages of the SC install.

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 4:27:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Turbosetch

I think your problem is in the bypass valve....When you shift after being on boost the presure has to be let out by a valve on the back of the SC. If the valve is not working the presure will be very high in the SC and cause a sudden high load on the belt...Just a thought...Instructions to check the valve are in the last pages of the SC install.


If you are sure the alignment is right and there is nothing interfering with the belt this could very well be your problem. You should definitaly check it out, especially since it`s breaking under load and on your shift from 3 to 4. Normally the 3 to 4 shift is under full load anyway. Any more on the belt may be the straw that broke the camel`s back.

Turbosetch, that`s a great call. May or may not be the problem, but it`s got to be something.

Eric

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 4:28:55 PM   
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well the stang is back home safe and sound and is runnin like a champ i checked the belt right after i turned it off and it looks fine they replaced the hood liner and fixed the knock sensor so i'm satisfied now

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 5:22:13 PM   
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why did they replace the knock sensor,  and i hope the promblem is fixed

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 5:24:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fadetoblack172

well the stang is back home safe and sound and is runnin like a champ i checked the belt right after i turned it off and it looks fine they replaced the hood liner and fixed the knock sensor so i'm satisfied now


So what was the problem and what was wrong with your knock sensor? 

They replaced the hood liner?  Whipple says in their instructions that the pulley can rub on the hood liner and recommend removing it.  Not sure why they would replace it

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 5:29:59 PM   
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when the belt snapped this past time it ripped up the hood liner and ripped off a knock sensor so they replaced both

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 6:06:22 PM   
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This may or may not be a problem with your whipple, but I heard that whipple had several batches (if that is correct) of SC leave the factory with the snot being about a 10th of an inch off center (if that makes sense) you may want to check and make sure that the snot is straight.

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 6:38:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fadetoblack172

when the belt snapped this past time it ripped up the hood liner and ripped off a knock sensor so they replaced both


Couldn't have been a knock sensor. Those are under the intake manifold bolted right to the heads.

It was probably one of these resistors:



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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 6:47:12 PM   
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really? thats what is was then

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RE: whipple problems - 8/20/2007 7:17:32 PM   
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I don't understand your question, but I think it may have been a couple of months, but if you brought the whipple from a reseller, who knows how long it has been sitting.  Dude you need to call whipple.

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RE: whipple problems - 8/21/2007 5:16:19 AM   
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I'm not sure what question you are responding too, but I assure you no one has whipples sitting on the shelf.  That's because no one stocks these things.  It's much easier and cheaper to drop ship them. How would you like to have 30K tied up in 5 whipple superchargers sitting in your warehouse?  When they were first released they were building them ahead of time, but now they are all built to order.

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ORIGINAL: sactown

I don't understand your question, but I think it may have been a couple of months, but if you brought the whipple from a reseller, who knows how long it has been sitting.  Dude you need to call whipple.


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RE: whipple problems - 8/21/2007 5:53:22 AM   
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Well now that there seems to be some resolution, what do you think of the non-int Whipple.  Hows the drive compared to stock?  Driveability problems (besides belt)?  Satisfied with the power increase for the $? 

Also is it hot and humid where you live right now?  Alot of people are saying that the non-int kits wont run well in high temps?

This S/C is on my short list of what I am looking to install so I am very interested.

Thanks and glad to here you have the car back, I hope everything is fixed now.

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RE: whipple problems - 8/21/2007 11:04:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fadetoblack172

when the belt snapped this past time it ripped up the hood liner and ripped off a knock sensor so they replaced both


As doctorstrobe pointed out there is no way for a belt to reach the knock sensors. I'd think the installer made a mistake, fixed it, but dont want to accept it was their fault. At any rate I am glad your problem is fixed one way or the other. You'll be very happy with your S/C

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RE: whipple problems - 8/21/2007 1:08:18 PM   
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oh i love the power increase...i wasnt very satisfied with stock cuz i had an 05 srt-4 with lets say ALOT of bolt ons and i wasted a few new gt's on the highway with that car before it blew up haha but i do love the power... i wanted the h.o. kit but didnt quite have enough money for that kit, and i can always upgrade i looked into it and its like 1800 1900 bucks to upgrade which i may do.....i haven't decided what to do next

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RE: whipple problems - 8/21/2007 1:11:24 PM   
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Glad everything is ok.  But still when i decide to supercharge i'm gonna look around for some other places(maybe Evolution but they are like 2 1/2 hours from me) or maybe tackle it myself before going to CJ's since that was the place i was thinking about originally and now hearing your problems with the same system i wanted to get irks me a bit 

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RE: whipple problems - 8/24/2007 4:06:51 PM   
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I was at Evolution today asking about adding a SC.  I went in wanting a KB or HO whipple, apparently they are crap according to Evo.  They want me to pay $9300 for a saleen (installed and tuned).  That sounds high to me.  I was thinking about trying CJ despite the drive.  Now I'm thinking Stock might be the answer. Sigh.

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RE: whipple problems - 8/24/2007 5:27:50 PM   
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$9300!!!! I'm calling BS!  I want to hear evolution performances response to this post.

If you're in Delaware why not go to JDM in NJ?

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I was at Evolution today asking about adding a SC.  I went in wanting a KB or HO whipple, apparently they are crap according to Evo.  They want me to pay $9300 for a saleen (installed and tuned).  That sounds high to me.  I was thinking about trying CJ despite the drive.  Now I'm thinking Stock might be the answer. Sigh.


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RE: whipple problems - 8/24/2007 6:15:23 PM   
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I have an email with that price on it.  Went in there today at lunch and got the same story.  Just got an email from Jim Bell answering things I was told about kenne bell sc at the evo counter today.  Where is JDM?  Whats the full name for my /search?

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RE: whipple problems - 8/24/2007 6:28:13 PM   
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where's fan boy    getting the popcorn ready

let 'er rip killer

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RE: whipple problems - 8/24/2007 7:02:24 PM   
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Not sure why anyone would be interested, (unless there is someone as uncertain about what to add to their vehicle as I am), but to be clear and show that I'm honest I could post the email threads.

Warning! Drama Content!

First email:


To: webmaster@evoperform.com
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 7:40 PM
Subject: 2006 Mustang GT
 Hi,
 
            I have an everyday drive 2006 Mustang GT with manual transmission and no mods.  I would like to add some horsepower but really really really don’t want to blow it up.  I’ve been looking around the internet at various superchargers (mostly inter-cooled low boost roots style like roush, saleen and steeda) and waffling over whether I should just get a CAI with a good tuner and forget the supercharger.  From the few forums I have found it seems that the general consensus is that I need to stay at or below 400 rwhp or I would need to start changing out engine parts like pistons/rods etc.  What I need is some advice/recommendations on good options based on experience, costs and a shop that can do the work (I’m nearby in Delaware).  My work email is the best way to get in touch xxxxxxxxxxxxx but my cell is xxxxxxxxxxxx 
 
Thanks for the help,
 
 
1st reply
 
From: Fred Cook [mailto:webmaster@evoperform.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:27 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 2006 Mustang GT
Importance: High

 

I would give us a call and setup a time you can come in and we can go over some options. The first thing I would do is establish a budget.
 
Fred Cook
Evolution Performance, Inc.
3606 Market St.
Aston, PA 19014
610-485-3596
www.evoperform.com

 
Next email
 
 
Hi Fred,
 
            As far as natural aspirated options the Steeda Power Kit (part 555-2410) seems to have everything including: high flow CAI with SCT X2 tuner, under drive pulleys, a charge motion plate delete, 4.10:1 rear axle gears (with an installation kit) and axle back exhaust.  They list it for $1800.  I’d be interested in your opinion and your cost for purchase and installation.  I’m guessing I’d get something like 65 hp out of it (which would put me about 335 at the wheels?).  Dou you run vehicles on your dyno after mods?
 
As for the forced air option Kenne Bell lists a TS1000-05-int kit at $5700 (it’s a dual screw 8-13 psi inter cooled sc).  What would be the installed cost with you guys doing the work?  I would want it at the max pulley size (minimum boost).  Any thoughts on the super charger option?
 
Thanks,
 
 
Got no email reply so I called and was told some stuff about kenne bell and whipple and that saleen was the way to go, but that their kit was crap and had to be replaced so I followed up with an email asking for the price.
 
 
 
To: webmaster@evoperform.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: supercharger

Hello,

I'm looking into getting a supercharger for my 2006 mustang GT (manual, currently no mods). I'd like a price on purchase and installation for the saleen supercharger we talked about on the phone.

Thanks,



and this is what they sent back


From: Fred Cook [
mailto:webmaster@evoperform.com]
Sent: Tue 8/21/2007 8:35 AM
To: Barker,Robert
Subject: Re: supercharger

$5,100.00 - Saleen Supercharger
$400.00 - Injectors
$250.00 - Lowered Motor Mounts
$125.00 - Plugs
$175.00 - 3.4" Pulley
$275.00 - BAP Installed
$175.00 - Mafia
$275.00 - CNL Racer
$1500.00 - Labor
$25.00 - Coolant
$400.00 - SCT Xcalibrator 2
$600.00 - Custom Dyno Tune

$9,300.00

Fred Cook
Evolution Performance, Inc.
3606 Market St.
Aston, PA 19014
610-485-3596
www.evoperform.com <http://www.evoperform.com>
 
 
went in today and got another lesson on kenne bell and whipple problems and why this is what I should buy.
 
 
Hopefully I didn't violate any board policies or boor you to death.
 
 
So where is JDM?

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