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Question for those with vortech SC, whipple and saleen? - 8/6/2007 4:46:29 PM   
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I'm really looking for people who installed their own.  Did you have any trouble modifying the coolant crossover tube? I read someone broke theirs trying to remove the inner tube. My other question is how hard would it be to get the car back to driveable condition if you had to remove the supercharger for service/repair.  I'm not totally sure why the crossover tube is modified, would you need to put all the coolant lines back to stock to run without the blower?  I'm trying to think of worse case scenarios.  I'm getting ready to order the vortech kit from brenspeed.  I should be installing it on Sept 09.

By other question has to do with oil getting sucked into the intake.  Is this a problem with the vortech kit?


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/6/2007 5:42:59 PM   
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I cant venture any help on the modifications....however since its a 13-15 hour job to install and you have to tap the oil pan and remove the stock coolant tank, relocate the alternator and a few other items.... IMO its not practical to remove for warranty work.(my assumption for why u asked)

you'd need at least a day to remove and then a second day to reinstall.....


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 12:27:05 AM   
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I was talking about warranty work on the supercharger or even repairing it out of warranty.  I don't remembering reading about relocating the alternator in the paxton instructions.  I haven't found the vortech instructions online, if anyone knows where they are please shoot me a link.


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 3:02:19 AM   
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ahh.... you werent specific the way it was worded...

I was working from memory about the alternator.... .I maybe off in my recolection....

google is your friend....  http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/pdf/manuals/4FU218im.pdf 

pg 19 

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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 5:03:05 PM   
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You know I looked on the vortech site and had a hell of a time navigating.  Looks just like the paxton install.

The part about heating the coolant crossover tube is all I'm worried about and then it says to insert the plug and use sealer.  What sealer, i don't know.  I'll ask brent at brenspeed what they use to heat it and what sealer they use.

Vortech going on Sept. 9th unless I change my mind before then.

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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 5:11:05 PM   
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Change your mind before it's to late. Go with the Saleen. I currently have a Procharger on my F-150 and if i could do it over again I would not get a Centrifugal Supercharger.

And screw that tapping into your oil pan crap.

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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 5:26:48 PM   
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Frankly, i was turned off by the saleen due to all the problems with dropping the transmission.  I don't need all the hassle.  Plus I allready have 4.10 gears, i don't need anymore torque down low on the street.

Beside the hassle of putting a hole in the pan for the return line, it makes more sense to use filtered engine oil don't you think?

I also want it to be quiet, not sure the saleen can deliver that.

Did you ever have leaking problems with your procharger?  I've read their earlier models had leaking problems.  I'm assuming your procharger was a self contained unit.


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Change your mind before it's to late. Go with the Saleen. I currently have a Procharger on my F-150 and if i could do it over again I would not get a Centrifugal Supercharger.

And screw that tapping into your oil pan crap.

Richard


< Message edited by moosestang -- 8/7/2007 5:30:42 PM >


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 5:47:32 PM   
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By the way, thanks a lot for putting me in doubt again.  I'm no asking brent about the saleen stage 1 package, should be $5300 minus the tuner.  $1300 ain't much when i'm allready dropping $4k.

Anyone want to start a centri vs. twin screw debate?  Which will give less problems/last longer?  Which do you think is easier to install?  Looks like the saleen is easier to me, i asked brent his opinion, but judging by the $650/one day install price, i'm guessing the saleen.

quote:

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Change your mind before it's to late. Go with the Saleen. I currently have a Procharger on my F-150 and if i could do it over again I would not get a Centrifugal Supercharger.

And screw that tapping into your oil pan crap.

Richard


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 5:51:44 PM   
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well moose, since it was YOU who opened the door

PLEASE PLEASE go with the whipple non intercooled,
I BEG YOU!


i only want the best for your stang, cause i know how much you
love her.....




quote:

ORIGINAL: moosestang

By the way, thanks a lot for putting me in doubt again.  I'm no asking brent about the saleen stage 1 package, should be $5300 minus the tuner.  $1300 ain't much when i'm allready dropping $4k.

Anyone want to start a centri vs. twin screw debate?  Which will give less problems/last longer?  Which do you think is easier to install?  Looks like the saleen is easier to me, i asked brent his opinion, but judging by the $650/one day install price, i'm guessing the saleen.

quote:

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Change your mind before it's to late. Go with the Saleen. I currently have a Procharger on my F-150 and if i could do it over again I would not get a Centrifugal Supercharger.

And screw that tapping into your oil pan crap.

Richard


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 5:56:18 PM   
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I don't think brenspeed has a tune for the whipple. I've read plenty that the whipple tune sucks!  I don't really like the look of the whipple or the KB to tell you the truth.  The saleen looks the best in the engine compartment, but looks aren't everything.

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ORIGINAL: hammeron

well moose, since it was YOU who opened the door

PLEASE PLEASE go with the whipple non intercooled,
I BEG YOU!


i only want the best for your stang, cause i know how much you
love her.....




quote:

ORIGINAL: moosestang

By the way, thanks a lot for putting me in doubt again.  I'm no asking brent about the saleen stage 1 package, should be $5300 minus the tuner.  $1300 ain't much when i'm allready dropping $4k.

Anyone want to start a centri vs. twin screw debate?  Which will give less problems/last longer?  Which do you think is easier to install?  Looks like the saleen is easier to me, i asked brent his opinion, but judging by the $650/one day install price, i'm guessing the saleen.

quote:

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Change your mind before it's to late. Go with the Saleen. I currently have a Procharger on my F-150 and if i could do it over again I would not get a Centrifugal Supercharger.

And screw that tapping into your oil pan crap.

Richard




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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 6:16:40 PM   
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Does anyone know if the whipples are shipping with a tuner now?  I know when they first came out you had to send your computer to them.  For $4274, i could buy the whipple and have it dyno tuned by VMPtuning. 

I'm never going to be able to make this decision.  My vacation starts sept. 8th and I plan on installing a supercharger of some kind!

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ORIGINAL: hammeron

well moose, since it was YOU who opened the door

PLEASE PLEASE go with the whipple non intercooled,
I BEG YOU!


i only want the best for your stang, cause i know how much you
love her.....




quote:

ORIGINAL: moosestang

By the way, thanks a lot for putting me in doubt again.  I'm no asking brent about the saleen stage 1 package, should be $5300 minus the tuner.  $1300 ain't much when i'm allready dropping $4k.

Anyone want to start a centri vs. twin screw debate?  Which will give less problems/last longer?  Which do you think is easier to install?  Looks like the saleen is easier to me, i asked brent his opinion, but judging by the $650/one day install price, i'm guessing the saleen.

quote:

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Change your mind before it's to late. Go with the Saleen. I currently have a Procharger on my F-150 and if i could do it over again I would not get a Centrifugal Supercharger.

And screw that tapping into your oil pan crap.

Richard




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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 6:18:00 PM   
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well it is true that the looks of the whipple is an
aquired taste

i do love the saleen VI also, so if there's any chance for
you to go with the stage 1, then i would be extremely
happy as well




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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 6:21:25 PM   
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VORTECH!!!!  FTW.....

just my .02....

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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 6:25:03 PM   
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So long as it's an unbiased opinion.

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ORIGINAL: Stkjock

VORTECH!!!!  FTW.....

just my .02....

435 RWHP 382 TQ  a beast in the upper revs



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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 6:34:29 PM   
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what happens is, when you get your kit, there will be
a voucher in it that tells you how to log onto the FRPP
web site, there you will register your kit and will soon
receive the ford flash tool (only took about 2 days for mine).

i don't know where you read about crappy tunes, but a lot
of people over at (the other site) are running the frpp tune
and are producing respectable (and safe) numbers.

VMP is also an excellent option for you after you get on the
road.....


quote:

ORIGINAL: moosestang

Does anyone know if the whipples are shipping with a tuner now? 




quote:

ORIGINAL: hammeron

well moose, since it was YOU who opened the door

PLEASE PLEASE go with the whipple non intercooled,
I BEG YOU!


i only want the best for your stang, cause i know how much you
love her.....




quote:

ORIGINAL: moosestang

By the way, thanks a lot for putting me in doubt again.  I'm no asking brent about the saleen stage 1 package, should be $5300 minus the tuner.  $1300 ain't much when i'm allready dropping $4k.

Anyone want to start a centri vs. twin screw debate?  Which will give less problems/last longer?  Which do you think is easier to install?  Looks like the saleen is easier to me, i asked brent his opinion, but judging by the $650/one day install price, i'm guessing the saleen.

quote:

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Change your mind before it's to late. Go with the Saleen. I currently have a Procharger on my F-150 and if i could do it over again I would not get a Centrifugal Supercharger.

And screw that tapping into your oil pan crap.

Richard




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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 6:35:09 PM   
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for me it made the most sense.....docile to cruise with... a beast to race......

fact of the matter.... which ever system u chose.... you'll love it.....


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 6:51:23 PM   
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amen, my boosting brotha 



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for me it made the most sense.....docile to cruise with... a beast to race......

fact of the matter.... which ever system u chose.... you'll love it.....


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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/7/2007 7:09:51 PM   
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moose, whether ya get the black or the polished,
who could resist.........resistance is futile

and art needs another boat, so come on 




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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/8/2007 2:07:21 AM   
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Anyone have a video of the whipple at idle/cruise/wot?

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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 8/8/2007 2:11:25 AM   
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I will in about 2 wks time!  I will email them to you when she is done!

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