I could be wrong, but I think even the NON IC whipple kit has you change the thermostat to a 160, not sure though. I could always wire the pump to come on with the cooling fan.
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ORIGINAL: blackhorse05
the blower shoyuld have a inlet and a outlet, it might have a block but nothing crazy, they sell the kits for upgrades, so i asume its ready to go. you dont need a crazy pump becase the travel isnt that far, a lightning pump would work, its prob the same pump in the cobra. the air hits the h/e while the pump circulates the coolant through the blower. it should work, i thought about it today as i was thinking about this thread.
2 ISSUES I HAVE. I KNOW THE SALEEN HAS A INTRCOOLER IN THE VALLEY UNDER THE S/C, I DONT KNOW ABOUT WHIPPLE, YOU NEED TO SEE WHAT THE I/C VERSION COMES WITH
THE SECOND IS YOU WILL HAVE TO WIRE THE PUMP TO TURN ON AS SOON AS YOU TURN THE KEY, THIS IS BECASE YOU WONT HAVE ALL THE COMPUTER CRAP WITH THE WHIPPLE TO RUN A THERMASTAT. SO IF THE PUMP ALWAYS RUNS, THE BETTER ANYWAY, NEXT IS CHANGE YOUR MOTOR THERMOSTATE, 170 OR SOMETHING. I THINK IT COULD WORK
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
I could be wrong, but I think even the NON IC whipple kit has you change the thermostat to a 160, not sure though. I could always wire the pump to come on with the cooling fan.
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ORIGINAL: blackhorse05
the blower shoyuld have a inlet and a outlet, it might have a block but nothing crazy, they sell the kits for upgrades, so i asume its ready to go. you dont need a crazy pump becase the travel isnt that far, a lightning pump would work, its prob the same pump in the cobra. the air hits the h/e while the pump circulates the coolant through the blower. it should work, i thought about it today as i was thinking about this thread.
2 ISSUES I HAVE. I KNOW THE SALEEN HAS A INTRCOOLER IN THE VALLEY UNDER THE S/C, I DONT KNOW ABOUT WHIPPLE, YOU NEED TO SEE WHAT THE I/C VERSION COMES WITH
THE SECOND IS YOU WILL HAVE TO WIRE THE PUMP TO TURN ON AS SOON AS YOU TURN THE KEY, THIS IS BECASE YOU WONT HAVE ALL THE COMPUTER CRAP WITH THE WHIPPLE TO RUN A THERMASTAT. SO IF THE PUMP ALWAYS RUNS, THE BETTER ANYWAY, NEXT IS CHANGE YOUR MOTOR THERMOSTATE, 170 OR SOMETHING. I THINK IT COULD WORK
Nope the pump works all the time and has nothing to do with the fans, the engine runs, then the pump runs, actually as soon as you turn the key to the "on" position the pump will start even if the engine didnt.
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2007 SIlver GT Whipple HO SC 12 psi Stainless Works LT Headers, offroad Steeda Shocks and Struts Steeda Anti Sway bars and brackets Steeda LCA Power House Aluminum Drive Shaft & Torque limiter MGW Shifter Slotted brakes 13" F&R
moose this plan will work. all you have to do is one thing.
CALL WHIPPLE OR WHATEVER, AND GET THE DIMENSIONS ON THE INTERCOOLER, NOT THE FRONT MOUNT. THIS CAN BE DONE VERY CHEAPLY, GET THOSE DIMENSION, AND GET THE DENINSIONS OF THE WHIPPLE KITS OF THE LIGHNING VERSION AND COBRA, IM WILLING TO BET WHIPPLE DIDNT CHANGE THE SIZE, IF NOT YOU CAN FIND ONE CHEAP, AND YOUR NOW INTERCOOLED
I could be wrong, but I think even the NON IC whipple kit has you change the thermostat to a 160, not sure though. I could always wire the pump to come on with the cooling fan.
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ORIGINAL: blackhorse05
the blower shoyuld have a inlet and a outlet, it might have a block but nothing crazy, they sell the kits for upgrades, so i asume its ready to go. you dont need a crazy pump becase the travel isnt that far, a lightning pump would work, its prob the same pump in the cobra. the air hits the h/e while the pump circulates the coolant through the blower. it should work, i thought about it today as i was thinking about this thread.
2 ISSUES I HAVE. I KNOW THE SALEEN HAS A INTRCOOLER IN THE VALLEY UNDER THE S/C, I DONT KNOW ABOUT WHIPPLE, YOU NEED TO SEE WHAT THE I/C VERSION COMES WITH
THE SECOND IS YOU WILL HAVE TO WIRE THE PUMP TO TURN ON AS SOON AS YOU TURN THE KEY, THIS IS BECASE YOU WONT HAVE ALL THE COMPUTER CRAP WITH THE WHIPPLE TO RUN A THERMASTAT. SO IF THE PUMP ALWAYS RUNS, THE BETTER ANYWAY, NEXT IS CHANGE YOUR MOTOR THERMOSTATE, 170 OR SOMETHING. I THINK IT COULD WORK
Nope the pump works all the time and has nothing to do with the fans, the engine runs, then the pump runs, actually as soon as you turn the key to the "on" position the pump will start even if the engine didnt.
good, not all blowers wire the pump that way, some pumps are on its own thermostat
In that case the water pump should have it's own dedicated air charge temp sensor because the only function of the IC is to cool down the air charge to get lower temperatures at higher boost levels and avoid detonation, it is not related to coolant temperature. However at 6 psi the IC is not even needed and will not provide a significant HP increase. Then if you go beyond 6psi you will need to upgrade your fuel pump and add larger injectors, new tune etc and it is then when the IC becomes a necessity.
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2007 SIlver GT Whipple HO SC 12 psi Stainless Works LT Headers, offroad Steeda Shocks and Struts Steeda Anti Sway bars and brackets Steeda LCA Power House Aluminum Drive Shaft & Torque limiter MGW Shifter Slotted brakes 13" F&R
In that case the water pump should have it's own dedicated air charge temp sensor because the only function of the IC is to cool down the air charge to get lower temperatures at higher boost levels and avoid detonation, it is not related to coolant temperature. However at 6 psi the IC is not even needed and will not provide a significant HP increase. Then if you go beyond 6psi you will need to upgrade your fuel pump and add larger injectors, new tune etc and it is then when the IC becomes a necessity.
Well I'm going to run it with no intercooler at first, but for the price I could intercool it for all of $250 if I needed to. $90 pump, $90 cobra heat exchanger (used), $30 for a coolant tank of your choice and figure $40 for hose/clamps. If it even picked up 20 more hp it would be worth it for $250, sh!t I paid $500 for 20hp with my CAI/tuner. I could always add the better fluidyne heat exchanger for $250 brand new if I needed a larger unit.
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
Not to state the obvious.....But, there are three different locations in the "loop" for intercooler fluid (1) the actual intercooler (on a twinscrews...is under the compressor as hammer stated), (2) Intercooler reservior tank (beside the radiator, or <insert location>, etc...) and the (3) heat exchanger (under the radiator)
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we know that but thanks, i think all you ned is a standard whipple intercool under the blower, in the valley, so you can run the fluid, it would so work
we know that but thanks, i think all you ned is a standard whipple intercool under the blower, in the valley, so you can run the fluid, it would so work
I thought the intercooler was allready under the compressor. It's one big block of aluminum. So now i'm wondering if I want to intercool my non ic whipple do I have to buy something else and remove the blower from the aluminum manifold? You guys have me all confused, once I get the blower i'll know more.
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
I didn't realize there was an actual removable core under the compressor. I thought coolant just ran through passages in the actual aluminum intake manifold that the blower sits on. Shows what I know.
It seems YPS doesn't monitor their ebay auctions. My offer on the non IC kit will expire in 1 hour. I'm going to make a $5400 offer on the intercooled one they asking $5750 for. Now i'm wondering if I can put a 8lb pulley on that kit and still run the whipple tune.
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ORIGINAL: hammeron
moose, if you purchase a non-ic kit, it will not have that hunk of aluminum under the compressor.
if you decide to intercool at a later time, you will have to lift the compressor out (not a big deal) to mount the "core"
these are some of the reasons, i simply went HO to start with.....less work down the road......
* you may find tho, that after running the 6psi kit, you may be totally satisfied with the 400rwhp and that, will be that....
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
let's get down to brass tacks and let's stop beatin' round the bush, shall we
get the mf'n HO kit! black or polished, i don't care which
there i said it!
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
let's get down to brass tacks and let's stop beatin' round the bush, shall we
get the mf'n HO kit! black or polished, i don't care which
there i said it!
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
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