Anyone know a reliable source for the whipple kit at a $4300 price?
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
Yeah I saw that. That was a copy and paste from the email.
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ORIGINAL: s2k
LMAO they said "worth your wild" Stay far away that shows alot!
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
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Moosetang, I've not called these folk yet so I'm only forwarding you this on a rumor. I've heard several positive comments about http://www.yourperformancesource.com/ regarding Whipples. Just in case you hadnt heard of them. Keep me posted if you call.
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ORIGINAL: moosestang
Anyone know a reliable source for the whipple kit at a $4300 price?
I can't decide, i don't know how I ever decided on a CAI. I really like the whipple for the look/easy install, but I keep reading how I'm going to get all this detonation without an intercooler. The saleen install looks like a biotch compared to the whipple.
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ORIGINAL: aclass
Moosetang, I've not called these folk yet so I'm only forwarding you this on a rumor. I've heard several positive comments about http://www.yourperformancesource.com/ regarding Whipples. Just in case you hadnt heard of them. Keep me posted if you call.
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ORIGINAL: moosestang
Anyone know a reliable source for the whipple kit at a $4300 price?
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
I didn't read anything specific for the non intercooled whipple. I just read all the expert opinions in other threads that all say get an intercooler. I don't want the intercooler upgrade kit either because it comes with all the things to make more power which I don't want.
I've read the instructions for all these kits and the whipple non intercooled is hands down the easiest to install, mostly because theirs no intercooler.
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ORIGINAL: MustangGT0405
Where did you hear about detonation with the whipple? They wouldnt be selling them and ford wouldnt be warrantying them if they were bad.
I was so sure before but now I am wondering if it will be enough power. I am going to start a spin off thread.
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
You need the intercooler above 6 or 8 psi. this is because the air gets hotter as you increase the boost thus the need for an intercooler to keep air charge temps under control and avoid detonation, but at 5 or 6 PSI the intercooler is not needed, what is more, it is useless.
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2007 SIlver GT Whipple HO SC 12 psi Stainless Works LT Headers, offroad Steeda Shocks and Struts Steeda Anti Sway bars and brackets Steeda LCA Power House Aluminum Drive Shaft & Torque limiter MGW Shifter Slotted brakes 13" F&R
I read somewhere that the air charge at 6psi-non intercooled is the same temp as the air charge at 12psi-intercooled. Not sure how true that is, but it would agree with your useless opinion.
I decided to do some google research to see if the experts on this forum are right or just fed a bunch of bull. I've come up with some interesting reading. Here's one such article saying you need 10psi of boost to justify the cost and hassle of an intercooler.
Frankly if whipple (the undisputed experts) are selling it without the intercooler then you don't need one for that kit.
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You need the intercooler above 6 or 8 psi. this is because the air gets hotter as you increase the boost thus the need for an intercooler to keep air charge temps under control and avoid detonation, but at 5 or 6 PSI the intercooler is not needed, what is more, it is useless.
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
the fact of the matter is being intercooled depends more on how you drive, and where your located. unfortunately your in florida. so with our summer temps you wlill need a intercooler, no matter what boost your on. i know many will disagree but trust me i know. what will happen if you dont go intercooled is your motor will get hot, and your i.e.t( intake enlet temp ) will go through the roof, and most likely in the tune, when it gets so hot, your computer will start retarding your timing. so lets say you make 400rwhp non intercooled at 18degrees. when it get hot youll pob loose 4 to 5 degrees easily, on our motor your looking at 20 to 25 h.p easy per degree of timing, so your 400hp car will now be a low 300 hp car, all because of the intake inlet tube. the reason this will happen is because the hotter your motor gets, more likley you will detonate, and the motor goes bye bye. so that but dyno will feel awesome, until you get the motor super hot, thenyoull be like this sucks. also long trips u have to think about, dont do a lot of track runs at one time, and so on. . i make 452 on 7 to 8 psi. im having to relocate all my intercooler crap to the trunk tomorrow because this floida heat is horrible right now, im loosing so much timing is insain. i also have 4.10 gears, and twin screw and 4.10s r absolutley amazing, however i have a complete suspension, so i pt the power to the ground, etier way this car is amazing with the gears.
You are relocating your intercooler to the trunk? did I read that right?
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the fact of the matter is being intercooled depends more on how you drive, and where your located. unfortunately your in florida. so with our summer temps you wlill need a intercooler, no matter what boost your on. i know many will disagree but trust me i know. what will happen if you dont go intercooled is your motor will get hot, and your i.e.t( intake enlet temp ) will go through the roof, and most likely in the tune, when it gets so hot, your computer will start retarding your timing. so lets say you make 400rwhp non intercooled at 18degrees. when it get hot youll pob loose 4 to 5 degrees easily, on our motor your looking at 20 to 25 h.p easy per degree of timing, so your 400hp car will now be a low 300 hp car, all because of the intake inlet tube. the reason this will happen is because the hotter your motor gets, more likley you will detonate, and the motor goes bye bye. so that but dyno will feel awesome, until you get the motor super hot, thenyoull be like this sucks. also long trips u have to think about, dont do a lot of track runs at one time, and so on. . i make 452 on 7 to 8 psi. im having to relocate all my intercooler crap to the trunk tomorrow because this floida heat is horrible right now, im loosing so much timing is insain. i also have 4.10 gears, and twin screw and 4.10s r absolutley amazing, however i have a complete suspension, so i pt the power to the ground, etier way this car is amazing with the gears.
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
I just got back from Brenspeed today (got my 07 GT/CS dyno tuned). He gave me a test ride in their Saleen supercharger. The car is an Auto and Brent told me they had a conserved tune in it because they use it everyday to go 80 miles. Well it ran just like mine until he pushed the go pedal hard, it broke the tires loose in every gear and sounded like a beast. I would love to get a Saleen but I'm probably going to go with the Vortech kit. About 1200 to 1400 cheaper and the Vortech has all the power I want. I hope to get a ride in Tom281's Vortech power 06 this weekend. Also Brent said it's 200 less if you have a x-cal tuner already. I'll probably install it myself this winter or next.
im moving all coolant fluids to the trunk, running the tubes through the trunk, under the car, and then to the actuall intercooler, however if you moved your motor coolant to the back, and maybe got some sort of functional hood, you might be able to run the non intercooled s/c with no temp probs, however the cost of that and painting wouldnt be worth it, but moving the fluds to the trunk is a good way to keep temps down due to the fact that the fluids can remain cooler. that is not a pricey project, if you ever come up to jacksonville, you should come by the shop.
keep in mind moose, its florida summers that will hurt your motor non intercooled, youll be fine in winter, but youll most likely feel like you wasted your money more than half a year due to horrible temps, it kills timing big time
I was wondering if it would worth buying the HO kit and putting the new 7lb pulley they have for the new automatic kit whipple sells for people like us who dont want to push it? They dont sell it for the manual trans cars like me but I was planning on having it dyno tuned anyway.
I like the idea of the intercooler but not the increased cost and complexity of install.
Just a question, I know alot of people run the vortech non intercooled at 8 lbs of boost here in florida. Havent heard of them having a problems.
I should probably just go for the HO kit, they say it is fine for the manual trans and I havent read anyone saying my HO S/C blew my engine/trans/rear end etc. Maybe I will just have VMP tune it a little rich to be safe, like 11 to1 and just be happy.
Hammeron: How much more difficult would you say it is to install the HO kit compared to the non-intercooled kit?
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How much will this actually help though? I could see if you had the trunk closed off and had air ducts going to it, but my trunk gets plenty hot as it sits now.
Are we talking about putting the actual heat exchanger in the trunk or just the coolant tanks?
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whipple HO SC,FRPP springs, Pypes mid mufflers, Che adj. LCA, hurst, 4.10's, 1 piece DS, spec stg 2 clutch. Accel coils 12.52@117.6mph so far with a 2.01 60 ft time(pre shaft, coils, clutch).
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RE: Question for those with vortech SC? - 
opinions in other threads that all say get an intercooler. I don't want the intercooler upgrade kit either because it comes with all the things to make more power which I don't want. 
