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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 12:10:24 AM
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laserred38
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Sorry I meant 2channel amps. And also sorry to rain on your parade, but those are LOW-end subs. If you read back up, I said I actually like some of JBL's stuff, from what I have heard. You could have accomplished "what you want" with one 12 or 13" sub that probably cost less than the two you purchased, all while taking up less space in your trunk and having better sound quality. That is all I'm saying. And you are very much-so, a beginner in the whole Car Audio world. So calling me out does not make you any smarter. But if you are happy with what you bought (for now, try 'em out for a year and see how you feel about it then) then good for you.
And you bought a 4channel amp to power your subs?
You should have gotten this amp: JBL Mono sub amp if you were set on using those subs.
And you should have gotten the 75.2 for your component speakers.
BTW, THIS is a "top-of-the-line" JBL sub: W10GTi
Now I'm not sure how you are happy with what you bought already, because I took the time to research all of that equipment, and you are all over the place as fas as matching up your amps to your components and what-not.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 12:16:43 AM
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laserred38
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I really can't comment now on JBL car speakers though. I have heard their home audio, and been very impressed for the money (even comparing to Bang and Oluffsen and Nakamichi stuff). However, they use Titanium tweeters, which tend to be on the harsher side, but it is all in the fine tuning which makes a difference, so who knows, they might sound good. If this is your first system, pretty much EVERYthing sounds better than stock so there is no comparison. After you live with YOUR system for a while and pick out all the flaws, and listen to other, higher-end stuff, you will begin to appreciate our advice and see that NO, you DON'T own the best stuff and you will want more (just as I find myself now...).
No need to take offense to any of this, we are trying to help you out and prevent you from making bad purchases.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 12:55:03 AM
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IMO JBL pro-audio is aweome. Car audio is allright.
Anyway, what your happy with is most important, check out wooferesetc.com and find a pair of CDT's in your budget, pair those up with your subs and amp and you'll be all set.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 1:06:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: laserred38
Sorry I meant 2channel amps. And also sorry to rain on your parade, but those are LOW-end subs. If you read back up, I said I actually like some of JBL's stuff, from what I have heard. You could have accomplished "what you want" with one 12 or 13" sub that probably cost less than the two you purchased, all while taking up less space in your trunk and having better sound quality. That is all I'm saying. And you are very much-so, a beginner in the whole Car Audio world. So calling me out does not make you any smarter. But if you are happy with what you bought (for now, try 'em out for a year and see how you feel about it then) then good for you.
And you bought a 4channel amp to power your subs?
You should have gotten this amp: JBL Mono sub amp if you were set on using those subs.
And you should have gotten the 75.2 for your component speakers.
BTW, THIS is a "top-of-the-line" JBL sub: W10GTi
Now I'm not sure how you are happy with what you bought already, because I took the time to research all of that equipment, and you are all over the place as fas as matching up your amps to your components and what-not.
Bad post man, relax a little, we need to keep the good guys around, post the smack to the camaro guys. Everyone is learning, think of a few smonths back when you were in this stage...... Yeah! you know  , keep it polite and helpful and we will get less and less spoon fed people around, it used to be just me and Hisss around here, then P showed up, then ttocs (althgouh there has been a couple differences with him) came about the A/V forum is really coming together now, and I love it.
I hold myself back just as much as P does, I know some equipment is not up to par with some of us, but if someone has made it clear they are happy with it, or they are stuck with it for the time being, we need to let them enjoy and appriciate it. Once they get a piece of great equipment paired up with the big name pieces they have, they will be back for more and we will ge them then.
What we have told you thusfar on your front stage.. Your all set my friend. Let us know if you have any further questions.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 7:44:19 AM
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ORIGINAL: laserred38
Sorry I meant 2channel amps. And also sorry to rain on your parade, but those are LOW-end subs. If you read back up, I said I actually like some of JBL's stuff, from what I have heard. You could have accomplished "what you want" with one 12 or 13" sub that probably cost less than the two you purchased, all while taking up less space in your trunk and having better sound quality. That is all I'm saying. And you are very much-so, a beginner in the whole Car Audio world. So calling me out does not make you any smarter. But if you are happy with what you bought (for now, try 'em out for a year and see how you feel about it then) then good for you.
I got the pair for $93 bucks plus taxes and shipping. So, like maybe $107? I think it's pretty good for the price. And I didn't really take offence to it. I mean, what you guys say is right. But, I'm not aiming for a competition sound system. It's my first car, and my first sound system. I'm still in school, so the loudest system around isn't exactly a smart idea. Car might get broken into =\ But, regardless. I appreciate any/all the help.
I bought the 4-channel amp 'cause, well to be quite honest it looked cool, and the only other amp that would've worked would've been a 600-watt 2-channel, but that was like $70 dollars more than the one I bought.
And, my only question now is, should I get a Component System then a little profile amp to power it?
And I have another noob question, when pickin' an amp for the Component System, do I go by the Recommended RMSx2< ?
For instance 90w Reccomended, 90Wx2=180W, would I look at the amps for one that has a RMS within like 20 of that range?
Sorry, I'm a noob. :x
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 8:32:08 AM
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Scott,
You have no reason to apologize for being a newb. We were all newbs at one time and had to ask questions just like you to learn. You are doing better then most becuase you are actually asking questions and wanting to learn. You are also asking people that aren't trying to sell you something, so we are more honest then your local sales person.
If you have 350 to spend on the front stage I would buy this.
Speakers: http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3341 $200
Amp: http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/4348 $75
Any additional wiring: $50
That puts you at $325 and will sound great. Hifonics is a better amp then profile, but profile is really hard to beat for the money.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 8:42:06 AM
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ScottXL
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ORIGINAL: PReal
Scott,
You have no reason to apologize for being a newb. We were all newbs at one time and had to ask questions just like you to learn. You are doing better then most becuase you are actually asking questions and wanting to learn. You are also asking people that aren't trying to sell you something, so we are more honest then your local sales person.
If you have 350 to spend on the front stage I would buy this.
Speakers: http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3341 $200
Amp: http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/4348 $75
Any additional wiring: $50
That puts you at $325 and will sound great. Hifonics is a better amp then profile, but profile is really hard to beat for the money.
Thanks, PReal. The first link didn't go to anything, though.
Should I just choose a component system around $200 bucks? Or is the one you linked [or tried] one you like?
EDIT:: Haha, the link came up now. I think I'm gunna get that set-up. It looks pretty good. :D
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 12:22:16 PM
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PReal
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I'm running 300 watts rms to each channel and I am basically running those comps.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/2/2007 2:32:24 PM
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laserred38
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How was that a bad post? I told him that it was good that he was happy, and that a 4 channel amp would be better suited to his front stage, rather than a pair of subs. There was some other stuff too, but I thought I was pretty restrained considering what I could have said...I tried to correct him in the most polite way possible. Just to let him know there is other stuff out there. And I agree on the home audio JBL stuff. It is awesome. Their Car stuff is ok...decent enough for a first system though.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/3/2007 2:17:00 PM
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Yes it is correct. I have been very careful with my gains, but I am running a diamond audio D5 600.4 bridged to the front speakers.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/4/2007 12:55:58 AM
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It's all about how you set things, theres a way to set things by how you think and there is a way to set gains with numbers and experience. Use the second route to avoid blowing up some new speakers....
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/4/2007 9:04:36 AM
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I don't get it. How can you run that much more power than they are rated? Do you not play them loud?
There is a beautiful thing called headroom. My amp is not run anywhere near capacity. I can play the speakers as loud as I want and never get a peep of audible distortion. It is always better to have too much power, but as yoda said, with power comes responsibility.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/4/2007 11:23:57 AM
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so the ratings of speakers are mere guidelines but not actually necessary?
Exactly.
Manufacturers give those ratings for one reason, 95% of their customer dont have the experience and knowledge needed to run say double the amount of power and do it responsibly and correctly.
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RE: YAY! New sound system! - 8/4/2007 12:11:11 PM
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so the ratings of speakers are mere guidelines but not actually necessary?
Exactly.
Manufacturers give those ratings for one reason, 95% of their customer dont have the experience and knowledge needed to run say double the amount of power and do it responsibly and correctly.
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Ask anyone knowledgeable about car audio and they will tell you there is nothing wrong with running too much power.
It just has to be done correctly.
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