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'07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 4:43:18 PM   
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stock v6 manual mustang got outrun by a v6 camry... from a stop as well as from 40 to ~80mph(2nd gear all the way), tried with a buddy a few times but to no avail, the '07 268hp/6spd automatic camry kicks @ss with a good margin :-((
ford needs to put its new 3.5L DOHC in the next v6 mustang and keep the price the same!
no intent to start any flames here, just bare facts...
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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 4:51:29 PM   
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don't forget its bang for buck. how much does that camry sell for compared to the v6 stang? for the price of the camry, it should be compared to the GT in performance. your story doesn't bother me at all. this is what bothers me.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI9UPETlXPo ......what is that little green booger packing under the hood?...or was the driver of the stang high on dope when driving to lose? whats going on!?


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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 5:01:48 PM   
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well according to a few sources that camry runs 15+ 1/4's and a 6.7 0-60.. so by my minnesota math calculations you just suck at driving and it should have been very close

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 5:03:30 PM   
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well... the way that camry was blowing by, I think a GT might be in trouble too...or very close.
I mean, getting it up to speed in 2nd gear @4000rpm and then flooring it all the way on a honk signal is about as good as it gets, not much room for better driver skills/etc. at that point.
maybe it's the 6speed transmission with better gear ratios or something?

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 5:05:07 PM   
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yeah the cobra better watch out too right

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 5:19:13 PM   
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First off flooring it in second gear at 40 mph in a manual V6 Mustang will only get you to about 65 mph at 6000 rpms. Maybe it was a type when you typed 40- 80 mph. Maybe you ment 40 - 60 mph or maybe you meant in 3rd gear and not 2nd. If in fact you did mean 80 mph in 2nd or even 40 - 80 in 34d then that could be why you got beat. The 4.0L's power maxes out at 5250 rpms with the redline at around 5800 rpms. After that the power drops off considerable so even if your car could rev to the 7500 rpms necessary to reach 80 mph in 2nd it would take you a considerable amount of time, assuming you didn't blow your engine up. Now if you meant 3rd gear all the way, stock the manual V6 is only at 2400 rpms at 40 mph and the peak torque doesn't kick in for another 1000 rpms so until you reach about 60 mph in 3rd you won't be accellerating that quickly. So the simple answer is part of the problem with these cars is that they don't rev very high and it could use better gearing. That's one thing I can say about Japanese cars, their transmissions are geared to take better advantage of the engines power curve than american cars, imoo.

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 5:20:33 PM   
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again, I LIKE THE MUSTANG and I am not into any "macho musclecar vs. boring sedan" or "american vs. japanese" B.S. flames - but here is C&D test results for whatever it's worth:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/12404/2007-toyota-camry-v-6.html
2007 Toyota Camry V-6
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 31.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph

that's disturbingly slose to GT stock figures.

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 5:31:52 PM   
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Check out the specs on the different models of the Camery;

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?year=2007&make=Toyota&model=Camry&trimid=-1

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 5:43:10 PM   
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2nd - 40mph at~3500+rpm --> floor to ~5500rpm (60mph or so), then quickshift into 3rd for 60 to 80mph run.
is there a better way?

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 7:33:23 PM   
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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 7:44:25 PM   
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quote:

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again, I LIKE THE MUSTANG and I am not into any "macho musclecar vs. boring sedan" or "american vs. japanese" B.S. flames - but here is C&D test results for whatever it's worth:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/12404/2007-toyota-camry-v-6.html
2007 Toyota Camry V-6
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 31.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph

that's disturbingly slose to GT stock figures.


What? How is a 14.3 1/4 mile close to a 13.5-13.7???????  A V-6 runs 14.7-15.0, so it's actually closer to the 6er than a GT. I guess a new Camry can outrun a 350Z too, huh?
I think a 14.3 is Toyota's ringer to all the magazines, high 14s to low 15s is a better figure in real life driving.
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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 8:02:26 PM   
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Rember the other car probabaly had a gearing advantage both in the trans and the axel ratio. How about a dig to 100? What are your mods? If none how about a C&L w/tune and 3.73's  & T-Lok. that should change the outcome

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 8:14:08 PM   
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Wha'd you expect? The Camry weighs about the same, and pushes 50 more HP. IMO, The v6 needs to be pushin at least 260, with the GT between 350-400

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 8:38:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver

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ORIGINAL: tlpvt

again, I LIKE THE MUSTANG and I am not into any "macho musclecar vs. boring sedan" or "american vs. japanese" B.S. flames - but here is C&D test results for whatever it's worth:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/12404/2007-toyota-camry-v-6.html
2007 Toyota Camry V-6
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 31.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph

that's disturbingly slose to GT stock figures.


What? How is a 14.3 1/4 mile close to a 13.5-13.7???????  A V-6 runs 14.7-15.0, so it's actually closer to the 6er than a GT. I guess a new Camry can outrun a 350Z too, huh?
I think a 14.3 is Toyota's ringer to all the magazines, high 14s to low 15s is a better figure in real life driving.
Learn the power band of your car, then get back to us


Its a 0.8 second difference, that sounds very close to me.

350z? says it has a 14.2 second quarter mile......thats faster then a GT? http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0506_compact_sport_convertibles_comparison/specs_price.html

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 8:50:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver

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ORIGINAL: tlpvt

again, I LIKE THE MUSTANG and I am not into any "macho musclecar vs. boring sedan" or "american vs. japanese" B.S. flames - but here is C&D test results for whatever it's worth:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/12404/2007-toyota-camry-v-6.html
2007 Toyota Camry V-6
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 31.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph

that's disturbingly slose to GT stock figures.


What? How is a 14.3 1/4 mile close to a 13.5-13.7???????  A V-6 runs 14.7-15.0, so it's actually closer to the 6er than a GT. I guess a new Camry can outrun a 350Z too, huh?
I think a 14.3 is Toyota's ringer to all the magazines, high 14s to low 15s is a better figure in real life driving.
Learn the power band of your car, then get back to us


Its a 0.8 second difference, that sounds very close to me.

350z? says it has a 14.2 second quarter mile......thats faster then a GT? http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0506_compact_sport_convertibles_comparison/specs_price.html

Obviously you haven't been to the track, 0.8 seconds is about 7-8 car lengths........................

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 9:27:00 PM   
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.8 seconds is a big difference, even bigger if you take into account the aftermarket of the two cars. The Mustang V6 or V8 are sweet off the lot and have plenty of potential, on the other hand Camry is pretty much stuck at that level of performance.

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 9:31:14 PM   
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I could care less what the magazine says. At my track one of the regulars at the braket class is a 07 camry v6 auto. Car runs 15.1 all day long, wont even crack 14 ..i run 14.5-14.6 with my auto v6 .

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 9:52:34 PM   
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ummmm 80 in second gear?  good luck with that.  Close this thread it smeels like my dog's asshole.


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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 10:14:56 PM   
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Close this thread it smeels like my dog's asshole.



I'm not even going to coment.

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RE: '07 v6 mustang(5sp) vs. '07 camry :-(( - 7/25/2007 10:57:34 PM   
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all that has to  be said.
mustang= awesome
camery- toyota, enough said.

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