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Lol your gonna make me take a long walk off a short cliff... Well you know what.. fine.. Ill just call her tell her some reason why i cant get it.. wait until im 18 find an edge or other GT or even a 4th gen fbody.. something more reliable i suppose... This is gonna be hard to explain to everyone who i told i was gonna get one... I had everything planned out.. I know if my friend can drive a 79 then i should have no problem with a 77, and his is in worse condition than the 77... more miles and more mods.. plus he makes the same amount of money as i do... but oh well.. back to the cutting block again.. Ill have to settle for a EFI engine and do small mods kuz i cant afford all the electrical ones.
All you have to do is say you thought it over and you've decided that it wouldn't be an economical decision in the long run, nuff said right there. Now, quit looking at anything older than a 90, and that's even pushing it, and find something newer. Newer doesn't always mean better, but it does have a lot of benifits. Personally I'd try to get your mom and dad to help you buy a brand new car when you graduate, and just get something, semi new for the time being to hold you over for this year.
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Now I kinda feel bad for ruining his Bumblebee hopes and dreams ...
Really Stallion, me and JT aren't trying to bust your balls, and we're not teaming up on you just because we hang out and know each other personally, we're trying to help you out from an economical standpoint. I honestly am considering a Hybrid Honda Civic in my future for gas price reasons. As much as it sucks, it's a very economical decision. I'm not saying you have to or should, just what I'm planning.
yeah 02, i knew you guys were, some of the other guys were just throwin punches for fun tho.. that set me off.. sorry i snapped at you.. im looking at at edges and 4th gen camaro/firebirds now.
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yeah 02, i knew you guys were, some of the other guys were just throwin punches for fun tho.. that set me off.. sorry i snapped at you.. im looking at at edges and 4th gen camaro/firebirds now.
Do what your budget allows. You don't have to be pinned to Mustangs / Camaro's / Firebirds ... There are plenty of good cars out there. Don't ask some people on this forum because they'll say go Mustang, don't ask the people on the Camaro forums because they'll say go Camaro ... Do what you think is right for you. Take on the project when you have more money. Don't worry about the kids with mommy and daddy's V8's, they'll get theirs when they are released into the world and fall face first to the ground. You'll have experience in your finances, and eventually a much nicer car I'm sure. Just play it smart bro.
I honestly am considering a Hybrid Honda Civic in my future for gas price reasons. As much as it sucks, it's a very economical decision.
why? civics are lame enough but then you make it a hybrid and your "FABULOUS!"
get a crotch rocket faster than most cars youll get like 60ish mpg if you drive like a normal person but if you haul ass and speed everywhere 45mpg you cant beat that and you wont be gay
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I honestly am considering a Hybrid Honda Civic in my future for gas price reasons. As much as it sucks, it's a very economical decision.
why? civics are lame enough but then you make it a hybrid and your "FABULOUS!"
get a crotch rocket faster than most cars youll get like 60ish mpg if you drive like a normal person but if you haul ass and speed everywhere 45mpg you cant beat that and you wont be gay
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old enough to know that hybrids are gay...
why because people want to save on gas, or help the environment, or both. it will be awesome when you grow up and have real expenses, like house, utilities, car, insurance, and all the other things that go with being an adult. a hybrid is a responsible decision and i think it's cool to hear people on a mustang forum talking about getting one. I am considering one myself, or at least trading down to a 5-speed four banger that gets 40 mpg on the highway.
02Stang a civic hybrid is a good choice. or most any other hybrid for that matter.
Jthorn, I am glad that you have beaten me to typing about all the things that go wrong with all cars, that is exactly 100% correct, I dd a 66 mustang and I know all about how the car runs good when you pick it up, but stuff breaks all the time. Like for example this car needed
and many many other electrical, body, and mechanical things over the 2 years I drove it. now the motor, transmission, and rear end never had a problem, they were beautiful, but hell everything else i think broke at some point. what really sucked is that the heater never completely turned off, try driving in the summer w/o a/c and bit of warm air wafting over your legs, which are pushing as hard as you can to stop with hydraulic brakes.
Why the hell would you waste your money on a hybrid toyota when you could buy a VW diesel(jetta..golf) and get just as good mpg and diesel is cheaper, majority of the time. Not to mention alot more car. Plus you dont have to admit that you own a toyota
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i mean a crotch rocket can be a responsible decision theyre very affordable- you can go and buy a brand new kawasaki ninja 250 for $3000 70 mpg and its a blast to ride i mean theyre better alternatives that those goofy lookin hybrids and then theres the hybrids smug emmisions
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Why the hell would you waste your money on a hybrid toyota when you could buy a VW diesel(jetta..golf) and get just as good mpg and diesel is cheaper, majority of the time. Not to mention alot more car. Plus you dont have to admit that you own a toyota
i actually would like an american manufacturer to produce a small car with a diesel, and I don't want a toyota. i want an american car, and would only purchase such, my comments were in response to the poster who said "old enough to know hybrids are gay". I have no problem with hybrids or people who drive them, i still maintain it is a responsible decision. and in response to him again, a bike doesn't carry people or luggage like a car does, they are not comparable. also the article you posted is from 2004, gas prices have risen significantly since then, making hybrids all the more attractive.
I came in with some high expectations that fell pretty short — about 10-20 miles per gallon short. Every chance I could, I’d look at the display screen that tracks mileage, pleased when it showed 70 mpg or no gasoline being used at all because it was running solely off the battery. But over the entire 200 miles I drove the car, the average picture was not as pleasant and I never got close to the 51 mpg highway and 60 mpg city certified by the Environmental Protection Agency. Frustrated, I sought answers from Toyota and its Prius guru, Dave Hermance. As soon as I said that my commute and other city driving were short trips, Hermance interrupted. “That’s it right there, that’s the problem,” he said, explaining that mileage suffers during the first five minutes of a cold start because of the way the Prius and similar low-polluting cars curb emissions. That would also explain that while my combined city/highway mileage was 42 mpg, I got just 31 mpg on my five-mile commute to work. The mystery solved, I still felt some disappointment that I’d never see 60 mpg with my short commutes. Instead, as Hermance noted, “it’s an ideal car for folks who put on a lot of miles.”
ya know.. my moms toyota camry gets about the same gas mileage, it doesnt look goofy and it costs less!
just get an escape hybrid, theyre not as gay as a prius or a honda
*edit* heres some more goodies for all the prius owners out there
Battery replacement. Toyota warranties the battery powering the electric motor for eight years or 100,000 miles. Replacing that today would cost $3,500 but Toyota hopes the price will come down to $1,000. It also notes that the battery pack has been tested to 150,000 miles without degradation. Display screen visibility. While it’s not required to operate the car, the display screen that shows mileage performance and radio/temperature controls can be very difficult to see in bright sun. Traffic visibility. The front window frame is at more of an angle than some cars, creating a wider bar that can obstruct views. The rear window has a bar three-quarters of the way down, which also takes some getting used to. Backseat vent. It’s not immediately noticeable, but a venton the backseat door frame plays an important role cooling the battery pack tucked under the luggage area. In fact, Toyota warns not to cover that vent because that could case the battery to overheat.
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the only way a hybrid, or any car can get it's EPA ratings is in optimal driving conditions. like ~55mph on a flat road highway drive. then sure, you can get 50+mpg. you can also get the crazy estimated city miles too if it's crazy stop and go, like if you lived in DC, NY, LA or NoVA. but who the hell spends 60 miles in extreme stop & go conditions even in those areas.
there's hundred of articles supporting the stuff you just spouted, but there's also hundreds opposing it.
saying a car is "gay" because it's a hybrid is a childish thing to say anyway. i guess the 14 second, 255HP accord hybrid is gay too, even though it could hand you your ass.
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again this is an article from 2004. the issues that you speak of have been addressed by toyota, and there are plenty of people who without driving aggressively get the epa rating or exceed it. hate on the prius for being a toyota, a japanese car, whatever but don't hate on it for gas mileage or practicality at 3+ dollars a gallon.
"saying a car is "gay" because it's a hybrid is a childish thing to say anyway. i guess the 14 second, 255HP accord hybrid is gay too, even though it could hand you your ass."
ya know everyone keeps saying that! i have a 13 year old car, it doesnt take much to beat it but i doubt its getting good gas mileage doing a 1/4 mile in 14 seconds
i dunno, id rather get a regular 4 cyl than a hybrid my friends eclipse get 250-300 miles on a tank of gas (which is good considering he hauls ass) IMHO itd be better to stick with 4 bangers that get good gas mileage rather than running out to get a hybrid
Listen to someone who has a 305 camaro and a V6 mustang, its not even close, my mustang DESTROYS the camaro, not even close. Obviously the camaro sounds badass w/ headers and flows, but its hard to hear a car's exhaust when you are 3 lengths in front of it........ i like the fox idea.........
Ooook sooo... 1st of all.. crotch rocket is by far the worst idea of them all, id trust a old camaro over a motorcycle anyday... id rather have the car break down then have me fall off and die... I drove a hybrid for about two weeks when a family friend needed someone to run errands for him while he was in europe... Thing may have sounded weak, but it handeled and run beautifully... had alot of horse too. It was a mercury mariner and it wasnt that bad. As far as the Fox if i can find a notchback i will get it because i like em. Im not a fan of the hatches or mid to early mustangs. I saw a 90 notch with a 373 stroker or something and it was beautiful. Now id really like to get a 4th gen Z28. But i wouldnt mind getting a edge GT and if it comes down to it a sn95 gt would be fine as well.
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Spoke, what part of a crotch rocket is an economical decision? Yes, it would get solid gas mileage, but what happens when I have to tote around 3 or more people? What happens when I have luggage that I need to put somewhere? I don't understand how that would be a smart move at all. Honestly, I don't know what's wrong with the Civic hybrid ... http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-hybrid/ I think it looks good (other than those rims / caps, whatever they are), and it gets good gas mileage (51 mpg) for a good price ($22,600). That my friend, is a smart decision for someone leaving college being on his own. Buying a big V8 that eats gas like I eat Hooters hot wings is NOT a smart decision. The V8 can come in a few years after the Hybrid has done its work, and even then I'd probably keep it. Again, that Hybrid looks exactly like a regular Civic, and comes with all the goodies such as navigation. I'll take my Hybrid, you take your V6. We'll race, and we'll fill up the tank and see who gets more miles out of their car. Deal?
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