If your name was "Saleen"...
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If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 6:18:06 AM
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MikeRokkit
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Aside from the several aftermarket upgrades to the engine and the suspension, I'm curious what you'd with the Saleen if you could take ideas to their design group? I love this car and the stock finish is outstanding. What would you change/add/take away from the stock config?
Mike
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 7:21:23 AM
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Red_Devil
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My name isnt Saleen... But....
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ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
Side skirt fitment - I've brought this up, I'm doing a report on it to have it retooled. I'm late with the report. But! If you want to help me, send me pictures of your side skirts as well as your comments on how you feel about them to Jchavez@Saleen.com
Trunk lid fitment
Improved stereo - Not really our cup of tea right now, but we are starting to do some stuff, we are offering an iPod hookup through aftermarket now.
Less reliance on double-sticky and more on actual bolts/pins - Double sided tape is less evil than everyone makes it out to be. You cant use bolts and screws on everything (the top of the sideskirts as an example, or the black out covers on the lights)
IXNAY on the IFTSHAY OBKNAY -- the metal one was discontinued after 05 I'm told, but I'm still dealing with it - I can sell you an 06 shift knob if you want one. We do have them available for a reasonable price.
Mesh on front lower bumper, in front of radiator (discussed in another thread started by NCPonyGirl) - I dont think we have any plans on adding these to the S-series cars. It reduces the flow of air to the heat exchanger. We arent the only company that does this. Look at the Lancer Evolutions for instance, they dont use screens in front of their coolers either. As much as people are afraid of something happening to their heat exchanger I maybe get orders for them once every two months due to a rock or something hitting them. 99% of the time they are ordered is because the car was in a front end collision.
The PJ Watts Link is getting solid props from those who own them -- I've heard they're making this stock for 08 (rumor?) - No, it wont. It is not even available as an option that I know of. Watts-Link will probably remain strictly an aftermarket upgrade, but you can arrange to have it installed before it arrives to the dealership.
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Saleen Series IV S/C, Saleen 2.875 Pulley, 05 Fuel Pump, Saleen 14" Brake Kit, JDM Air Kit, JDM 90mm MAS Air, 42 lb Injectors, Optima Red Top, Custom JDM Tune
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 7:29:28 AM
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06Saleen3V
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ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
Great question Mike! (you're in Austin, but are you on a clandestine mission in Saleen's employ?) 
I LOVE my car, but a few niggling things that have caused me to say "gee, it would be even better if:"
Side skirt fitment
Trunk lid fitment
Improved stereo
Less reliance on double-sticky and more on actual bolts/pins
IXNAY on the IFTSHAY OBKNAY -- the metal one was discontinued after 05 I'm told, but I'm still dealing with it
Mesh on front lower bumper, in front of radiator (discussed in another thread started by NCPonyGirl)
The PJ Watts Link is getting solid props from those who own them -- I've heard they're making this stock for 08 (rumor?)
All of that said, the #1 improvement I'd dream of is not specific to the car, but to improving the quality of dealer cooperation/knowledge
All of this based on an 05 of course. Others may have more to add...
I do think a lot of Amy's "problems/complaints/suggestions" are strictly 05' things. My stereo is awesome (Shaker 500), it gets compliments all the time from my buddies that hear it. The shifter on my car is fine, then again it is aftermarket but my brother had an 07' GT and I drove that and it felt good to me (don't know if it works the same as Saleens). As far as the sideskirts, one of mine is coming loose  so I need to get the taken care of. Something I will add is the hood fitment. I don't know the exact name of the thing it scratches the top of when closed, but it is on top of those pieces between the grill and headlights.
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 8:25:25 AM
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mills281e
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I would work on fabricating lighter components for Saleens to bring the overall weight down. As heavy as Mustangs are now, they are getting to the point where they need obscene amounts of horsepower to stay competitive.
Likewise, this would enhance its overall uniqueness......for the "what's so different about a Saleen conversation?" The reply could then include motor, suspension, interior and...oh by the way, they weigh 300 pounds less than a GT  .
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 8:35:54 AM
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MikeRokkit
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ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
Great question Mike! (you're in Austin, but are you on a clandestine mission in Saleen's employ?)
Ha, Amy. Not so clandestine as maybe an online focus group meeting, huh?
Some of my aftermarket mod plans (besides a few engine tweaks) would be to change the side mirror matte finish and get an upgraded radio (branded). If I could make some changes to the standard equipped machine, I'd make the HID standard and do some soundproofing for the interior.
I really enjoy the car and respect the marque. Good stuff!
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 10:13:27 AM
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06Saleen3V
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ORIGINAL: mills281e
I would work on fabricating lighter components for Saleens to bring the overall weight down. As heavy as Mustangs are now, they are getting to the point where they need obscene amounts of horsepower to stay competitive.
Likewise, this would enhance its overall uniqueness......for the "what's so different about a Saleen conversation?" The reply could then include motor, suspension, interior and...oh by the way, they weigh 300 pounds less than a GT .
+1,000,000!! That is the best idea to date Mills!!
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 12:27:32 PM
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AmyVCTexas
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ORIGINAL: 06Saleen3V
My stereo is awesome (Shaker 500), it gets compliments all the time from my buddies that hear it.
Mickey: have you/your buddies lost your mind, or just your hearing? I have the Shaker 500 and it the poorest excuse for a stock sound system I've had since my 65 Mustang. Not only is the sound mediocre, but the thing skips like a flat rock in a Montana stream.  To each his/her own, however: no harm done. If you're happy with it, YAY because it'll save you some upgrade money down the road.
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ORIGINAL: MikeRokkit
Ha, Amy. Not so clandestine as maybe an online focus group meeting, huh?
Some of my aftermarket mod plans (besides a few engine tweaks) would be to change the side mirror matte finish and get an upgraded radio (branded). If I could make some changes to the standard equipped machine, I'd make the HID standard and do some soundproofing for the interior.
I really enjoy the car and respect the marque. Good stuff!
Mike: I'm with you on the side view mirrors! Good one! However I wouldn't want HID's so am glad they're an option. And tho it will sound totally contrary to my above whining about the Shaker 500, I also wouldn't want to soundproof the interior. I like to hear Georgia purr/roar depending on the conditions. 
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 12:32:21 PM
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06Saleen3V
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Haha Amy. I think my system sounds very crisp and nice. Maybe the guy that had the car before me upgraded the speakers or something, because it sounds great I think. And being that Georgia is stock, DO NOT soundproof that interior haha. The stock setup is kind of weak...
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 1:58:29 PM
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sowaxeman
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Ok Jared, since you are listening and providing the feedback - all I ask for is four SIMPLE mods that I'm sure the average Saleen owner wouldn't even notice as an extra $1000 additional on their sticker price. Not options....STANDARDS:
#1 - Take off the damn valve covers and give them a nice black powder coat finish with a nice yellow SALEEN sticker in the finish.
#2 - Give us a simple CAI kit with a metal higher flowing inlet tube and ditch the hideous looking factory box.
#3 - Take off the cheasy, RUSTY stock exhaust manifolds and put on a nice set of stainless shorties
#4 - For the N/A cars, have a decorative Intake Cover made up that is custome for Saleen (much like the '07 GT's had standard with the pony on it)
Thats all - nothing else
BTW I have to agree with Mickey - the Shaker 500 is the best sounding FACTORY system I have ever owned, and one of the best I've ever heard. I added a MTX ThunderForm (custom molded for the Mustang trunk) with a built in 200W amp and it just rocks now.
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 2:10:51 PM
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LL04286
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as far as the 99-04 years i wouldn't change anything on the exterior. My focus would be on the interior. Saleen should customize the interior a little more. It is pretty boring in there.
and maybe a few more saleen mods to the N/A motor to distance itself from a GT in HP.
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 2:14:08 PM
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06Saleen3V
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and maybe a few more saleen mods to the N/A motor to distance itself from a GT in HP.
I definitely agree with this, especially considering that the Saleen is heavier making them relatively the same in performance
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 5:14:29 PM
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Red_Devil
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I try not to sound like a negative nancy most of the time so sorry if I come off that way, but I dont work for new car so I really have no idea what their plans are. But, as far as Aftermarket goes....
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ORIGINAL: sowaxeman
Ok Jared, since you are listening and providing the feedback - all I ask for is four SIMPLE mods that I'm sure the average Saleen owner wouldn't even notice as an extra $1000 additional on their sticker price. Not options....STANDARDS:
#1 - Take off the damn valve covers and give them a nice black powder coat finish with a nice yellow SALEEN sticker in the finish. - We are working on getting custom valve covers. We are looking for a couple different vendor samples and seeing which ones can make the best ones for us. It will probably be available in the future. We wont have stickers on them, they will be engraved if anything. Stickers would come off too easy with the heat.
#2 - Give us a simple CAI kit with a metal higher flowing inlet tube and ditch the hideous looking factory box. - I dont know what the plans are for production in the future, but the inlet tube that is on the S281 S/C and E is already a high flow inlet tube. I know in aftermarket we will probably be offering the JDM/SpeedLab cold air kit later on that will be a cold air version of this tube, just like JDM uses.
#3 - Take off the cheasy, RUSTY stock exhaust manifolds and put on a nice set of stainless shorties - Not gonna happen, its honestly not cost efficient to take stock headers and get polished versions, we can't add performance headers without having issues with emissions in some states. Might be available as an aftermarket option.
#4 - For the N/A cars, have a decorative Intake Cover made up that is custome for Saleen (much like the '07 GT's had standard with the pony on it) - I'll kick that around to the people upstairs and see what they think. I'm always willing to pass along feedback like this.
Thats all - nothing else - Good! All these questions are making me thirsty! 
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04 Saleen S281 #381
Saleen Series IV S/C, Saleen 2.875 Pulley, 05 Fuel Pump, Saleen 14" Brake Kit, JDM Air Kit, JDM 90mm MAS Air, 42 lb Injectors, Optima Red Top, Custom JDM Tune
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 6:22:26 PM
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PolkThug
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+1 on the valve covers. Black powder coat with red Saleen logo to match the Series VI would look killer. Put heatsink grooves in the valve covers for heat dissipation.
Ditch the '70 Cuda looking rear end plastic pieces.
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RE: If your name was "Saleen"... - 7/21/2007 6:53:28 PM
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06Saleen3V
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ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
I like my car's rear end!
I would be willing to bet my life on the fact that if I hadn't in fact pointed this one out, Jazz would be hopping on this quote by Amy right now!! So I just thought I would be the one to say, yes Jazz, we understand the sexual connotation behind this comment, no need to turn yet another thread into a sexual battle between you and the lovely Amy.
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