there has been 1, count em. 1 production based v6 mustang into the 9s. there have only been a few 10 second ones. (rygen being one of them) and only 1 of those on the stock block (10.99 with a 3.8 @ 17psi)
a gt can handle more than 450rwhp. there were people pushing 600rwhp + on the stock block, and i believe one guy that went 700rwhp or more. a gt can do 500rwhp on a good tune no problem. some guys on modfords have over 1 year, and 20k miles on 500rwhp+ on the stock motor.
saying the v6 can go to 450hp safely is a push too. sure im doing it, and buckman did it. his motor popped after only a few runs down the drag strip, and mine could go any day, who knows? i think 300-350 is "safe" (flywheel hp) for the v6. anything more than that, it doesnt take much. look at rygen, gas additive in the tank, kaboom.
do i think u can make a v6 as fast as a gt for the money difference? sure and itll be unique.
could i have gotten a gt? of course, would i pay dealer markup, not a chance. the 6 was fast when i bought it, and its rediculous now.
there has been 1, count em. 1 production based v6 mustang into the 9s. there have only been a few 10 second ones. (rygen being one of them) and only 1 of those on the stock block (10.99 with a 3.8 @ 17psi)
a gt can handle more than 450rwhp. there were people pushing 600rwhp + on the stock block, and i believe one guy that went 700rwhp or more. a gt can do 500rwhp on a good tune no problem. some guys on modfords have over 1 year, and 20k miles on 500rwhp+ on the stock motor.
saying the v6 can go to 450hp safely is a push too. sure im doing it, and buckman did it. his motor popped after only a few runs down the drag strip, and mine could go any day, who knows? i think 300-350 is "safe" (flywheel hp) for the v6. anything more than that, it doesnt take much. look at rygen, gas additive in the tank, kaboom.
do i think u can make a v6 as fast as a gt for the money difference? sure and itll be unique.
could i have gotten a gt? of course, would i pay dealer markup, not a chance. the 6 was fast when i bought it, and its rediculous now.
i thought the php car was still on the stock block...?
It is, though its a striped down track car. Its not a daily driver like our cars. Plus its on slicks. Here is a post I put up after talking to Paul on the phone after it went 10's. The car is for sale. It has the new head unit from Vortech, and notice how tall a gear he is running. At that power level, with that tall a gear and trap speed, the motor's got to be spinning past 6500, I doubt as a daily driver it would last long.
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Original=rygen Ok, talked to Paul, great guy. I've talked to them many times, they are a cool bunch of guys. Heres the skinny (some changes from the last time I spoke to him):
Stock Block
New Vortech SC (will be available April 15th)
New custom race transmission (proshift 5 speed)
Zex Nitrous @ 75 shot
16lbs of boost
457 RWHP
440 RWTQ
On a dynojet
Drag shock
LCA
UCA
Ford Racing Racing
Drive Shaft
PHP Pulley
JBA Shorties, H pipe and duals
60lb injectors
Dual fuel pumps
Axle brace
K member and TQ limiters
Mosler Axles
Eaton Posi
4.56 gears
and a good bit more supporting mods
Seats removed and panels like last year, running slicks and skinnies, AC removal, radiator delete kit/support, etc.
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Best 1/4: 10.97@122.09, 1.56 60ft w/4.0 V6 17lbs 75 shot Best 1/8: 6.966@98.38, 1.56 60ft w/4.0 V6 17lbs 75 shot Best 1/8: 7.55, 1.690 60ft w/5.4 3V 8.5lbs www.rygen.net/stang
It is, though its a striped down track car. Its not a daily driver like our cars. Plus its on slicks. Here is a post I put up after talking to Paul on the phone after it went 10's. The car is for sale. It has the new head unit from Vortech, and notice how tall a gear he is running. At that power level, with that tall a gear and trap speed, the motor's got to be spinning past 6500, I doubt as a daily driver it would last long.
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Original=rygen Ok, talked to Paul, great guy. I've talked to them many times, they are a cool bunch of guys. Heres the skinny (some changes from the last time I spoke to him):
Stock Block
New Vortech SC (will be available April 15th)
New custom race transmission (proshift 5 speed)
Zex Nitrous @ 75 shot
16lbs of boost
457 RWHP
440 RWTQ
On a dynojet
Drag shock
LCA
UCA
Ford Racing Racing
Drive Shaft
PHP Pulley
JBA Shorties, H pipe and duals
60lb injectors
Dual fuel pumps
Axle brace
K member and TQ limiters
Mosler Axles
Eaton Posi
4.56 gears
and a good bit more supporting mods
Seats removed and panels like last year, running slicks and skinnies, AC removal, radiator delete kit/support, etc.
oh ok so we are only talking street cars. I can't imagine 4.56's, that'd be horrible for daily driving lol.
Now that it has been established that the V-6s are staying, does anyone have recommendations for significant HP gains apart from supercharging? A few horses here and there would be nice. It would be cool to surprise a few of the GT owners that I know.
You're not going to suprise a GT owner with bolt ons.... but if you have not done anything yet, get a CAI and tune and a new muffler. These two items really change the car for the better. Much better. I recommend VMP tuning.
there has been 1, count em. 1 production based v6 mustang into the 9s. there have only been a few 10 second ones. (rygen being one of them) and only 1 of those on the stock block (10.99 with a 3.8 @ 17psi)
a gt can handle more than 450rwhp. there were people pushing 600rwhp + on the stock block, and i believe one guy that went 700rwhp or more. a gt can do 500rwhp on a good tune no problem. some guys on modfords have over 1 year, and 20k miles on 500rwhp+ on the stock motor.
saying the v6 can go to 450hp safely is a push too. sure im doing it, and buckman did it. his motor popped after only a few runs down the drag strip, and mine could go any day, who knows? i think 300-350 is "safe" (flywheel hp) for the v6. anything more than that, it doesnt take much. look at rygen, gas additive in the tank, kaboom.
do i think u can make a v6 as fast as a gt for the money difference? sure and itll be unique.
could i have gotten a gt? of course, would i pay dealer markup, not a chance. the 6 was fast when i bought it, and its rediculous now.
i thought the php car was still on the stock block...?
you're right, but i left it out because its a gutted track car. a/c completely removed, 4.56 rear gears, gutted interior, only drivers seat, etc. it is trailored to each event.
ive seen a 9 second civic, but it didnt drive to the track, so its a 9 second drag car to me.
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Now that it has been established that the V-6s are staying, does anyone have recommendations for significant HP gains apart from supercharging? A few horses here and there would be nice. It would be cool to surprise a few of the GT owners that I know.
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Mean looking car ya got there.
Your only real bet to run with the GT's without some sort of forced induction would be to go with a nitrous setup (preferably along with a decent intake and tuning).
My own preference is the X-Charger. 300 or so ponies at the wheels (which is all I really want/need in a street car). With the X, I see zero attraction in trading more or less laterally for a GT.
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TOURQE!!! lol, i dont care how fast it can go i just want to get there quick
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gsx eclipse for one, and my friend has a 72 road runner with a 383, i dont know i want more than a gt, i dont care bout pure horse power, about 350 if its possible
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flywheel or wheel horsepower? an xcharger will get you to about 290rwhp, which is about 335-340 flywheel horsepower. a vortech/procharger will get you to around 320rwhp which is like 370ish flywheel horsepower a turbo will get you around 380rwhp or about 425 flywheel horsepower.
torque output will vary on each unit. the X will be around 300rwtq from about 2400rpm until 4500-5000rpm a centri will make usually about the same torque as it does power. the turbo on 10psi will net you around 410-425rwtq
all these assuming about 10psi of boost.
a gsx should be cake with just bolt ons, unless ur talkin about a modded to heavily modded gsx.
so turbo would be my best bet? if so can someone give me good site? by the was i like your mustang
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