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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/20/2007 3:24:18 PM   
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Unless your willing to put alot of man hours in and spending alot of money id just get the gt. Because gts with cai tune gears and exhaust make around the same power as a supercharged v6. Just my opinion unless you want to have a car that you can say you just got beat by a v6 mustang which is why i keep mine

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/20/2007 3:27:01 PM   
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Based on some of the comments you've made you shouldn't trade your car in for a GT. If you are unsure about being able to make the payments or wether it's justified or not then it's just not a good idea.

If you were sure about being able to make the payments then that would be one thing. Also we can't justify your purchases for you. That is something you have to do on your own. After all, either you or your parents will be the ones making the payments. Don't let what anyone else would do push you into a direction that you normally wouldn't do.

Stay with the 6, you still have a long time to be able to get a GT. I'm sure Ford will be producing them for many years to come.

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/20/2007 4:50:30 PM   
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There are no sixers running 9's or 10's in the quarter, or if there are they ain't street cars. The fastest street 6 I know of is Buckman; he is basically 11 flat in the quarter soon to break into the 10's. But if you want that knid of performance you are going to sacrifice dependability, something you are going to need in school. If you have to have 300+ HP get the GT, but while you are in school you'd be better off keeping the 6. IMO
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Ya I know, I cant justify it myself either. I for some reason have this mentality that I need a V8 to have a nasty stang. When in reality there are sixxers running 9-10's or lower in the quarter. I just dont know at this point.

Edit- I could however wait till the 09 release when they push 400hp N/A



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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/20/2007 5:08:05 PM   
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I would wait a year or two and save up.. you can't forget about the new camaro and challenger coming out. If you're considering a challenger you best get on the list now, i know a few guys already waiting for one. And also I hear the stang is getting a facelift.. check it out  http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2006/news01052009fordmustang.php

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/20/2007 5:43:19 PM   
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Theres no rush man...This is how I look at it...We have really nice cars, GT or V6 it doesn't matter.  I flat out own my car...Its a 2005 5-speed with 14,000 on her....I can sell that and put down money and get a really good deal on an 06 or 07 GT....but...I pay the insurance and that cost me 2400 a year right now and would be a lot more if it was a GT so thats out.  I can't pay the insurance for the GT and im going to college this year...So I can wait...im lucky this is my first car and im just thankful for that.  There will be plenty more cool rides in the future.

I have about 2k into my car so its just the way I like it now and im happy...it gets plenty of attention and I have a lot of fun with it...um..end of my story.  Moral? whatever u can get from this...

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/21/2007 1:57:49 PM   
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There is only one GT mustang I am waiting for and that is a Bullitt. Other than that I will keep  my six.

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/21/2007 4:32:58 PM   
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now, someone can correct me if im wrong, but is a V8 conversion THAT expensive? as in, will it be as expensive as trading up on a GT?  I too had the same offer on the board, but stuck with the 6 because of insurance, and a lighter nose means better handling, and i aim for more of a road racer for my car instead of a 9 or 10 second car. another reason i chose to stick with it, certain states dont require yearly vehicle checks (like Ohio) and so any modds you do to the car wont up your insurance, given you dont move. 

So personally, if it were me, i'd stick to the six and mod it out, and later if you still want bigger power, do an engine swap. Thats my personal plan down the road, and if all goes well ill see a few different engines along the way.

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/21/2007 7:41:53 PM   
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  Both are great cars, its a tough road but you can build a DD 10 second V6. 


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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/21/2007 7:46:46 PM   
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Both are great cars, its a tough road but you can build a DD 10 second V6. 



I know, I decided to keep my sixxer. I cant justify a whole other 27k bank note for 90 hp, badges and some body kit pieces. Plus I think its going to be fun having a sixxer modded. Just got my CAI/Xcal today, still waiting on emailed tunes/raining still. Next may be some shorty headers, underdrive pulleys, gears, Tlok, maybe dual exhaust I dont know. Once the warranty voids at 36k, im going to cam, Supercharge, and Nitrous myself up. Maybe forge the internals.

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/22/2007 7:27:01 AM   
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My 6 ran me 22,500. And at the time the dealer lot had most GT's at 30,000 and up.
So after everything is said and done your probably looking at 32,000. if you already have a  V6, the upgrade isn't worth 6 to 10 thousand more for 2 more cylinders.

It will be worth it in a few years for the Boss though.


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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/22/2007 8:19:35 AM   
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I think the 09's will be making 400 N/A, but if at all possible I wouldnt trade my sixxer in on it. Two modded mustangs ftw ?

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/22/2007 2:57:43 PM   
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I was at a crossroads back in January as to whether to trade in my '06 sixer for an '07 GT or keep it and mod it. I tried for a trade-in, and they were only going to offer me $14,000 on my $24,500 V6 Pony Package because "that's what they go for at auction." Whatever. After that I tried getting one on my own. I've never gotten my own car all by myself... my current Stang is under both myself and my father, with me making the payments on it (I'm a 22 yr-old college girl). In the end, though, since I have no credit I couldn't get the car on my own and my income from my full-time job was insufficient without a co-signer, so I'd be back to square one and paying an even higher payment and higher insurance. I decided to hold off for a couple years until I'm done with school and have a good job before getting the GT. I want to get it by myself and be able to completely call it my own. So that's when the mods started. Nothing major yet, mostly exterior upgrades. I've had the GT hood scoop installed, gotten Roush window louvers put on, and replaced the stock exhaust with the MRT AeroTurbine. Those mods alone have pushed the style factor of my Mustang way up, in my opinion. And the MRT helps to attract way more attention to my car, especially when I'm in the higher RPMs during heavy acceleration. I can see the benefits of having a GT, but I can promise you this... when a GT pulls up to me, or when I'm cruising down the road on my own, there's only one car that all the attention falls on. And it ain't the GT.

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/22/2007 4:40:03 PM   
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1+ to that^

Id rather see a sweet stang chick in a v-6 than a dude in GT lol.

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/23/2007 7:43:06 AM   
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I was in the same boat you are about a month ago. Our situations are similar. I'm 19, except I live on my own, got my own loan, and have 158/month for 3 years, no cosigner. As soon as I was able to get a credit card my main goal was to build a ****load of credit. I negotiated down to 17,160 including tax for my 06' leftover. So, I said the same thing you did last month. I can NOT justify spending at least 10 grand for 90 HP and a couple of body mods. The gas doesn't justify it, my insurance would close to double, and I wouldn't be going that much faster. Trust me...You will get a lot more positive attention with a beautifully worked V6 then you will ever get with a stock/slightly modded GT.

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/23/2007 8:32:38 AM   
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You will get a lot more positive attention with a beautifully worked V6 then you will ever get with a stock/slightly modded GT.
       

My experience exactly. At a recent car show I was parked between a 69 Cobra and a 07 GT. With my mods, lowering kit, CAI, flowmaster, short shifter, tune and suspension stuff, I seemed to get everyone to stop by because they were amazed you could get that much improvement and fun out of "just a v6". even the cobra and Gt owners were genuinely impressed and I let the GT owner drive my car (with me in it) around the block and he said he honestly could not tell the difference in sound/handling and 0-60 performance......and I am only half done doing my own mods and having a blast doing it....


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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/23/2007 10:56:01 AM   
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There are no sixers running 9's or 10's in the quarter, or if there are they ain't street cars. The fastest street 6 I know of is Buckman; he is basically 11 flat in the quarter soon to break into the 10's. But if you want that knid of performance you are going to sacrifice dependability, something you are going to need in school. If you have to have 300+ HP get the GT, but while you are in school you'd be better off keeping the 6. IMO
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ORIGINAL: 05Sixxer

Ya I know, I cant justify it myself either. I for some reason have this mentality that I need a V8 to have a nasty stang. When in reality there are sixxers running 9-10's or lower in the quarter. I just dont know at this point.

Edit- I could however wait till the 09 release when they push 400hp N/A



that's not true there area few 6's in the tens on the stock block... not all s197's mind you, i beleive there is only one s197(v6) on the stock block that broke tens so far, buckman will soon, but there is justin's new edge that is or was in the tens, i don't know if its still with the same setup, but that was on the stock block...php i beleive ran 10's and powerhouse was trapping 130 which is easily a ten second car, and still streetable, but that is a shop car.  not trying to be an ass, just kinda trying to keep everything correct.

now for the thread starter, i personally am one of the few people that think alot of cars can sound good, not just v8's.  don't get me wrong i love the sound of a big v8, but i also LOVE the way my car has ended up sounding.  I think it sounds pretty mean. i also like the sound of this exhaust alot
http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/srt_mpx_idle.mpeg
and many others.  Most cars can sound pretty awesome if you really find that sweet spot, i think alot of people are just too hyped up on the fact that it is a v8... Personally, i'd keep the six and go turbo, but that's me.  If you are not mechanically inclined and are worried that if you crack a piston or something that your car will be out of comission until you can pool the money together and you will be caught in a horrible situation, go with the gt.  There will be less chance for problems.  As we have all seen the 4.0 can be pretty damned reliable even with forced induction, but if longevity is the biggest factor, always stay N/A.  Every once in a while i think about selling my car and getting an 04 mach 1 or something and for a while i was VERY close to selling my car and getting an evo, but i have actually grown to LIKE the fact that my car is a v6.  You always have that element of surprise and there are some perks to the 4.0.  go drive a gt, sit down and really think, and decide for yourself.  We can't decide for you.



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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/23/2007 11:25:54 AM   
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insurance was only 20 bucks more every 6 months and gas is 1 mpg different... so dont let that stop you... I got a GT cause my dream one, (mineral grey, GT stick) was for sale. I loved my v6 but if you find one you like better then go for it...

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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 7/23/2007 2:08:33 PM   
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personally id rather mod a 6 and be remembered for a hot car then to spend the same money to get an everyday gt... they dont standout in ppls mind as much as a sweet six... just my .02

also im also in college and know that youll enjoy the gas milage much better and the lower payments... luckily my parents helped me out and i own mine but with apt costs and bills and everything else, gt payments would be a *****.  if you really want to upgrade wait til 2010 or so when the boss' are cheaper and get one of those but for now enjoy the six... ive been told mines a panty dropper haha


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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 8/2/2007 11:23:36 AM   
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I know that my six has about 400 lil ponies in it and I just love kickn some GT ass.  Plus insurance is cheaper and gas is maybe a lil less but if I would have got a GT my insurance would be about double and I wouldn't have been able to do all the stuff I have done to it.  My insurance is already 300 bucks a month.  It wouldn't be a unique 6 it would just be a regular plan ol gt.  I dunno I thought about getting a GT also but have already put so much into my car.  If your going to get a GT do it before you start building your car cause once you do, that money is basically gone if you trade.

Really if you want power just get a z06 or just a c6 LT3 or something.


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RE: 4.0 Engine and the possibilities... - 8/2/2007 11:31:26 AM   
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I know the GT is considered the big brother to the V6, but I didn't mod my car to compete with my fellow stang brothers.  I modded it to take on imports and other non-ford cars.    I'm sure many V6 owners feel that way, but somehow, it always comes up about a V6 or a V8.  We are all stangs.

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