yep, its done. sort of. this is just the basic version, without pics, just to show how all the exhaust types sound. i am open to suggestions/changes and i would really like your suggestions for improving this.


The S197 Mustang GT changed all the rules on getting an exhaust to sound good. The location of the gas tank was moved from the rear of the car towards the middle to better protect it, therefore Ford was forced to put the mufflers at the rear of the car in an “axle back� system. This makes choosing an exhaust more difficult. So I’m here to write out a description of the brands.

There are 3 main parts to our exhaust system when considering replacement. Headers, midpipe, and axle back/catback. The headers channel and collect the exhaust as it comes out of the exhaust ports, the midpipe controls the scavenging effect (see other sticky), and the catback/axle back usually contains the mufflers, which attenuate engine noise.



There are 2 basic types of muffler: Chambered and flow through (also referred to as bullet, resonator, etc). They will both enhance the sound of your car when paired with an otherwise stock setup, however, it is important when replacing the midpipe/headers to choose a combo that will sound nice.

There are some general rules to remember when looking for the right sound:

X pipe always goes with a bullet style muffler, especially without cats. It will work with a chambered muffler. But never put an offroad x pipe with a chambered muffler. Catted x, chambered muffler, and long tube headers is reccomended if you need an x and have your heart set on a brand of chambered muffs.

H pipe/prochamber generally goes with chambered mufflers; same rules apply but inversely.


STOCK MUFFLER SETUPS:

For those who would like a toned down, not so loud inside the cabin sound, the stock mufflers work quite well. However, they are very sensitive to offroad x pipes, meaning they will make rattling noises very easily and I would only suggest h pipes/prochambers for this setup.

Stock mufflers with gutted cats (basically an offroad h pipe, for purposes of sound):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ntTGT2wyy8U

Offroad Prochamber with stock mufflers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qAsl4TC2nrI

BBK Longtube Headers, BBK offroad x pipe, stock mufflers (THANKS White07!!)
http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z109/stangn_bcs/?action=view&current=Picture045.flv

Longtube headers, offroad h pipe, stock mufflers (second set of clips in video)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rdxxuGE4elw

Longtube headers, offroad x pipe, stock mufflers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2CMZRMXqjtw

Stock Headers, offroad x pipe, stock mufflers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pClp0l-aN2E




First, let’s go through the different brands/types of mufflers and how they sound.
An axle back system will offer little to no performance advantage, and the motivation for going aftermarket is usually purely based in aesthetics. Dyno numbers might show 2-3 additional HP but a loss of torque of about the same. It is not considered a performance modification to replace the axle back system.

GLASSPACKS:

Basically tubes with fiberglass in them. Act as resonators, produce a deep but powerful sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EgvOGKi7do&NR=1


Bassani:

Always a good choice, Bassani’s axle back mufflers will give the car a deeper and louder sound, while keeping the volume under control.

Here are Bassani’s “Race Axle Backs�
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZlokhZMfeuI

Kooks Longtube Headers, Kooks offroad x pipe, Saleen Supercharger (THANKS SEVENLEAF!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U0Ng_Yu8zU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_vClnw2tM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swG0UyBuYPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TB9_UVpZ2E

With a catted x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jD65ZC8ib5c&mode=related&search=

With a catted x pipe and long tube headers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NldHzFrHujs&mode=related&search=

I recommend that this exhaust be combined with either a catted x pipe, or a catted h pipe or offroad h pipe. The drone is there, but is minimal and bearable.


Borla:

Also sold under the FRPP and Steeda exhaust guises, and I believe Roush, there are 3 types of Borla exhaust: The less aggressive chambered version, which is standard fare on the Shelby GT, (referred to as the FRPP GTA’s) the more aggressive “S� type, and the catback, which is the S type (bullet muffler) along with replacement over-axle pipes up to the midpipe. This catback system offers pretty much no performance/sound advantage.
The GTA’s are a subtle increase in volume over stock, as well as being deeper. They can be paired with a catted x pipe, or a catted or offroad h pipe. An offroad x pipe is not recommended, as these are a chambered style muffler and could get crackly. Drone is minimal. The aggressive style (also referred to as the Borla “stinger,� although not the official designation) are a substantial increase in volume over stock, and the sound is very low and very deep. They tend to dampen the tone a bit; they are not as throaty, and the sound is well under control. The best way to describe it is that the sound is toned down, not as aggressive, but very very deep. Drone is moderate, but is load-dependent and bearable. Not an exhaust for those who can’t stand drone. These mufflers are complimented excellently by a catted or offroad x pipe. An offroad h pipe will work well, however there are some “trumpeting� issues. In addition, it will not scream on the higher RPM’s like an x pipe will. However, an offroad h pipe is still a very viable option to consider.
Borla aggressive types are always a good choice; you really can’t go wrong with this muffler.

GTA’s on otherwise stock car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2dPYdfOuAk

Stock exhaust vs. catted x and GTA’s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUSCOgffMZI

Borla Stinger Axleback:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7lIPOlCrMMI

Borla Stinger Axleback:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=px8RWdk5Q5s

Borla Stinger Catback outside car:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LcqU1KoSDwQ
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/61c998fd-c9f0-4821-b38f-3a4dd3648af0.htm

Borla Stinger Catback flyby:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dTOJebdq-kM

Borla stinger catback inside car:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i_YL9NruWQQ

Borla Stingers and Borla stingers with offroad h pipe comparison: (THANKS TACOBILL!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L0Pzr09JRPg

Borla Stingers and offroad H pipe in car (with

I bow down to the exhaust guru[sm=hail.gif]

Very nice.
But my setup isn't up there.

Damn son! Doin' work!!! That is a whole lot of research.[sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif]

They better make this a sticky. Great job!

+1
Make this post a sticky--maybe it will cut down on some of the repetitive "which exhaust?" posts...

Good Job!!![sm=americanasmiley.gif]

very nicee.. there better be no more what exhaust should I buy threads.

Very nice write-up. Your definitions of what sound to expect from the different exhaust systems is excellent.

Best thread ever.

ORIGINAL: PROMETHEUS PRIME

Very nice.
But my setup isn't up there.



what is your setup?







im glad you guys like this haha. theres still some stuff i have to add, and over time ill put more clips up as i find them




did i forget any brands?

Nicely done. It took forever for me to wade through all the posts to find an exhaust I wanted.

I'm running stock headers, Pypes off road x-pipe, 2 18inch resonators in the mid section and straight 2.5 inch piping from the front of the rear axles back.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dq1XIFRpfx8

ORIGINAL: PROMETHEUS PRIME

I'm running stock headers, Pypes off road x-pipe, 2 18inch resonators in the mid section and straight 2.5 inch piping from the front of the rear axles back.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dq1XIFRpfx8


wow, that sounds really good.
its very similar to the pypes mid muffler system.


i have to do another section on custom setups and also setups with stock mufflers.[:@][:@]

you win,lol. you only wanted to start this the other day..you work all night? I too bow down.

Yeah I just didn't want to wait. Ended up doing it myself.

Sticky material right here!
Good job AM4.6GT

Excellent post!!! This is definitely the be-all end-all of exhaust posts.

Are you taking additions? You have the vids from my corsa + off-road h setup but not just the corsas. I thought i'd throw it out in case you wanted to add it.

Stock 2006 with Corsa ABs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ut-0708_sw

Gotta love this thread....I'm going to be watching videos for a while. :D

ORIGINAL: TheDarkPath

Excellent post!!! This is definitely the be-all end-all of exhaust posts.

Are you taking additions? You have the vids from my corsa + off-road h setup but not just the corsas. I thought i'd throw it out in case you wanted to add it.

Stock 2006 with Corsa ABs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ut-0708_sw

Gotta love this thread....I'm going to be watching videos for a while. :D



thanks for that, i just added it! i am absolutely taking additions...........this thread will be added to indefinetly.



ALSO: if i used any of your sound clips here, please tell me so i can give you credit!

under mac, put boom tubes. I have them!!!!

ORIGINAL: 22kart22

under mac, put boom tubes. I have them!!!!


lol i have the only 2 clips i could find already there......check em out.


but if you had some hq clips to contribute, im sure noone would complain:)

To my ears, this post comfirms that I made the right choice in exhausts. Great post.

I do, I did a video project for school.


But burning it to a dvd really messed it up[:'(][:'(][:'(]:(

Anyone find any clips of SLP Powerflo's with an O/R H-pipe?

Wow, nice job. No wonder my clips of my Borla Cats on YouTube have been getting so many hits. :D

Sticky!
Sticky!
Sticky!

I wish this had been done when I chose my exhaust. I would have gone the same route but it would have saved me some time and been easier to compare what's out there.

GREAT job.

Very nice work!!

If anyone is interested in hearing the no muffler option I have a stock, no muffler, and FRPP Stinger comparison vid here.
http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/armour845/?action=view&current=d15c4677.flv

Quick question. You stated in the original thread "Magnaflow:
Magnaflow is a system that’s been around for a long time. They have 2 basic systems for the s197: their regular magnaflow system, and the “magnapacks� which are cannister shaped and slightly more aggressive. The regular axle backs are very quiet, and slightly deeper than stock. The magna packs are slightly more aggressive. They are a bullet style muffler. The sound is not too aggressive, very under control, but deep. I would not recommend an H pipe with this setup. An offroad x pipe or a catted x pipe would work best"

So here is my question. Why the x-pipe vs. the H- pipe? What makes it work best with the magnaflows? I have the side exhaust with and h-pipe and the magnapacks and stock shorty headers. I love the sound of the exhaust and I know it is different with the x-pipe but I cant get a video with sound posted so you will just have to take my word for it. I have always been an h-pipe fan and will maintain the H-pipe as long as I can. Just curious....... J

Could we get some ford acing set ups? Or is my ignorance showing and they are just like some other pipes?
Sorry Im trying to learn lol

ORIGINAL: Bama Kid

Could we get some ford acing set ups? Or is my ignorance showing and they are just like some other pipes?
Sorry Im trying to learn lol


The Ford Racing exhausts are made by Borla, check the Borla sound clips and you will know what the FR exhaust sounds like.

awesome post... i was set on the pypes-mid muffler system, due to sound and price, but some of these exhaust's just sound sick! Particulkary the bassani, the gibson, and the JBA... now i have to think harder before actually buying one... [sm=imsmilin.gif]

I've heard the JBA A/B's in person and they seem to sound much worse in person than they do on the vids. It's usually the opposite, hmmm.

So what exhaust should I buy???






Just kidding. Great post! Sticky this one!!

ORIGINAL: mygt500

Quick question. You stated in the original thread "Magnaflow:
Magnaflow is a system that’s been around for a long time. They have 2 basic systems for the s197: their regular magnaflow system, and the “magnapacks� which are cannister shaped and slightly more aggressive. The regular axle backs are very quiet, and slightly deeper than stock. The magna packs are slightly more aggressive. They are a bullet style muffler. The sound is not too aggressive, very under control, but deep. I would not recommend an H pipe with this setup. An offroad x pipe or a catted x pipe would work best"

So here is my question. Why the x-pipe vs. the H- pipe? What makes it work best with the magnaflows? I have the side exhaust with and h-pipe and the magnapacks and stock shorty headers. I love the sound of the exhaust and I know it is different with the x-pipe but I cant get a video with sound posted so you will just have to take my word for it. I have always been an h-pipe fan and will maintain the H-pipe as long as I can. Just curious....... J




well to be honest, any midpipe (without cats i reccomend) will sound very good with magnapacks. however, i feel that since they are a bullet design, an x pipe will naturally suit the sound characteristics better.

an h pipe with bullet muffler will sound fantastic at all RPMs. i just feel that in the higher RPMs (4-6000) under full throttle, it doesn't have the same urgent, screaming, high-rev sound; doesn't have the same tone.

it will, however be the deepest, most controlled type of sound out there. it really comes down to personal preference. so if you like the way it sounds, do not think twice about it because i think differently. don't start to question your liking of it, you know?

This helped me alot in deciding which brand or combination to choose, thanks alot for the effort!!

Kooks LTs w/X pipe + Borla Stingers ABs

BUMP

is this gonna be made a sticky?

am i gonna get my title?:eek:

I just got my SLP Powerflos on tonight and they are sweeeeeeet! I have a Pypes O/R H-pipe and I had the Flowmaster American Thunder mufflers on and I hated the sound. Way to much trumpeting at certain RPM's, sounded like a damn machine gun in a garbage can. The Powerflo's have a little trumpeting at about 2500rpms but it is alot more mellow than the Flowmasters. The SLP's have an awsome tone all the way thru the rpm's and when you go WOT it's insane! I love it because it is a very controlable(sp?) sounding exhaust. I will be sticking with this setup for a long time I think.
I will try to get some sound clips in the next couple days if I can get my buddy to record for me.

Hey thanks for the honest answer and the controlled deep sound (old school to me) is exactly what I wanted. Maybe I will feel different in the future after F/I and LT's JORIGINAL: AmericanMuscle4.6GT

ORIGINAL: mygt500

Quick question. You stated in the original thread "Magnaflow:
Magnaflow is a system that’s been around for a long time. They have 2 basic systems for the s197: their regular magnaflow system, and the “magnapacks� which are cannister shaped and slightly more aggressive. The regular axle backs are very quiet, and slightly deeper than stock. The magna packs are slightly more aggressive. They are a bullet style muffler. The sound is not too aggressive, very under control, but deep. I would not recommend an H pipe with this setup. An offroad x pipe or a catted x pipe would work best"

So here is my question. Why the x-pipe vs. the H- pipe? What makes it work best with the magnaflows? I have the side exhaust with and h-pipe and the magnapacks and stock shorty headers. I love the sound of the exhaust and I know it is different with the x-pipe but I cant get a video with sound posted so you will just have to take my word for it. I have always been an h-pipe fan and will maintain the H-pipe as long as I can. Just curious....... J




well to be honest, any midpipe (without cats i reccomend) will sound very good with magnapacks. however, i feel that since they are a bullet design, an x pipe will naturally suit the sound characteristics better.

an h pipe with bullet muffler will sound fantastic at all RPMs. i just feel that in the higher RPMs (4-6000) under full throttle, it doesn't have the same urgent, screaming, high-rev sound; doesn't have the same tone.

it will, however be the deepest, most controlled type of sound out there. it really comes down to personal preference. so if you like the way it sounds, do not think twice about it because i think differently. don't start to question your liking of it, you know?

Great Job Bro!Oh yeah,thanks for posting my miss shift.[:@]LOL!

ORIGINAL: Norse1974

Great Job Bro!Oh yeah,thanks for posting my miss shift.[:@]LOL!



haha it really is a good clip other than that lol but everyone misses a shift now and then. your other 125 shot vid with you ripping through the gears makes up for it lol.



Hey thanks for the honest answer and the controlled deep sound (old school to me) is exactly what I wanted. Maybe I will feel different in the future after F/I and LT's J


no problem man! i always thought that a little less refined sound like macs were more old school lol.

Hey jason, either jason i guess.....i have not seen this added anywhere in the tech section or a sticky yet....any word on if that is a possibility or not yet?

ORIGINAL: howarmat

Hey jason, either jason i guess.....i have not seen this added anywhere in the tech section or a sticky yet....any word on if that is a possibility or not yet?


well theres some stuff i need to add first, more info, couple more clips, more descriptions, and lethal performance will be sponsoring the thread.


..................if he ever gets back to me lol

Sounds good!

Thanks to AmericanMuscle4.6GT for choosing Lethal Performance to sponsor this thread!

I've started to add links and images to all the exhaust kits listed in the thread. We're also going to offer a 5% discount to any member Mustang Forums looking to purchase any Axle-Back or Catback system we sell for the S197.. I'm working on a coupon code for the site so once I've got it I'll post that up as well. Thanks and please let us know if there's anything we can help you with. Here's a little information on Lethal Performance for those that don't know us.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: AmericanMuscle4.6GT

yep, its done. sort of. this is just the basic version, without pics, just to show how all the exhaust types sound. i am open to suggestions/changes and i would really like your suggestions for improving this.


The S197 Mustang GT changed all the rules on getting an exhaust to sound good. The location of the gas tank was moved from the rear of the car towards the middle to better protect it, therefore Ford was forced to put the mufflers at the rear of the car in an “axle back� system. This makes choosing an exhaust more difficult. So I’m here to write out a description of the brands.

There are 3 main parts to our exhaust system when considering replacement. Headers, midpipe, and axle back/catback. The headers channel and collect the exhaust as it comes out of the exhaust ports, the midpipe controls the scavenging effect (see other sticky), and the catback/axle back usually contains the mufflers, which attenuate engine noise.


There are 2 basic types of muffler: Chambered and flow through (also referred to as bullet, resonator, etc). They will both enhance the sound of your car when paired with an otherwise stock setup, however, it is important when replacing the midpipe/headers to choose a combo that will sound nice. First, let’s go through the different brands/types of mufflers and how they sound.
An axle back system will offer little to no performance advantage, and the motivation for going aftermarket is usually purely based in aesthetics. Dyno numbers might show 2-3 additional HP but a loss of torque of about the same. It is not considered a performance modification to replace the axle back system.


Bassani:

Always a good choice, Bassani’s axle back mufflers will give the car a deeper and louder sound, while keeping the volume under control.

BASSANI "RACE AXLE BACKS@ Lethal Performance http://www.lethalperformance.com/pages-productinfo/product-11460/bas-46055r-bassani-05-07-gt-ss-race-mufflers-w-rolled-edge-tips.html


Here are Bassani’s “Race Axle Backs�
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZlokhZMfeuI

With a catted x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jD65ZC8ib5c&mode=related&search=

With a catted x pipe and long tube headers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NldHzFrHujs&mode=related&search=

I recommend that this exhaust be combined with either a catted x pipe, or a catted h pipe or offroad h pipe. The drone is there, but is minimal and bearable.


Borla:

Also sold under the FRPP and Steeda exhaust guises, and I believe Roush, there are 3 types of Borla exhaust: The less aggressive chambered version, which is standard fare on the Shelby GT, (referred to as the FRPP GTA’s) the more aggressive “S� type, and the catback, which is the S type (bullet muffler) along with replacement over-axle pipes up to the midpipe. This catback system offers pretty much no performance/sound advantage.
The GTA’s are a subtle increase in volume over stock, as well as being deeper. They can be paired with a catted x pipe, or a catted or offroad h pipe. An offroad x pipe is not recommended, as these are a chambered style muffler and could get crackly. Drone is minimal. The aggressive style (also referred to as the Borla “stinger,� although not the official designation) are a substantial increase in volume over stock, and the sound is very low and very deep. They tend to dampen the tone a bit; they are not as throaty, and the sound is well under control. The best way to describe it is that the sound is toned down, not as aggressive, but very very deep. Drone is moderate, but is load-dependent and bearable. Not an exhaust for those who can’t stand drone. These mufflers are complimented excellently by a catted or offroad x pipe. An offroad h pipe will work well, however there are some “trumpeting� issues. In addition, it will not scream on the higher RPM’s like an x pipe will. However, an offroad h pipe is still a very viable option to consider.
Borla aggressive types are always a good choice; you really can’t go wrong with this muffler.
BORLA and FRPP NON-AGGRESSIVE AXLE BACKS@ Lethal Performance [URL=http://www.lethalperformance.com/pages-productinfo/product-14642/11752-borla-05-07-mustang-gt-non-aggressive-axle-back-exhaust-system.html]http://www.lethalperformance.com/pages-prod

Great write up chief, well done. [sm=hail.gif]
STICKY PLEASE! [sm=bounceybounce.gif]

Just added a whole bunch of content for the axle-back and catbacks but the header kits available as well!!

A slight correction on the Borla/FRPP mufflers section.FRPP does sell the "aggressive" M-5230-GT which is the borla "Stinger" straight through (can type), and they also have thenon-aggressive oval type which are straight through but muffled.

The FRPP GTAs - M-5230-GTA are actually an entirely different muffler not produced by Borla. They are used on the Shelby GT and Hertz GTH. These are a chambered design manufactured by Supreme Performance for Ford andalso soldby Supreme Performance. I have them, they sound very good, not quite the quality of Borla since not made of 304 stainless, but 409. The YouTube sound clip of them is mine.

Also the pictures are wrong. THE GTA's DO NOT HAVE THE FORD RACING STAMPS ON EM.
Someone probably did a photoshop job on that one. I would not buy it from that vendor.

ORIGINAL: foghorn2
Also the pictures are wrong. THE GTA's DO NOT HAVE THE FORD RACING STAMPS ON EM.
Someone probably did a photoshop job on that one. I would not buy it from that vendor.



it says, the pictures might not represent exactly what will be sold will the product.



Lethal Performance is a site sponsor. also, you wouldn't buy from a vendor because you think one pic is off?


dude.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Nj841PvQsE

bbr x pipe and cheap flowmasters. Really loud, with no distinct sound!

Were you going to add in the custom setups?

That was ALOT of work for you to do!! Thanks dude!![sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif]

ORIGINAL: 2cokeman

That was ALOT of work for you to do!! Thanks dude!![sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif]



hey no problem! i wanna give something back to the forums, i've learned so much here!

Uhhh.. Ok

Maybe you can get a sweet deal on Ebay! ORIGINAL: foghorn2

Also the pictures are wrong. THE GTA's DO NOT HAVE THE FORD RACING STAMPS ON EM.
Someone probably did a photoshop job on that one. I would not buy it from that vendor.

Here are a couple of different clips of my car on the dyno, gives a pretty good idea of what SLP Powerflo's with an O/R H-pipe sounds like at WOT. I will have a couple more soon and hopefully a few idle vids too. The second vid is a 1/4mile simulation, pretty sweet stuff.Enjoy!!!

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/white98gt/?action=view&current=92e552f2.flv

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/white98gt/?action=view&current=93fb98e7.flv

ORIGINAL: Haze28

Here are a couple of different clips of my car on the dyno, gives a pretty good idea of what SLP Powerflo's with an O/R H-pipe sounds like at WOT. I will have a couple more soon and hopefully a few idle vids too. The second vid is a 1/4mile simulation, pretty sweet stuff.Enjoy!!!

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/white98gt/?action=view&current=92e552f2.flv

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/white98gt/?action=view&current=93fb98e7.flv

You read my mind. I was just about to ask if anyone had some powerflo vids. :D

ORIGINAL: Dirtybird54

ORIGINAL: Haze28

Here are a couple of different clips of my car on the dyno, gives a pretty good idea of what SLP Powerflo's with an O/R H-pipe sounds like at WOT. I will have a couple more soon and hopefully a few idle vids too. The second vid is a 1/4mile simulation, pretty sweet stuff.Enjoy!!!

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/white98gt/?action=view&current=92e552f2.flv

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/white98gt/?action=view&current=93fb98e7.flv

You read my mind. I was just about to ask if anyone had some powerflo vids. :D



Those vids aren't the best quality, the other clips i'm waiting on were taken with a much higher quality camera and should sound alot better.

How about adding Zoomers exhaust to the list. While I don't have a video on it you can see/hear them on the ZoomersExhaust website here http://www.zoomersexhaust.com/vehicle_ford_gt.asp

On the bottom right is a link to play video. They sound really good on the video.

That was an awesome write-up on the different exhausts for our cars. Everyone has their own personal taste and style, the choices are amazing.

Thanks for using 3 of my videos in the MAC section. Gotta love those MAC's.

now you may be wondering, what is on the stang in my driveway?
























bone stock exhaust. for now.

but i plan to get an offroad prochamber and some mac axlebacks. what i've found is that the MAC's are easily, without question, the best sounding chambered muffler there is. an h pipe would sound good, but it needs some of that screaming sound, but not too much that it crackles, so ill go with the prochamber.


and BTW: here is a clip of the MBRP "loudmouth" style axlebacks:

http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x133/Stanghole281/?action=view&current=MBRPrev.flv



this is llsandsll's car (from these forums). sounds pretty badass if you ask me.

If you would Like to add mine here it is

BBK Long Tube headers, BBK Off Road X-Pipe, Stock Mufflers

http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z109/stangn_bcs/?action=view&current=Picture045.flv

Well heres mine, muffler delete w/3.5" tips, modified bullet mufflers placed behind the stock H-pipe. Follow this link to my home page: http://www.mymustangsite.com/killbee

wow, i'm really glad i found this thread... i almost bought some Borla's, but now i knoe Corsa is exactly what i want.did Lethal ever post the coupon code for 5% off?

i think rather than keeping adding these clips to the original thread, a PITA, im just gonna leave them as posted, cause people should read the whole thread anyway, you know?


o and btw thanks for the clips guys!!!

i've got a question. if you have headers, catted X-pipe, and axle-backs, is there any part of the stock exhaust left that would need replacing? i know that an exhaust is as strong as it's largest restriction so i would want nothing left of the stock system.

also approximately how much would good shorty headers and a good catted x-pipe be? could i install them myself? how hard would that be? if i can't, how much would it be to get a shop to do it? i love the sound of the shorties, catted X, and corsa axle-backs. will i get a power gain out of that?

kick ass thread, this is my first posting here! how's it goin dude? thanks for gettin my clip up!

if anyone is considering these (mbrp)i have to say, they make driving the car addictive! one of my favorite things to do is punch it under a highway overpass, sounds kinda like a nascar when it screams through andechoes! also, the tips look humongous! these axlebacks are sweet, and highly unique. ask yourself, how many people do you know with the mbrp's? if you do get 'em, go through lethal, those guys hook it up!

ORIGINAL: AmericanMuscle4.6GT

now you may be wondering, what is on the stang in my driveway?
























bone stock exhaust. for now.

but i plan to get an offroad prochamber and some mac axlebacks. what i've found is that the MAC's are easily, without question, the best sounding chambered muffler there is. an h pipe would sound good, but it needs some of that screaming sound, but not too much that it crackles, so ill go with the prochamber.


and BTW: here is a clip of the MBRP "loudmouth" style axlebacks:

http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x133/Stanghole281/?action=view&current=MBRPrev.flv



this is llsandsll's car (from these forums). sounds pretty badass if you ask me.

haha glad u like em man lol.


one thing to be said about the MBRP's: they sound ever so slightly different than the SLP's, but probably only i could tell. a tiny bit more aggressive. maybe its just me. but i think they look better too.

i think the sound is a bit less hollow, maybe fuller soundingthan the SLP's,possibly because the tips are a bit shorter, so less room for echo.

ORIGINAL: Texotic

i've got a question. if you have headers, catted X-pipe, and axle-backs, is there any part of the stock exhaust left that would need replacing? i know that an exhaust is as strong as it's largest restriction so i would want nothing left of the stock system.

also approximately how much would good shorty headers and a good catted x-pipe be? could i install them myself? how hard would that be? if i can't, how much would it be to get a shop to do it? i love the sound of the shorties, catted X, and corsa axle-backs. will i get a power gain out of that?


Not sure about the price of a shop but if you want gains from the exhaust go with Long Tubes. It also makes the exhaust sound deeper, but if all you want is the sound of the shorties more power to you. As far installing yourself depends on your mechanics skill. Me and my buddy dropped my K-member to install my LTs but he is a front end man at Ford.

well then i'm guessing for0 mechanic experience it would not be recommended as a first or second mod? i listened to the sound clip with the shorties, catted x, and corsa axle-back and it was the perfect sound. i've never heard that setup with LT's. how much more power do you get with LT's versus shorties?

LT's will increase power above baseline, shorties are likely to reduce to power from the baseline.

long tubes will dramatically change the sound of your car. for some of the combinations that would otherwise be iffy, it would make even them sound very deep and muscular. they are the ultimate sound mod.


shorties would give u almost no power/sound gain to speak of. so not worth it its not even funny.

My question is when I listen to the vids of cars with O/R X pipes as the only change or the multiple vids when the same O/R X pipe set up, sometimes they sound raspy, some are clear, some pop when off throttle. Is this a function of the recording? Or does the sound differ if the exhaust warms up after initial start up? Or is it something else? Cause1 vid sounds great and the next sounds crappy.

Mine pops alot when cold. Once it warms up it's nice and crisp/

Prometheus prime,

I have listened to your clip about a dozen times and that is the exact sound I want. I love the off throttle pop/snap sound as well as the ripping sound when on throttle. Did you have the set up minus the resonators? Was the sound different? I have the SLP loudmouths so I would think it is similar to your straight pipe. I was thinking about the UPR or pypes O/R X pipe. I know Pypes has a new X pipe mid muffler set up that appears to be similar to your set up, but I would like to keep costs down and not replace my axle backs as I like that loudmouth sound. Also was your placement of the resonators custom for that sound or will resonators anywhere after the x pipe make the same sound?

Thanks so much for your help, I have been endlessly debating this mid pipe selection step.

UrS4

When I first installed the x-pipe is was crazy load and just sounded like crap. That was with the straight pipes and no resonators. I actually put on a stock set of mufflers to drive home because there was just no way I could drive it. I went and had the resonators put on the next day. The raspiness will change slightly on the position the resonators are placed. Mine are all the way back right before the pipes go up over the rear axles. This was mainly due to clearance issues with the driveshaft. You should be able to get the resonators and installed for under $150 depending on the shop you go to.

One last question Prometheus Prime,

what is the brand of resonator and why 18"?

Thanks man for your advice and sound clips

This is an awesome thread. Brother, you are the man for putting it together. I`m going to watch every vid and listen to every clip, even though I`m on dial up and it might take all day.

Eric

I went with a generic brand. I was going to order these which are basicly the same design just pricier.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SLE%2D31066&N=700 +4294923429+4294804382+115&autoview=sku.
18 inches was the average length. The shorter it is the louder it will be. This seem to be the perfect length.

why isn't this thread a sticky yet???

This has helped a lot... I will now rip my x pipe off and put an H pipe in

Thanks for your help . Got my GTA's from N*I*N*O* S*P*O*R*T Payed under $280 with shipping last week . GREAT!!! Fed Ex stinks though

Amazing Job. Thanks.

does anyone have the FRPP headers and magnaflow true x-pipe to cat-back?

the 2 sound clips (one outside, one inside driving)of the black GT with the pype's o/r H and mac's are mine :)...youtube user name-Aggieboy151...I had been wonderin why there were so many hits on my vids lol...great thread man, kudos:D

Do i need to reset my computer by disconnecting my battery after I install exhaust?

Or is there anything I need to do excpet make sure everthings tight?

why isnt this a sticky?

Sticky this! So much useful information here.

why wouldnt it be? i just dont understand

Needs more stickying!!!!

STIICKKYYYYYY

the most informative exhaust thread we have and its not yet a sticky? whats the hold up?

Great thread, thanks for the indepth description of how the systems will sound.

I was about to buy the Steeda axleback(bullitt mufflers)exhaust until the Pypes mid-muffler system came out. Can anyone describe the difference between the two?

Which one is louder? I am looking for a system that is a little bit louder than the GTAs.
Which one has a lower tone at idle?
Which one sounds better at WOT?
Which one has less drone at cruise?

BTW, I have the stock manifolds and stock catted h-pipe.

Thanks,

just a a quick question. I am thinking of getting the pypes mid-muff system. What do you guys think of it? Would it be as deep as borlas? The vid's all sound so high pitched and warbly... anyone in texas have them installed? I just want to hear them warmed up and in person....

Just did mine, clips do not do it justice, they sound awesome, low grumbly at idle, late 60-early 70's muscle car sound at accelration, WOT is incredible.

Same here as damquick1, Had my mid-muffler system on for about 3 wks. now.
Here's a video I made;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANDdIp2GjY

what about the hooker axlebacks?

bump to the top for easy access

Ay, CARAMBA! Hell of a work there, partner...

Did we miss my single FRPP M5230 GTA?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxfEFETgvIA

ORIGINAL: ronniebgt

what about the hooker axlebacks?


i wonder how much for the hookers? hahaha!

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STICK STICK STICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [sm=exactly.gif]

just bumping this to the top because it is very helpfull. should be a sticky....

might as well add my link here for the Borla Stingers and Off Road Prochamber so its easy to find...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KGF1n-L0FD4

I just got the 3" exhaust tipped magnaflow axle back exhaust kit. Got it installed today, sounds awesome! Will be working on getting some sound clips soon. #15882 part number from magnaflow's website.

PS: Bump... sticky request!

Bumpity bump bump! Bumpity bump bump!


This is a great thread. But I still can't decide. :-(

I had the Bassani axle-back Race muffs but the drone at 60MPH is very intense. Too much for me. Makes me feel like my head is going to implode. This is with the windows rolled up BTW. Rolled down they're fine.

I'm actually sending them back to Bassani b/c the right one has something broken inside that's causing it to rattle. Once I get the new set back, I'm selling them (ebay I guess).

I want something that sounds mean and loudish but I don't want the drone that these Bassani Races have. The Corsas sound good but I'm worried about one person's comment about adding long-tubes make them raspy. I also like the boom tubes but I worry if they will be as loud on the inside as these Bassanis. I want to hear the exhaust inside the car, but not in the same way the Bassanis do.

I didn't read through all the posts but one correction to the original post, the FRPP GTAs are made by Supreme Performance and not Borla. Their part number is M5230, I think. Someone might have already mentioned this. They are what I have on my car.

UPDATED!

Here are mine: Kooks Headers, Kooks Offroad Xpipe, Bassani Mufflers, Saleen Supercharger - 2007 Mustang GT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U0Ng_Yu8zU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U0Ng_Yu8zU)Starting Car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_vClnw2tM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_vClnw2tM) Going WOT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swG0UyBuYPo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swG0UyBuYPo) Engine Rev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TB9_UVpZ2E - open hood

how about the roush axleback with a bassani catted x-pipe? anyone have this?

not so good quality in this video, was taken with a cell phone.
Borla stingers + O/R X + Dynatech LT´s

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hl5gFPI50jg

Hello guys, I know this is a videogame but I really like how that mustang sounds, what exhaust configuration you guys think is that?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fRIX0mXwqEo

Right now I have JBA LT, O/R X pipe and stock exhaust.

Thanks in advance!!

I might as well add to this monster thread !!!!


http://www.houndbite.com/?houndbite=848 (http://www.houndbite.com/?houndbite=848)

desslok40 that sounds good. About the best I've heard.

Any drone with your setup desslok40 ??? sounds awsome!

thanks


drone like hell and I lost an inch or so of ground clearance with the SLP headers, wasnt going to lower anyways !! lol


here is a 1/4 mile run

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_K4rpl0D6A (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_K4rpl0D6A)

Here's a clip you can add to your Boom Tube List: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Se4Q-iXA8I&feature=related

The video is taken with a completely stock Ford Mustang GT 2008, with only Boom Tubes added. Also you might want to remove the clip of the two boom tubes clips you have, cause their either deleted or one video that is still up: http://youtube.com/watch?v=t7bT2XEMMNg might give people the wrong idea in turns of the sound of boom tubes.

Bumby & my vote for sticky;)

it'll never happen, the moderators hate americanmuscle [:-]

Never posted mine here. I love the combo. With the off road pipe, I have no drone and it's very deep.

Pypes Violators with Pypes Off Road H pipe

Dyno run with stock mid pipe
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6670957563043370870

Before and After off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM3EVQraxbI

Track after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOXMKqEw7p8

Dyno after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6bHEkFcyo

In car track video after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sabliM3YU

thanks for the clips guys, keep 'em coming!!

Good job! Thanks for putting all this together in one post. Very cool.

Any clip on open headers? I'm considering electric cut-out before the cat! Thanks in advance!

Bumpy, This was very help when chosing my exhaust. Im patiently waiting for my pypes mid muffler system to come in. ( I didnt know it exsisted till I read this)

BUMP: slightly updated, added a bunch of clips, still a work in progress as always.

with 11893 (and counting) views and only 123 replies, this thread has about half the view to response ratio of the T&C showdown (95:1 vs. 195:1).



is this going to get stickied? i mean it needs a lot more work but eventually is it gonna get stickied?

Nice thread... Hey prometheus that is cool your going to be on Bull run2. That is a great show I watched the 04 f150 go to the end last year I hope you do the same..Good Luck

Wow, not a sticky yet, I had to go search for it!

Just wanted to add my clip,
I see we have a stock muffler with gutted cat clip, but not Stock with O/R-H.

Stock Mufflers with Pypes O/R-H
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkrvY_OZhLA

I had Flowmasters with it, but it was a little too loud. Tossed the stocks on
and felt that it was a great medium, and sounds great imo.

ORIGINAL: Stoenr

Wow, not a sticky yet, I had to go search for it!

Just wanted to add my clip,
I see we have a stock muffler with gutted cat clip, but not Stock with O/R-H.Â*

Stock Mufflers with Pypes O/R-H
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkrvY_OZhLA

I had Flowmasters with it, but it was a little too loud.Â* Tossed the stocks on
and felt that it was a great medium, and sounds great imo.

That sounds perfect. I haven't heard any that I liked better than yours. Does the sound clip sound close to being there in person. Could you give me all the info minus the abbreviations, I'm not that well schooled on them and I want to get the right stuff.
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Thanks!

Nice in car track vid!

ORIGINAL: DarkFireGT

Never posted mine here. I love the combo. With the off road pipe, I have no drone and it's very deep.

Pypes Violators with Pypes Off Road H pipe

Dyno run with stock mid pipe
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6670957563043370870

Before and After off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM3EVQraxbI

Track after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOXMKqEw7p8

Dyno after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6bHEkFcyo

In car track video after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sabliM3YU

Can not believe the mods do not sticky this thread. Over 13k hits and counting and alot of work to boot. Put the sombitch on top where it can be found!
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/surveyor4ever/sneezjx8.gif

Ended up buying the Corsa's. Will let you know how we like them when I get them on this weekend. Thanks for all the help!

Stoenr..your setup sounds great !...IMO there's nothing wrong with the stock mufflers just need therightpiping to bring out the sound ...headers, catted X/ H etc..

ORIGINAL: surveyor

Nice in car track vid!

ORIGINAL: DarkFireGT

Never posted mine here. I love the combo. With the off road pipe, I have no drone and it's very deep.

Pypes Violators with Pypes Off Road H pipe

Dyno run with stock mid pipe
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6670957563043370870

Before and After off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM3EVQraxbI

Track after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOXMKqEw7p8

Dyno after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6bHEkFcyo

In car track video after off road H pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sabliM3YU





Thanks! I thought it came out quite good for just bungee cording my tripod down in the back.

J where u been? i was at towers last friday, and i had a crowd that wouldnt leave the side of my car. some guy w/ an 07 made me write down my exhaust mods so he could purchase them the next day. said it was the best new mustang he's heard hands down. u need a clip on here.

mbrp loudmouths on stock H and on pypes o/r H

ok here's the new setup (w/ pypes):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7irC9q9xR8U

compare to before the pypes o/r h:

http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x133/Stanghole281/?action=view&current=MBRPrev.flv

ORIGINAL: surveyor

Ended up buying the Corsa's. Will let you know how we like them when I get them on this weekend. Thanks for all the help!



I'm guessing these are the Corsa 14311 system? I'm just curious if they still fit the 08 without any hanger mods.

I'm pretty sure you're going to really like them. I sure do.

BTW, join the crew! :D

sounds good

stockers with off road X pipe
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hl-rsC0CyOc

my set up
MAC longtubes, MAC o/r prochamber, PYPES mid mufflers
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/67e37148-7015-43b4-8e4f-9a2900e86f32.htm

that sounds pretty good, ninja. pretty loud when u open it up.:D

ORIGINAL: 07 S197

my set up
MAC longtubes, MAC o/r prochamber, PYPES mid mufflers
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/67e37148-7015-43b4-8e4f-9a2900e86f32.htm

Sounds great but its time to replace your driveway. [sm=nono.gif]

heres a bunch more high qaulity vids to add to the confusion.

6 diff set ups http://media.putfile.com/s197-exhaust-setups can you pick the set ups out? lol I know them and will list them later if it is used for anything to lazy right now ;)

mac axlebacks o/r h http://media.putfile.com/car-25-51

magnaflow stock h http://media.putfile.com/mugshotvid1

I have (had) Spintechs (Lost them in a stupid bet) check this audio clip out (camera audio aint that great)

http://i67.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/Robfatts/Spintech.flv

Also Magnaflow Cat Back

http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/Robfatts/?action=view&current=MVI_0037.flv

WOW! I am in awe of the american muscle 4.6GT. THX

ORIGINAL: racin4christ

I have (had) Spintechs (Lost them in a stupid bet) check this audio clip out (camera audio aint that great)

http://i67.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/Robfatts/Spintech.flv

Also Magnaflow Cat Back

http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h306/Robfatts/?action=view&current=MVI_0037.flv


What was the bet? :D

Just installed my CAI, tune & Boom Tubes...Awesome!!!

How would I know if I didn't get the exhaust clamps tight enough and have an exhaust leak?

ORIGINAL: ga2636

Just installed my CAI, tune & Boom Tubes...Awesome!!!

How would I know if I didn't get the exhaust clamps tight enough and have an exhaust leak?

Because you asked that question I assume you aren't happy with the feel of it. My installer said the clamps wouldn't tighten up enough and so he used the original Ford clamps instead. It turned out fine.

Here are my boomtube video's and this definately needs to be a sticky!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0-q8c-bG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiO7xwbaKgg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hT8CyGN4PA&feature=related

I'm happy with the sound and feel but just want to make sure I don't have any leaks.

Thanks for info..no pun intended Nowarmat.

Thanks for the help!!! Answered a lot of questions!

I absolutly love my Pypes O/R X-Pipe and Pypes Violators!! Best exhaust sound for S197 imo!

What happened to all the other parts of the original post??

It appears to have gotten eaten up with the forum problems:(

Does anyone have experience with the Borla 140209 Cat Back system? This is their touring exhaust and not the "agressive" system.

Thanks

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DAMMIT. I can post replies but I need to post a new thread and when I do Internet Explorer says It cant show this page because I must be logged in... BUT I AM!

WTF?
Can someone help me?

I had actually copied the list as it was in about January of this year.

Here ya' be.

[hr]STOCK MUFFLER SETUPS:

For those who would like a toned down, not so loud inside the cabin sound, the stock mufflers work quite well. However, they are very sensitive to offroad x pipes, meaning they will make rattling noises very easily and I would only suggest h pipes/prochambers for this setup.

Stock mufflers with gutted cats (basically an offroad h pipe, for purposes of sound):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ntTGT2wyy8U

Offroad Prochamber with stock mufflers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qAsl4TC2nrI

BBK Longtube Headers, BBK offroad x pipe, stock mufflers (THANKS White07!!)
http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z...Picture045.flv (http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z109/stangn_bcs/?action=view&current=Picture045.flv)

Longtube headers, offroad h pipe, stock mufflers (second set of clips in video)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rdxxuGE4elw

Longtube headers, offroad x pipe, stock mufflers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2CMZRMXqjtw

Stock Headers, offroad x pipe, stock mufflers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pClp0l-aN2E




First, let’s go through the different brands/types of mufflers and how they sound.
An axle back system will offer little to no performance advantage, and the motivation for going aftermarket is usually purely based in aesthetics. Dyno numbers might show 2-3 additional HP but a loss of torque of about the same. It is not considered a performance modification to replace the axle back system.

GLASSPACKS:

Basically tubes with fiberglass in them. Act as resonators, produce a deep but powerful sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EgvOGKi7do&NR=1


Bassani:

Always a good choice, Bassani’s axle back mufflers will give the car a deeper and louder sound, while keeping the volume under control.

Here are Bassani’s “Race Axle Backs�
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZlokhZMfeuI

Kooks Longtube Headers, Kooks offroad x pipe, Saleen Supercharger (THANKS SEVENLEAF!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U0Ng_Yu8zU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_vClnw2tM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swG0UyBuYPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TB9_UVpZ2E

With a catted x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jD65ZC8ib...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jD65ZC8ib5c&mode=related&search=)

With a catted x pipe and long tube headers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NldHzFrHu...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=NldHzFrHujs&mode=related&search=)

I recommend that this exhaust be combined with either a catted x pipe, or a catted h pipe or offroad h pipe. The drone is there, but is minimal and bearable.


Borla:

Also sold under the FRPP and Steeda exhaust guises, and I believe Roush, there are 3 types of Borla exhaust: The less aggressive chambered version, which is standard fare on the Shelby GT, (referred to as the FRPP GTA’s) the more aggressive “S� type, and the catback, which is the S type (bullet muffler) along with replacement over-axle pipes up to the midpipe. This catback system offers pretty much no performance/sound advantage.
The GTA’s are a subtle increase in volume over stock, as well as being deeper. They can be paired with a catted x pipe, or a catted or offroad h pipe. An offroad x pipe is not recommended, as these are a chambered style muffler and could get crackly. Drone is minimal. The aggressive style (also referred to as the Borla “stinger,� although not the official designation) are a substantial increase in volume over stock, and the sound is very low and very deep. They tend to dampen the tone a bit; they are not as throaty, and the sound is well under control. The best way to describe it is that the sound is toned down, not as aggressive, but very very deep. Drone is moderate, but is load-dependent and bearable. Not an exhaust for those who can’t stand drone. These mufflers are complimented excellently by a catted or offroad x pipe. An offroad h pipe will work well, however there are some “trumpeting� issues. In addition, it will not scream on the higher RPM’s like an x pipe will. However, an offroad h pipe is still a very viable option to consider.
Borla aggressive types are always a good choice; you really can’t go wrong with this muffler.

GTA’s on otherwise stock car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2dPYdfOuAk

Stock exhaust vs. catted x and GTA’s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUSCOgffMZI

Borla Stinger Axleback:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7lIPOlCrMMI

Borla Stinger Axleback:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=px8RWdk5Q5s

Borla Stinger Catback outside car:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LcqU1KoSDwQ
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...4dd3648af0.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/61c998fd-c9f0-4821-b38f-3a4dd3648af0.htm)

Borla Stinger Catback flyby:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dTOJebdq-kM

Borla stinger catback inside car:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i_YL9NruWQQ

Borla Stingers and Borla stingers with offroad h pipe comparison: (THANKS TACOBILL!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L0Pzr09JRPg

Borla Stingers and offroad H pipe in car (with 4.10 gears, THANKS TACOBILL!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L0Pzr09JRPg

Borla Stingers, Offroad Prochamber (THANKS PIGGYSMALLZ!!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KGF1n-L0FD4

Borla Stingers, SLP catted x pipe, SLP long tube headers:
http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x...t=0e5ba360.flv (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x133/Stanghole281/?action=view&current=0e5ba360.flv)

Borla Stingers, offroad h pipe, Long tube headers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qih5SwoZ1Lw

Borla Stingers, Mac Prochamber, Long tube headers:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...65870ad09c.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/bac95a43-d42e-40fc-bd48-0465870ad09c.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...3976d86904.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/845e8f56-7404-4004-be72-4e3976d86904.htm)

Borla Stingers, offroad X pipe, long tube headers:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...4b00e6f0c9.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9c45c02b-51c6-443e-a7e0-994b00e6f0c9.htm)

Borla Stingers, Catted X:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...7f013dbe86.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c9d72f49-b928-4fdd-84d5-987f013dbe86.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...7f013dbe86.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c9d72f49-b928-4fdd-84d5-987f013dbe86.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...7f014e4fe1.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/200d4d80-e928-45f6-977d-987f014e4fe1.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...8100f83cf4.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/cb4f7c11-ae0d-4827-a915-988100f83cf4.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...7f014c527d.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f0997bc5-6d76-43c0-8cca-987f014c527d.htm)


Corsa:

Corsa, while being a more expensive option, are a surefire way to make your stang sound fantastic while completely avoiding drone. Corsa’s are a flow-through or bullet muffler, shaped like a cannister, and very similar to the Borla’s in that sense.
They sound somewhat aggressive, while being under control at idle and part-throttle. This muffler can be combined with virtually and midpipe and still sound fantastic, although it will be quite loud without cats.


Corsa axle back:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...d9b288ffa1.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/483cb598-e2cd-4c2c-bfb0-6ad9b288ffa1.htm)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HzO26ZhL7Q8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CjcUWaU-Hls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ut-0708_sw

Corsa axle back, catted x pipe, shorty headers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RmjNTPA5h_k

Corsa Axleback, offroad h pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTOBpr41K...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTOBpr41K64&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6PJXwoljd...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6PJXwoljdWs&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nISt2ZoKVDg

Corsa Axleback, offroad h pipe, long tube headers
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MZJDceU6m_I




Dynomax:


I don’t know much about Dynomax mufflers. Here is the only sound clip I found.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EqDRDZWSUZQ


Flowmasters:

Flowmasters seem to be an interesting subject on the S197, as the elusive sound created by Flowmasters on previous generation mustangs is largely absent on the S197. This is due to muffler location as well as head port design; it just won’t sound the same. Flowmaster makes an axle back kit for the s197 that makes use of their “American Thunder� series muffler, incorporated into an axle back kit. It sounds very very decent with just the axle back system, slightly louder than stock, but when you get on it, sound aggressive. Mild drone between 1800-2400 RPM and again higher in the rev range. They are acceptable with an o/r h pipe, sound somewhat decent with a catted x pipe, but putting an offroad x pipe with this system is a big no-no. It sounds rattly, tin-canny, just nasty. A prochamber would probably work well, but I have yet to see/hear this combo.



Flowmaster American Thunder Axleback
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...9ad0b81abb.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8cd71c26-5a8e-48c8-b5b5-729ad0b81abb.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...b0329676c7.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b0b06caf-e816-4928-b5a1-73b0329676c7.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e...3482688c9f.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e2e750ea-4e7d-44be-85e4-6c3482688c9f.htm)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YTFtGeXLyRg

Offroad X pipe and flowmaster single chamber axleback:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyS6AmFJ2CA

Flowmaster American Thunder Axleback with offroad h pipe
http://www.brenspeed.com/info/media/hwithflows.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qfL-YDvVt80

Flowmaster American Thunder Axleback with catted x pipe:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5...af0123b24e.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/57189f0c-56c1-43d3-8071-98af0123b24e.htm)

Flowmaster American Thunder Axleback with offroad x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V5TsVccT-sM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e...e601570e68.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e663c74e-1b25-4f87-bbe6-98e601570e68.htm)

Offroad x pipe, long tube headers, and axle back:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3LivZdBGDMM

40 series weld-in Flowmasters with offroad x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_mYZ-agu9bc

Longtube headers, Flowmaster 40 series weld ins, offroad h pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=D22Y2E706Ro

Flowmaster 40 series weld ins, offroad h pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0jXiynEG8S8


40 series weld-ins, otherwise stock:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gcnc3YGae...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=gcnc3YGaeqI&mode=related&search=)

Super 44 axle backs (super 40’s in a 4 inch case), shorty headers, catted x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uFMpXlsXUvU


Flowtech:

This is a chambered muffler similar to flow masters. They increase the volume slightly, and are deeper than stock. The sound is very natural for the 3v engine; it sounds genuine. I would recommend these with an offroad prochamber, or offroad h pipe. A catted x might work, but an offroad x will sound raspy and nasty.

Flowtech Terminator Axleback:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5...c600811a6e.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/57ca2955-ea7a-45e0-80d3-98c600811a6e.htm)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mrvnarsOYgQ

Gibson:

For a long time, Gibson made truck exhausts for diesels and such. Now, they’ve made a system (axle back) for the s197 mustang.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Py7fM5Nhb3I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VpxLh6HXFWU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EWH9nFItIcw

As this is a chambered style muffler, I’d say anything but an offroad x pipe will work well.

IMCO:
IMCO is a company that has been around for a while. they make a chambered axleback that is very deep, but has some packing material and therefore is very under control and the sound is very "smooth."

IMCO Extreme Cherry Bomb Axleback:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1mQ4...elated&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1mQ4ZHq6ik&mode=related&search=)


JBA:
JBA is one of the higher quality brands for s197 exhaust parts. They make 2 types of shorty headers, and longtube headers, as well as catted and offroad h pipes and axle backs. The axle backs are what we’re looking at right now. They increase the sound a fair amount, while giving the car an aggressive tone. They sound fantastic in my opinion. They are not obnoxiously loud, but are a considerable increase in volume when the go-pedal is applied liberally, and sound mean and rumbly at idle. Drone is mild, and controllable. An offroad h pipe or a prochamber would complement this axle back well, or a catted x pipe. Again, since this is a chambered muffler, an offroad x pipe is not recommended.

JBA axle backs:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a...7aa68ef11a.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a00f6114-6486-4cd0-b068-507aa68ef11a.htm)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bTuXicjE3iA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TLDXQ__vyr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69JUthZVlX0

JBA axle backs and offroad h pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TLDXQ__vyr0

JBA axle backs, offroad H pipe, and JBA long tube headers:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PfdAgVbh83A

JBA axle backs, catted x pipe:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...f1009b0339.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/874c2928-43a8-44db-b9b8-98f1009b0339.htm)


Mac:
Mac is one of the more popular brand choices for the s197 mustang. Their company makes 2 variations of axle backs: the most popular, and their “boom tubes.� The regular axle backs are a chambered type, and make the car significantly louder; as well as being deep. The sound is unique; it maintains all the definition of the engine sound while adding a genuine deepness that you can feel. They sound flat out mean. With an offroad h pipe, the sound level increases, and they become very loud. They are very rumbly and muscle car-like, however, they will not scream at higher RPM’s like an x or prochamber will. With a catted x pipe, the sound is acceptable, louder, but very aggressive. With an offroad x pipe, the sound becomes very aggressive, and absolutely fantastic at wide open throttle. However, with this combination, there is some crackling and tin-canny sound at certain rpm’s. If you can deal with that, this combination is worth it. I recommend an offroad prochamber, as a nice compromise between the two. Drone is moderate to excessive with this muffler; but a pair of resonators installed before the axle will help this. However, with resonators, as always, the sound is toned down, not as aggressive.
The Mac’s Boom tubes are an axle back system that is much like the SLP loudmouths (muffler delete), but with some packing material inside to lessen the raspy sound. They sound excellent with almost any midpipe. Drone is minimal, but the exhaust is somewhat loud and filters into the cabin.


Mac Axle back:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3lw0WciqyP8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vjlnmWOiayY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_lw55ACupF0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BmwkuBP_jhY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DHCnm0uNClw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=noi1jMGCmTs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CJSL1fUtB88

Mac axle back with offroad H pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4GWvANQLO...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=4GWvANQLO4E&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Bj-Z3B_n...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Bj-Z3B_nOQ&mode=related&search=)

Mac Axleback with catted x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lcOc2OXAq3s

Mac Axleback with Longtube headers and catted x pipe:
http://www.houndbite.com/?houndbite=848

Mac Axleback with catted x pipe and shorties:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=I_A1VR2VCMA

Mac Axleback with offroad x pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zNV5F7PsbO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSmU-zrNhRU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxoDIMoZZSU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX9ect6mlfI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvQs-bKIiA

Mac’s Boom Tube axle back
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Se4Q-iXA8I&feature=related

Mac’s Boom Tube Axle back:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t=MOV03450.flv (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v204/MarcusK408/?action=view&current=MOV03450.flv)

BBK Long Tube Headers, BBK offroad x pipe, Mac’s Boom Tubes (THANKS ONEDERFUL100!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K6sc3UBuPI0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DBVhKqorPNc


Magnaflow:
Magnaflow is a system that’s been around for a long time. They have 2 basic systems for the s197: their regular magnaflow system, and the “magnapacks� which are cannister shaped and slightly more aggressive. The regular axle backs are very quiet, and slightly deeper than stock. The magna packs are slightly more aggressive. They are a bullet style muffler. The sound is not too aggressive, very under control, but deep. I would not recommend an H pipe with this setup. An offroad x pipe or a catted x pipe would work best.

Magnaflow axle backs:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t4g5XWFrG2w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wv8zFM5v4iw

Kooks longtubes, offroad x pipe, magna packs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ukoZt09SZ6w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_51BaVEYlQ

Catted x to magna packs:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0CfOagAN3...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0CfOagAN3mo&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0CfOagAN3mo

New Magnaflow 3 inch system:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d-J7oJ41V_s








MBRP exhaust:
MBRP produces 2 axle back systems for the s197 Mustang GT: One is similar to borla in almost every way, the other is a muffler delete that basically replaces the mufflers with a section of straight piping. It is loud, it will be a little raspy, but it will be very deep. Very similar to the SLP Loudmouths. Works better with a catted x pipe, can also be paired with an offroad h pipe but will be obnoxiously loud.

The Mufflered version tones the car down much more with a Borla. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A SLEEPER EXHAUST, HERE IT IS. even with an offroad x pipe, it is still very quiet compared to most setups, and will flow extremely well.

MBRP mufflered axleback with offroad x pipe:
http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x...t=c4f29bb2.flv (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x133/Stanghole281/?action=view&current=c4f29bb2.flv)


http://www.mbrp.com/products.php?typ...&Submit=Submit (http://www.mbrp.com/products.php?type=American+Muscle+Car&desc=ALL&mak e=Ford&model=Mustang&year=2005&Submit=Submit)






SLP:
SLP makes 2 variations of the axle back muffler. The first is the SLP power flow, which is a bullet style muffler, aggressive, loud and very deep. Similar to most other bullet style mufflers. Can be paired with any midpipe. Drone is moderate.
And of course, the wildly popular SLP Loudmouths. Merely a simple muffler delete, these axle backs consist of just piping, with the appropriate hangars, and nice tips. Very aggressive, obviously loud. Can be paired with an offroad h pipe or x pipe to be ridiculously loud, but recommended is a catted x pipe. Drone is minimal, almost non-existant.



SLP Loudmouth Axleback:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eqhXU_54o7I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ymIDjvt7l...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ymIDjvt7l84&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8QyAIDP1I...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8QyAIDP1Ixo&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4YycMl1k...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4YycMl1kIA&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=53A07L1LFlA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xSRzf_5VjwE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DXHv9QoGYCo
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...2200f7b2d4.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f4f3252b-624c-4030-8d7f-982200f7b2d4.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...7c11148957.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1065956f-b317-4115-a4fd-b87c11148957.htm)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...d7c9652d46.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/45b1ff43-daca-4514-8552-8ed7c9652d46.htm)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_rwC_VfLc (THANKS ARWING!)

SLP Loudmouths, offroad X pipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN0IM6QbbqM&NR=1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K-FNMGJgLy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mncDpcvDpZM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Tn8EB2nRQ

Long Tube headers, catted H pipe, SLP Loudmouths:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X8U5jXJmwzc

SLP Loudmouths, offroad H pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RKbHj-AEHwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1fCP...elated&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1fCPFOiGAU&mode=related&search=)

SLP Loudmouths, catted x pipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MUS...elated&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MUScSKK0w&mode=related&search=)

Long tube headers, catted x, SLP loudmouths:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...29003f51fe.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9513c05f-1e72-497f-b079-9929003f51fe.htm)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9RZ8bKr0ptU

Offroad Prochamber, SLP loudmouths:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hg82nTBqv1Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IAcKgXzNV...elated&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IAcKgXzNVU4&mode=related&search=)

Steeda:

Steeda has one axle back system, produced by Borla, however not the same as any of the models sold under the Borla or FRPP guises. This one is more similar to the Stinger, but has less packing material for a more Metallic sound. Goes EXTREMELY well with an offroad H pipe, works decently with an offroad x pipe, and would probably work well with a prochamber as well. I have heard this combination (with the offroad h pipe) personally many times, and I think it is easily one of the best sounding exhausts out there, bar none. GURU RECCOMENDED. There is some drone with just the axle backs, but it is VERY mild and VERY tolerable. With the offroad h pipe, the drone disappears for the most part, but the car becomes very loud, especially upon startup.

Steeda Axlebacks with stock midpipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uHwSjTxRNIA
Shifting:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uHwSjTxRNIA
Steeda Axlebacks with offroad h pipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cOo7TEIdJYE
Shifting:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sl3RNimDLsY


Pypes:


Pypes is another brand that has been around for a long time. Up until recently, they made only 2 variations: a pro street axle back, and a violator axle back. The pro street is a subtle improvement over stock, while the violators are much more aggressive, loud, and very deep. They are comparable to Mac’s, and the same rules apply regarding midpipes: anything but an offroad x. personally, I recommend an offroad prochamber. Drone is mild to moderate.
However, Pypes has broken the mold and introduced the first “mid-muffler� system for the s197 mustang. It includes their M-80 Bullet race mufflers mounted before the axle. The reason this works is because the M80 mufflers are very narrow and long, and are probably only a half-inch in diameter wider than the pipes themselves. Judging from the sound clips, id say they did very well. This catback (yes, a true catback) can be paired with any midpipe. For this, I actually recommend an offroad x pipe. That will give you the closest to that 2v/4v new edge sound that is so hotly pursued. An offroad h will work well, and a prochamber is a nice compromise as always.

Pypes pro street:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fV_-3ZFLnxQ

Pypes Pro street with offroad x pipe:
http://www.brenspeed.com/info/media/2005gtpypesx.wmv

Pypes Violator axle back:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pVqoO0EfPTA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HRxnbV398EQ
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...57563043370870 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6670957563043370870) (THANKS DARKFIREGT!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM3EVQraxbI (THANKS DARKFIREGT!!)

Pypes offroad H pipe and Violator axle back:
http://www.brenspeed.com/info/media/HWITHVIOLATOR.wmv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM3EVQraxbI (THANKS DARKFIREGT!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOXMKqEw7p8 (THANKS DARKFIREGT!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6bHEkFcyo (THANKS DARKFIREGT!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sabliM3YU (THANKS DARKFIREGT!!)


Pypes Mid Muffler system:
http://pysales.com/movies/05mustang-...dmuffler01.MPG (http://pysales.com/movies/05mustang-out-pypes-midmuffler01.MPG) (offroad x)
http://pysales.com/movies/05mustang-...dmuffler02.MPG (http://pysales.com/movies/05mustang-out-pypes-midmuffler02.MPG) (offroad x)
http://pysales.com/movies/05mustang-...midmuffler.MPG (http://pysales.com/movies/05mustang-out-pypeswithcats-midmuffler.MPG) (catted x)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANDdIp2GjY (THANKS AIRCARE84!!)
http://www.brenspeed.com/info/media/pypesmid.wmv[/align]

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