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Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/18/2007 10:33:43 PM   
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I searched the forums looking for this one and found different opinions from different people. I've decided that I'm definitely going to purchase the Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar kit for my '07 V6, and I'm most likely going to install it myself since it's so simple. But I read that if you have a stiff rear sway bar (such as the Hellwig) with the stock front sway bar, it promotes too much oversteer and loss of traction? And therefore you should "match" the swaybars (I guess meaning same stiffness)?

I'm just wondering because I only feel like paying for the rear sway bar kit which is what makes the handling so much tighter. I'm willing to buy both if it's what you're supposed to do. Anybody have any advice?


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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/19/2007 9:38:11 AM   
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Buy ft and rear GT takeoffs for less than the Hellwig rear or buy the matched Hellwig bars.

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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/19/2007 6:50:06 PM   
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My car had understeer with the stock suspension. I installed BMR LCA's and BMR rear sway bar, now the understeer is gone and it is more of a neutral steering (better). Plus my traction is improved. I'm not sure how much of this is attributed to the LCA's and how much to the rear sway bar (or the combination of both), but you should be ok without changing out your front sway bar (mine is still stock).

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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/19/2007 7:57:22 PM   
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Hellwig makes an awesome part!
I have the stock V6 front and the Hellwig rear.
It made a huge difference!! Best mod so far. I am fine with stock up front but I would love to upgrade.

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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/19/2007 8:09:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Steven6095

Hellwig makes an awesome part!
I have the stock V6 front and the Hellwig rear.
It made a huge difference!! Best mod so far. I am fine with stock up front but I would love to upgrade.


Ok thanks that's what I was looking for. I didn't think it was necessary to have the same brand bars in front and back. Do you notice any loss of traction on tight curves with the Hellwig in the back and stock in the front?


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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/22/2007 7:36:49 AM   
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I put on only the GT sway bar and the car handles great. Denny

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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/22/2007 12:11:48 PM   
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quote:

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I put on only the GT sway bar and the car handles great. Denny


You mean only in the front? Or do you have the stock sway bar in front and GT sway bar in the back?

Im pretty sure its safe to just go with a new rear sway bar and not replace the front. Tomorrow I'm gonna call Nancy at Hellwig and ask for the Group Buy. Does anyone know if that's still around?


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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 7/22/2007 9:23:46 PM   
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The rear is the GT sway bar and the front is stock! One great ride, to me!  

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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 8/4/2007 8:03:59 AM   
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I put on front and rear GT bars and the car feels as if it needs wider tires now.  It handles great but sometimes I feel as if the car is so stiff that it floats around on the sidewall of the tire.

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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 8/8/2007 11:36:33 AM   
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I have the stock V6 front and the Hellwig rear.


Thats what Im doing this weekend....putting on the rear Hellwig with stock front. If its unbalanced IMO I will get the GT take-off front.

< Message edited by billybix76 -- 8/8/2007 11:38:28 AM >


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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 8/13/2007 7:14:22 AM   
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Follow-up for the above post ^.

The rear hellwig went on easy. After I got in I started down a quiet road and tried some quick slalom turns from edge to edge....Holy Steering batman!. no body roll and perfect control! Then I took it on a tight full 360 degree freeway offramp that normally was a pretty hard leaner at 35mph, I ran it at 50 and was much flatter and felt totally in control with about 1/4 more avilable in either direction. GREAT MOD. Also  stabilized the rear articulation some and seemed to help launches and power shifting steer-out. So far balance seems about right for under/over steer.


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- Flowmaster AT, Zabteck TB
- MGW shifter, CHE KBrace & Limiters
- Hellwig rear sway, shaftmaster 3.5
- 4 way Roush springs, J&M UCA/LCAs, T-lok, 3.73
- 17" bullits, 1/4 louvers, SS headers

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RE: Do sway bars really need to be matched? - 8/13/2007 11:59:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: billybix76

Follow-up for the above post ^.

The rear hellwig went on easy. After I got in I started down a quiet road and tried some quick slalom turns from edge to edge....Holy Steering batman!. no body roll and perfect control! Then I took it on a tight full 360 degree freeway offramp that normally was a pretty hard leaner at 35mph, I ran it at 50 and was much flatter and felt totally in control with about 1/4 more avilable in either direction. GREAT MOD. Also  stabilized the rear articulation some and seemed to help launches and power shifting steer-out. So far balance seems about right for under/over steer.



Sounds great! I got my rear hellwig a few days ago, now I just need to get it to the shop to have it put on. Wish I had the time to do it myself ... Cant wait to drive with it on!


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