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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 8:47:44 AM
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Jazzer The Cat
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Chididdy, your partially correct.
It is not so much were "hating" on an 18 year old owning a Saleen, but as most of us are much older, realize what happends to MOST 18 year olds with a high performance car. I personally think that NO parent does his/her child a favor in buying them a car (any car) much less a V8. I went to HS with a guy whos dad worked with Carrol Shelby. He built his son a V8 Vega, and later a very fast Camaro and destroyed them both. He had no respect for either because they were given to him and felt he was "entitled" to have a nice car. I bought a Vega (4 banger) when I was in HS. Every penny I put into that car ($5000, believe it or not) was my own and I learned respect for driving and value of a dollar (guess the dollar value thing came a little slowly  ) and kept my insurance in check as tickets were hard to come by in a 18.9 second 1/4 mile car (that was my best time)
It is COMPLETELY UNFAIR for us to pass such judgement on you, but is a reactionary thing, for me anyway. None of us wish you ill will or NOT to get the car you want. We are all good people in here and just a little old school.
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 8:59:59 AM
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ChiDiddy
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WTH are all of you getting all fussy that im getting a Saleen? Oh is it because Im only 18 and i can afford a Saleen? Thats my business if i can or not. I am OK if you dont think i can afford it.
I don't know if you realize it but you guys sound like your hating on an 18 year old getting the same car you worked so hard to get. Correct me if im wrong. But dont think i didint work hard for this. (thats if you believe i have my own company or not)
Or rather, they haven't dis-earned it (is that a word?) by "bending the truth" or questioning which car would have more value if they totalled it.
Ok you know what? Just forget my background then. If that is so hard to accept that i am 18 years old with my OWN money top pay for this owell. I am not a one of those teens who dont even have the funds to pay for this yet buy it and end up having someone else take over their payments. This car is being paid for in cash(fine if you dont believe me) The fact is I earned my money to buy this. My parenst ARE NOT paying for this. They simply have the decision because I am still only 18. And why are you stuck on my question about the totalling? Is that not a simple question to be answered? No harm was done in asking that question. Maybe I like to think ahead on IF i get in an accident, will insurance give me the most value possible? I dont need that question answered anymore because i went to my insurance agent and asked myself. I dont see anything wrong with the question asked. When you think ahead, you get ahead of the game Amy...
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 9:07:22 AM
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ChiDiddy
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ORIGINAL: Jazzer The Cat
Chididdy, your partially correct.
It is not so much were "hating" on an 18 year old owning a Saleen, but as most of us are much older, realize what happends to MOST 18 year olds with a high performance car. I personally think that NO parent does his/her child a favor in buying them a car (any car) much less a V8. I went to HS with a guy whos dad worked with Carrol Shelby. He built his son a V8 Vega, and later a very fast Camaro and destroyed them both. He had no respect for either because they were given to him and felt he was "entitled" to have a nice car. I bought a Vega (4 banger) when I was in HS. Every penny I put into that car ($5000, believe it or not) was my own and I learned respect for driving and value of a dollar (guess the dollar value thing came a little slowly ) and kept my insurance in check as tickets were hard to come by in a 18.9 second 1/4 mile car (that was my best time)
It is COMPLETELY UNFAIR for us to pass such judgement on you, but is a reactionary thing, for me anyway. None of us wish you ill will or NOT to get the car you want. We are all good people in here and just a little old school.
The Jazzer
Thank you so much for being the only one willing to explain this hostility towards me. I can put myslef in your feet and would think the exact same way of a teen. I have been driving since I was 15, never been pulled over, and never ever raced a car. May have stepped on the gas heavily a couple of times just because im late for school, but thats it. I have been driving a GMC Sub and a turboed RSX. I think being able to drive a turboed car is enough experience for me to drive a Saleen 3 valve (basically a GT with new looks).
Anyways thanks for your post Jazzer
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 10:54:57 AM
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mills281e
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With all due respect ChiDiddy.....if this is infact your own money and you are 18 (meaning, no longer a minor in any state of the union).....tell your parents to go fly a kite about interior color  !
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 11:30:28 AM
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sowaxeman
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+1 to the Mills'ster. If you I had $40k to spend on a car and I was 18, there is no way I would let my parents tell me what car I could buy soley on the interior color 
Chi - swapping out seats with somebody else would not be very wise IMO. The seats are different, save for the frame. You'd be putting tan GT seats (not total leather) in a Saleen and some lucky bum would be getting Saleen Leather (TOTAL leather) seats in there car - and they would both look stupid IMO (black & tan mix).
You also mentioned swapping out the Saleen expension - why?! Have you DRIVEN one yet - the suspension is great. So if you are planning such mods your money would probably be better spend on a '07 clearout Mustang GT or even very low mile used '06.
I don't think anybody hates you or 18 year olds for that matter - just a little skepticism based on your first few posts.
And as for your comment on getting more money for an '08 vs '07 if it was totalled - thats just the stupidest thing I've ever heard You don't buy a car for its potential "totaled" value 
And not that I doubt you - because I knew some HS kids with their own businesses that made 6 figures before college - but if everything you say is true then congrats, you are apparently doing things right in your life.....well, except for letting your parents still run it 
Good luck with whatever you decide.
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 12:11:49 PM
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 1:32:32 PM
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Chuckdoc
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Chi -
I understand your position better than what you first posted. Go back and re-read your openning post of the thread. Now look at it from our eyes, and tell me you wouldn't react similarly.
Congrats on your purchase when it comes in. Post up pics. This is one of the friendliest forums out there for cars. If you spend some time on car forums you'll know that. Don't go by your introduction, as you kind of made yourself a target, just read back through some of the archives about the interiors, suspension, etc... of the 3V.
I think you'll find the group is more fun than what you've experienced the 2 days you've been a member.
Cheers,
Chuck
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 5:37:55 PM
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ChiDiddy
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+1 to the Mills'ster. If you I had $40k to spend on a car and I was 18, there is no way I would let my parents tell me what car I could buy soley on the interior color
Chi - swapping out seats with somebody else would not be very wise IMO. The seats are different, save for the frame. You'd be putting tan GT seats (not total leather) in a Saleen and some lucky bum would be getting Saleen Leather (TOTAL leather) seats in there car - and they would both look stupid IMO (black & tan mix).
You also mentioned swapping out the Saleen expension - why?! Have you DRIVEN one yet - the suspension is great. So if you are planning such mods your money would probably be better spend on a '07 clearout Mustang GT or even very low mile used '06.
I don't think anybody hates you or 18 year olds for that matter - just a little skepticism based on your first few posts.
And as for your comment on getting more money for an '08 vs '07 if it was totalled - thats just the stupidest thing I've ever heard You don't buy a car for its potential "totaled" value
And not that I doubt you - because I knew some HS kids with their own businesses that made 6 figures before college - but if everything you say is true then congrats, you are apparently doing things right in your life.....well, except for letting your parents still run it
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Thanks sowaxeman for all yoru input. I know I am 18 and everything but I am Asian and it is uin our culture to keep obeying our parents even pass the age of 18, no matter how much money I make. Can you tell me how much Mustang GT preimums usually sell for? Because where Im comign from these dealers are still selling GTs for 28,000. I have a quote on a Mustang Saleen 3Valve for 38,500, which is a steal IMO.
Yes I have test drove the Saleen, and YES the supsension is awesome, but I am looking for a MUCh stiffer ride and would like to adjust many of the suspension aspects. I'm looking at the D-Spec setup along with BMR and Steeda components.
About the leather seats, what do you mean TOTALLY leather? Ive seen the GT seats too and they look pretty darn all leather to me(correct me if im wrong)
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 5:39:28 PM
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spooky
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Also, why a 2008? The 2007 model year closeout is just ramping up and there are deals to be had. I've already seen 0% financing, which came a month or two earlier than this same offer came last year.
actually that never even occured to me about getting the 0% financing for the Saleen. i just assumed that the 0% financing would be for the V6's and GT's. guess i'd have to find a Ford dealer that offers Saleens now.
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RE: Saleen Questions - 7/17/2007 6:43:13 PM
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Jazzer The Cat
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Yes I have test drove the Saleen, and YES the supsension is awesome, but I am looking for a much stiffer ride and would like to adjust many of the suspension aspects. I'm looking at the D-Spec setup along with BMR and Steeda components....
Please DO NOT PUT STIFFER SPRINGS THAN SALEEN. The car will handle HORRIBLY on the road if you do so!!!!!!!
Street handling is NOT found in stiffer springs, it is found in stiffer chassis. Go "K" member, control arms (front and rear) and Watts-Link. Maybe this is what you meant so sorry if I read into your post. My car has been completely re-suspended and rides as good as stock Saleen but will out corner a Z06 and all the BMW's I have come across on the twisties.
Tha Jazzer talkin' some LOOOONG trash with the new guy 
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