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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 12:47:18 PM   
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ford did make high performance v6's just look at the thunderbird SC a 3.8 with a M90 that was high performance v6 at its time 


No a grand national was a high performance V6...a s/c'd singleport is still slow

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 1:32:10 PM   
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the 3.8L V6 ford makes is a ohv pushrod design, it is cheap and easy to produce, with little advanced technology. When I bought my 2002 brand new I got it for $15,500 before tax, title and all that jazz. You tell me who makes a 15,500 car with 190hp and 225 ft/lbs of torque.



Thats the problem its cheap... if they made a stronger engine it would cost more... And you cant compare classic models to late models its like apples and oranges. Theres huge advances in technology compared to the cars your talking about too.. Its called Electic Fuel Injection... Its more efficient than a carb giving the newer stangs an upper hand in power and its ALOT more advanged than a carb.. All the components in cars now days that control everything is alot more advanced than your check engine light and AM-FM Cassette/ 8 Track from years past.


the engine is plenty strong.

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 2:18:33 PM   
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exactly, just because I said it was cheap to produce, does not mean it is not a strong and reliable motor. 


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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 4:52:43 PM   
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We are slow cause we weigh a LOT more than the imports do

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 5:41:49 PM   
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 When I bought my 2002 brand new I got it for $15,500 before tax, title and all that jazz. You tell me who makes a 15,500 car with 190hp and 225 ft/lbs of torque.

?? How much were new edge mustangs new?? That sounds real cheap because I bought mine with 45k miles for $9k and mines an 2000, did I get riped off?

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 6:08:54 PM   
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imo... ford can make a decent v6, you just have to do some work/mods to it to get there and that's fun in itself.  besides, i would like to see ANY stock/mildly modified mitsubishi eclipse gt take on LilRoush's mustang - fried rice anyone?

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 9:44:02 PM   
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The 3.8 is a good motor and if you think its slow, race some Firebirds with the 305 TBI and you will feel better.
As for output, its not a fair comparison for a OHV and a DOHC. Lots of other factor come into play when talking performance than the HP on paper.The GNX Turbo 3.8 was a good motor, the T-Bird SC 3.8 was good motor, Mustang 3.8, GM 3.8, were all great motors. My dad took a 87 Cutlass 3.8 Series I 325K miles before selling it, and our LeSabe 3.8 Series II has 198K and made 205 HP from the factory. I know it no the same as your mustangs, but similair output. I do not see the problem. An easy 200 flywheels HP with a mod or two in a base car, sounds good to me.Not to mention potential, RWD, and a relatively torquey motor, with some damn good looks. Still want to compare with a feminine esplisce? Me niether.

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 9:55:10 PM   
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We are slow cause we weigh a LOT more than the imports do


speak for urself

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 10:03:33 PM   
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And another thing: Aftermarket, Mach 460 stereo, Compatible with other Mustangs(laserred's Mach 1 suspenions goodies) the list goes on. Manuel or auto? Vert or Coupe? Take your pick.

Try swapping gears with a Posi unit into a FWD. Dual Exhaust? Factory kick-ass stereo?  Burn-outs? A Daily driver, high 15 sec car getting 30 MPG, and making roughly 200HP in car tha debuted 8 years ago with a few mods thrown into the mix?
I can not think of any other car besides the 3.8 F-Body than really comes close.
And think the 4.0 is even better, and the DOHC 3.5 might finds its way in to a Mustang as well.

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 10:48:14 PM   
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price is a big issue, but also, most of those import cars are (and are even advertized as) "TUNED". the factories that produce those import 4bangers and 6ers are tuning those cars to put out as much power as they can with the stock parts that are on it. and for that, they are able to jack the price.

do i think the v6 mustang is a slow car? yes. but id rather have a slow mustang with the ability to upgrade it the way i want, rather than have a mildly faster 4banger/6shooter import that is tuned out to its maximum capabilities until FI or porting is done.


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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/15/2007 11:57:47 PM   
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When did we start talking about imports? lol who cares about imports. (but if u max out an import that weighs next to nothing, ull rip the doors of ALOT of cars.) Point of the matter is that the 3.8L IS slow, but its got potential (as GM has pointed out with the late model firebirds and camaros). Hell, if Ford made the V6/V8 like Camaro did the Mustang might have died out too with the increase in power and price. The only reason ford kept their engines smaller is because they are more affordable if theirs not alot to em. The Block may be durable, but that doesnt stop the rest of the car from crapping out on you.

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/16/2007 6:01:10 AM   
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We are slow cause we weigh a LOT more than the imports do


have you seen the curb weight of an 06/07 eclipse GT?  ~3560lbs is quite a bit (from car & driver).

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RE: Why does our V6 seem....like a POS - 7/16/2007 6:44:58 AM   
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True the eclipse IS heavy but it actually has a 3.8L V6 with more torque than a usual ricer. It also lacks control for its weight. Its a styling blunder.. they sacraficed everything basically to give it a bigger engine and make it look better.

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