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Old 07-13-2007, 05:43 PM   #1
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Default 3 point seatbelts

After reading many website and seeing a lot of pictures, I got my 3 point seatbelts, and I'm ready to install them. I put them in the car for a "mock" build to see if everything lines up. I noticed that I didn't account into where the retractor box will bolt into. I noticed that JamesW bolted his to the floor, but I don't have a right angle bracket to do that. Is the safest thing to to bolting it to the floor?

Also, the pivot point. I noticed a lot of people put it in the roof, using that access hole. Problem is, I don't have that access hole. Should I just drill one? Are there any other options? Thanks,
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:11 PM   #2
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Default RE: 3 point seatbelts

Stephen, where did you buy your seatbelts? I had to buy2 of these kitsfor an extra10 bucks each when I ordered mine from Westco. It has the floor attach bracket parts, and the plate that went up in the overhead.

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Old 07-13-2007, 06:34 PM   #3
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I mounted my retractor to the floor using a large, 3 inch dia,flat washer. I had to use several thick washers to get a good fit.
Pictures are of the door jam installation.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:19 PM   #4
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can a 3 pt belt be added to a convertable?
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:25 PM   #5
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Yes, front seats are easy. The retractor mounts to the floor in front of the rear seat, the outer mounting point goes to the same place as the standard belt and a special bracket goes to a point near the top of the door frame (see my pictures above). You reach over your shoulder, grab the buckle piece and draw it over you to the center latch - gee, just like the new cars. Point is, they work.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:22 AM   #6
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Yes, front seats are easy. The retractor mounts to the floor in front of the rear seat, the outer mounting point goes to the same place as the standard belt and a special bracket goes to a point near the top of the door frame (see my pictures above). You reach over your shoulder, grab the buckle piece and draw it over you to the center latch - gee, just like the new cars. Point is, they work.
Jim
what are the limitations of attaching the shoulder strap there? I mean, I understand that's the only choice on a vert, but why don't they suggest coupes and fastbacks to do that too, instead of attaching to the roof/headliner ???
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:36 AM   #7
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Most of the three point belt kits use the door frame.If you look at my hardtop's pictures, that's where it's attached. That method works on convertibles as well. To do a similar door frame type installation on a Fastback, you have toremove most of the fiberglass rear quarter to get a solid attaching point. That's why the roof is a better point to do this. You can also use the roof on a hardtop but that requires welding, a new head liner and special belts. If the 'they' want to spend a lot more money, fine. I'm satisified with the one I got.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:42 AM   #8
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from the pictures, your set up looks like a very easy installation.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:45 AM   #9
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I forgot about that. I spent most of my time getting the tools out and putting them away.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:05 AM   #10
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James,
I cannot remember exactly who I got my kit from, but I know it wasn't Wesco. The kit is almost identical to Wesco's, exept the mounting hardware. It has the pivot bolt, and a couple bolts for mounting. This is the problem: When you take the retractor and place it "up and down" so the belt comes easily out and goes back in easily, the mounting hole must be horizontal. This is a rather dumb design, as it is clearly smarter to bolt it to the floor, than the wall. So, I'm thinking maybe I should weld on an angle, to make it horizontal -> vertical. Then, I could properly bolt it to the floor.

Now on to Jim. I really like that mounting point, because it seems it would not rub my neck (I'm kinda short, ~5'9", and the lady is 5'2"). I found this page: http://jr.stangnet.com/front.htm#top and it is sort of what I am looking for. So that peice on the other side of the door - just a peice of steel with a couple bolts to secure it? Thanks,
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