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RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/3/2007 11:49:17 PM   
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good point fairlane. could not have said it better. except the spoiler. oh well, close



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RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/3/2007 11:59:33 PM   
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after reading all the history and arguments on the subject I forgot the question!  LOL!  Anyway after Carroll Shelby passes everything with his name on it or made at Shelby Motors will be worth more.....how much who knows? I would never buy a car hoping that it will go up in value and be an investment but if has Shelby on it and it is proven to be real it will be worth more in the future after he passes....JMO  J

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RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 10:31:24 AM   
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Close enough!!!   ...enjoy!!! 

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RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 10:32:50 AM   
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good point fairlane. could not have said it better. except the spoiler. oh well, close



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RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 11:25:22 AM   
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    How many Shelby Mustangs made.


  • cheftjpeck
    You stated """""read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made"""
    There were a lot more than 562 Shelby mustangs made. Maybe You should  'Read up on some facts'
     
    Fact is, IMO, When the old fart dies, all these Shelby Mustangs will be worth a lot more. and they are already overpriced.
    And Again, IMO, the only shelby in 65 that was worth a crap was the 350R, and you couldn't buy one of those.
    Your Right about the $4,000 for a 65 but The price I said was for a 68 and they were selling for around $5500.
    I think before you start criticizing someone’s opinion, at least you should read what they wrote. or maybe Reading comprehension was a class you shipped.  I don't mind anyone taking exception to what I say, But at least it should be what I say and not what you think I was talking about.



  • Below are the numbers of Shelby's made , from  a Shelby site.

  • 1965 GT350 Fastback 520
  • 1965 GT350R Fastback 34
  • 1966 GT350 Fastback 1368
  • 1966 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 999
  • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback 21
  • 1967 GT350 Fastback 1175
  • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 26
  • 1967 GT500 Fastback 2048
  • 1968 GT350 Fastback 803
  • 1968 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 224
  • 1968 GT350 Convertible 404
  • 1968 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 1
  • 1968 GT500 Fastback 1044
  • 1968 GT500H (Hertz) Fastback 2
  • 1968 GT500 Convertible 402
  • 1968 GT500KR Fastback 1053
  • 1968 GT500KR Convertible 517
  • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Sportroof 935
  • 1969 GT350H (Hertz) Sportroof 152
  • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Convertible 194
  • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Sportroof 1534
    • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Convertible 335

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    RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 11:45:53 AM   
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      How many Shelby Mustangs made.


  • cheftjpeck
    You stated """""read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made"""
    There were a lot more than 562 Shelby mustangs made. Maybe You should  'Read up on some facts'
     
    Fact is, IMO, When the old fart dies, all these Shelby Mustangs will be worth a lot more. and they are already overpriced.
    And Again, IMO, the only shelby in 65 that was worth a crap was the 350R, and you couldn't buy one of those.
    Your Right about the $4,000 for a 65 but The price I said was for a 68 and they were selling for around $5500.
    I think before you start criticizing someone’s opinion, at least you should read what they wrote. or maybe Reading comprehension was a class you shipped.  I don't mind anyone taking exception to what I say, But at least it should be what I say and not what you think I was talking about.


  • Below are the numbers of Shelby's made , from  a Shelby site.

    • 1965 GT350 Fastback 520
    • 1965 GT350R Fastback 34
    • 1966 GT350 Fastback 1368
    • 1966 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 999
    • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback 21
    • 1967 GT350 Fastback 1175
    • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 26
    • 1967 GT500 Fastback 2048
    • 1968 GT350 Fastback 803
    • 1968 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 224
    • 1968 GT350 Convertible 404
    • 1968 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 1
    • 1968 GT500 Fastback 1044
    • 1968 GT500H (Hertz) Fastback 2
    • 1968 GT500 Convertible 402
    • 1968 GT500KR Fastback 1053
    • 1968 GT500KR Convertible 517
    • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Sportroof 935
    • 1969 GT350H (Hertz) Sportroof 152
    • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Convertible 194
    • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Sportroof 1534
      • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Convertible 335



    • Great to see the numbers:  You wouldn't have the numbers handy for: 1966 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback : but with non-black (preferrably red w/white) and a 4Speed.  That's the car I always wanted but will never get.   Thanks, again great research for us all.  

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      RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 1:48:45 PM   
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      In another interesting move for '66, Carroll concocted the GT-350H -- "H" for Hertz Rent-A-Car. Exactly 936 were built, all finished in black with gold striping and equipped with Select-Shift Cruise-O-Matic. Hertz rented them for $17 a day and 17 cents a mile.

      http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1965-1966-ford-mustang7.htm
       
      I don't believe Shelby made a other than Black, 350 H. But, I was wrong , once.

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      RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 2:36:34 PM   
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      Hey, where did you find a shelby gt500 for MSRP?
      and to all the other questions thanks for the info......

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      RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 2:41:20 PM   
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      In another interesting move for '66, Carroll concocted the GT-350H -- "H" for Hertz Rent-A-Car. Exactly 936 were built, all finished in black with gold striping and equipped with Select-Shift Cruise-O-Matic. Hertz rented them for $17 a day and 17 cents a mile.

      http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1965-1966-ford-mustang7.htm
       
      I don't believe Shelby made a other than Black, 350 H. But, I was wrong , once.


      Come on man, you da expert!!!   I don't have time to Google the info but yes there were a few other than black (I believe red and blue)  and there were a small number of sticks as well.  BTW 'H' for
      Hertz Rent-A-Racer  Each one came with a rear license plate surround bracket that said "Hertz Rent-A-Racer"  Way too cool.  ...but to have non black in a stick, well that could be 7 figures.  Check the info if you get a chance before I do.  Happy Fourth man!!

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      RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:09:19 PM   
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      quote:

      ORIGINAL: ZZmustang

        How many Shelby Mustangs made.


    • cheftjpeck
      You stated """""read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made"""
      There were a lot more than 562 Shelby mustangs made. Maybe You should  'Read up on some facts'
       
      Fact is, IMO, When the old fart dies, all these Shelby Mustangs will be worth a lot more. and they are already overpriced.
      And Again, IMO, the only shelby in 65 that was worth a crap was the 350R, and you couldn't buy one of those.
      Your Right about the $4,000 for a 65 but The price I said was for a 68 and they were selling for around $5500.
      I think before you start criticizing someone’s opinion, at least you should read what they wrote. or maybe Reading comprehension was a class you shipped.  I don't mind anyone taking exception to what I say, But at least it should be what I say and not what you think I was talking about.


    • Below are the numbers of Shelby's made , from  a Shelby site.

      • 1965 GT350 Fastback 520
      • 1965 GT350R Fastback 34
      • 1966 GT350 Fastback 1368
      • 1966 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 999
      • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback 21
      • 1967 GT350 Fastback 1175
      • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 26
      • 1967 GT500 Fastback 2048
      • 1968 GT350 Fastback 803
      • 1968 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 224
      • 1968 GT350 Convertible 404
      • 1968 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 1
      • 1968 GT500 Fastback 1044
      • 1968 GT500H (Hertz) Fastback 2
      • 1968 GT500 Convertible 402
      • 1968 GT500KR Fastback 1053
      • 1968 GT500KR Convertible 517
      • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Sportroof 935
      • 1969 GT350H (Hertz) Sportroof 152
      • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Convertible 194
      • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Sportroof 1534
        • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Convertible 335



      • Hey ZZ....first of all...why dont you go back and re read my post.....562 shelby's were released in 1965 and the numbers increased as years went on...I did not state that just 562 shelbys were released....so get a grip and read .....

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        RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:21:46 PM   
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        ORIGINAL: ZZmustang

          How many Shelby Mustangs made.


      • cheftjpeck
        You stated """""read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made"""
        There were a lot more than 562 Shelby mustangs made. Maybe You should  'Read up on some facts'
         
        Fact is, IMO, When the old fart dies, all these Shelby Mustangs will be worth a lot more. and they are already overpriced.
        And Again, IMO, the only shelby in 65 that was worth a crap was the 350R, and you couldn't buy one of those.
        Your Right about the $4,000 for a 65 but The price I said was for a 68 and they were selling for around $5500.
        I think before you start criticizing someone’s opinion, at least you should read what they wrote. or maybe Reading comprehension was a class you shipped.  I don't mind anyone taking exception to what I say, But at least it should be what I say and not what you think I was talking about.


      • Below are the numbers of Shelby's made , from  a Shelby site.

        • 1965 GT350 Fastback 520
        • 1965 GT350R Fastback 34
        • 1966 GT350 Fastback 1368
        • 1966 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 999
        • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback 21
        • 1967 GT350 Fastback 1175
        • 1967 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 26
        • 1967 GT500 Fastback 2048
        • 1968 GT350 Fastback 803
        • 1968 GT350H (Hertz) Fastback 224
        • 1968 GT350 Convertible 404
        • 1968 GT350 Coupe/Notchback (Trans Am) 1
        • 1968 GT500 Fastback 1044
        • 1968 GT500H (Hertz) Fastback 2
        • 1968 GT500 Convertible 402
        • 1968 GT500KR Fastback 1053
        • 1968 GT500KR Convertible 517
        • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Sportroof 935
        • 1969 GT350H (Hertz) Sportroof 152
        • 1969 and 1970 GT350 Convertible 194
        • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Sportroof 1534
          • 1969 and 1970 GT500 Convertible 335


        • in FACT here you go..as I wrote....so dont MISQUOTE me and make claims again..ZZ seriously Grow up...I did not attack you personally or claim you lacked intellignce...but yet you reply back with a post like this and make it personal..come on bro..I did not skip OR SHIP as you put it...comprehension...you are stating OPINIONS...and you are claiming them as FACTS as again you stated in this post....IN FACT you claim when the old fart dies the cars will be worth more but then throw in (IMO) then that is not a fact..that is an opinion..the original poster asked which would be worth more...you claimed when shelby dies...they will be worth more....all I stated to the original poster and you is based on what....his cars are mass produced...the 60's they were not....supply and demand...as someone else pointed out...allot of people are buying these cars with that same intention..so if they hang on to them long enough they will give them a decent ROI. so in todays society buying a vehicle as an investment is not the smartest choice...please zz....keep this professional....dont stoop to childish attacks against someone when they point out some obvious info and provide some facts...just because your opinion is different than mine...I did not go to your level of response...and guess what..THATS a FACT...by the way here is the post I put up...and please re-read so you can see the point I was making..bottom line..IMO modern day cars are not an investment for a ROI...invest in other things first....buy cars for your personal enjoyment...if they gain value...then you get a bonus...ZZ...relax dude...

          ZZmustang....first off no disprespect here....but before you rest your opinon on what you state that you have history on your side...read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made; 12 were race models; 36 were "R" models; 516 were street GT 350 models. These cars were all released by Carroll Shelby on January. 27, 1965. The price of the base Shelby's were about $4,000. They weren't quick and fast sellers, but they were bought by real car enthusiasts, which is who they were intended for in the first place.of those 562 original shelbys, it is believed only 100 or so are in existence and this is 42 years later. Thus the high price. as far as the follow up years to the launch...there are more and more models in existence but very few have there original equipment. the ones that warranted the higher price tags were the limited ones. and again it was 30-40++ years later...some original shelbys were auctioned On ebay but never sold as the sellers min bid was never met...some had the high buy...but again...that is based on a market that was more limited originally with numbers and as I stated earlier..you have to guarantee a higher demand with a dwindling product on the newer model (as the old model has done in 40 years ++)  2006 / 07 more than 7000 shelby gt500's were produced with plans for 3000-4000 more. so again, to my point to say that the product is going to go up in value is a falicy and to base it on history of the shelby is also not the bottom line. You have to have a shortage in these cars..so you are telling me that when Shelby dies...the product line will dwindle down all of the sudden...you dont think that 7000++ owners are thinking the same way?? so thus our quandry...plenty of supply....where is the demand,,,,I can go to 4 local ford dealers....each one has at least 1 shelby gt500 some 2 with 2 to 3 on the way with the 2008 model...supply is there..demand not as they would like....so with your theory..I guess those Dodge Daytona Shelby Z owners should hang on to their cars as well?? heck they have his name and will be worth a fortune right...again, not trying to argue with you here...but invest in a car.....again...it is PROVEN....it is NOT OPINION....is not the wisest investment.... buy the shelby..because you want the car....dont buy it with the expectation of a return on your investment...


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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:41:32 PM   
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          This is what you wrote
          "ZZmustang....first off no disprespect here....but before you rest your opinon on what you state that you have history on your side...read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made; "
          Now you tell me not to misquote you and you are so dumb you don't know what you wrote or can even read what you wrote.  Go back and read your crap DA. Stop talking to me , Your an Idiot. and Dodges are Sheit.
          You said """"Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made""" go read it .
          Shelby's suck, people buy them for an investment. because people like you think they are special.

          The " around a statement mean it's something someone said. They are called quotation marks.
          Go away from me.
          The 2007 Shelby's are going to be worth 100,000 when the piece of sh-t dies. I don't think they are worth sh-t .

          And by they, spell check works, you know.

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:44:59 PM   
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          zz...whatever..again you can read my post and it is underline above...I stated that the 562 shelbys were released in 1965...see above..whatever...you are childish...and internet tough..so enjoy your life..

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:47:05 PM   
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          I for one can honestly say I never considered my Shelby GT to be an investment.  I was actually looking to buy a BMW 335i in the near future.  I had read all about the Shelby
          GT's, and thought they looked beautiful in the photos I saw.  Then one day I went to my local Ford dealer for service on my Expedition and there was a Shelby GT in the showroom.  My jaw dropped and I knew that I had to have one of them.  Two weeks later, I did, and it thrills me every time I go into my garage and see it, and especially when I drive it.  What an awesome car. 

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:47:11 PM   
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          cheftjpeck
          This is what you wrote
          "ZZmustang....first off no disprespect here....but before you rest your opinon on what you state that you have history on your side...read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made; "
          Now you tell me not to misquoate you and you are so dumb you don't know what you wrote or can even read what you wrote.  Go back and read your crap DA. Stop talking to me , Your an Idiot. and Dodges are Sheit.
          You said """"Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made""" go read it .
          Shelby's suck, people buy them for an invesment. because people like you think they are special.

          The " around a statment mean it's something someone said. They are called quotation marks.
          Go away from me.
          The 2007 Shelby's are going to be worth 100,000 when the peice of sh-t dies. I don't think they are worth sh-t .

          agree on the dodges part...and yes i will stop talking to you...again,.was not trying to offend you or argue...but thats what you choose to do....enjoy your life ....increase your meds..and relax

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:48:53 PM   
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          You go read your underlined stuff. It doesn't say 1965 or any other year it says "Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made; "
           
          Read and stop talking to me

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:51:39 PM   
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          ORIGINAL: cheftjpeck

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          cheftjpeck
          First, I think ALL Shelby stuff is crapp. Back in 65 he made a car for the track that was good but. BFD , no one had one, the crap that was sold as a Shelby was just that. and now They are worth 20X + what it cost new. That will be the same for the 2007 Shelby. Some people may not think so. That’s their opinion.  A shelby is a good investment. Worth it as far as quality goes. NOT. Soon as the old fart dies , all those mustangs that had Shelby wrote on the glove box will be worth more. BTY. A new Shelby 1968 sold for around $5500, they go for around 100,000 now. I could have bought a 1968 AC Cobra 427 for $6000 off the dealer floor. Now they are $1,000,000+
          A 2007 Shelby will be sold for $100,000 very shortly. Invest  or not. That’s your opinion.
          Because you say a Shelby will not go up in value means the same as me saying that they will. The difference is I have history on my side.


          ZZmustang....first off no disprespect here....but before you rest your opinon on what you state that you have history on your side...read up on some facts...Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made; 12 were race models; 36 were "R" models; 516 were street GT 350 models. These cars were all released by Carroll Shelby on January. 27, 1965. The price of the base Shelby's were about $4,000. They weren't quick and fast sellers, but they were bought by real car enthusiasts, which is who they were intended for in the first place.of those 562 original shelbys, it is believed only 100 or so are in existence and this is 42 years later. Thus the high price. as far as the follow up years to the launch...there are more and more models in existence but very few have there original equipment. the ones that warranted the higher price tags were the limited ones. and again it was 30-40++ years later...some original shelbys were auctioned On ebay but never sold as the sellers min bid was never met...some had the high buy...but again...that is based on a market that was more limited originally with numbers and as I stated earlier..you have to guarantee a higher demand with a dwindling product on the newer model (as the old model has done in 40 years ++)  2006 / 07 more than 7000 shelby gt500's were produced with plans for 3000-4000 more. so again, to my point to say that the product is going to go up in value is a falicy and to base it on history of the shelby is also not the bottom line. You have to have a shortage in these cars..so you are telling me that when Shelby dies...the product line will dwindle down all of the sudden...you dont think that 7000++ owners are thinking the same way?? so thus our quandry...plenty of supply....where is the demand,,,,I can go to 4 local ford dealers....each one has at least 1 shelby gt500 some 2 with 2 to 3 on the way with the 2008 model...supply is there..demand not as they would like....so with your theory..I guess those Dodge Daytona Shelby Z owners should hang on to their cars as well?? heck they have his name and will be worth a fortune right...again, not trying to argue with you here...but invest in a car.....again...it is PROVEN....it is NOT OPINION....is not the wisest investment.... buy the shelby..because you want the car....dont buy it with the expectation of a return on your investment...

          strictly reposting for reminders...as you can see the statement made by another poster was using 1965 shelby as his evidence...I just replied with the 1965 stats...so all of this was based on what...one poster attacking while the other one did not agree with their opinion...thats what makes this country great...Have a great day and a happy 4th

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:53:24 PM   
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          You go read your underlined stuff. It doesn't say 1965 or any other year it says "Only 562 Shelby Mustangs were made; "
           
          Read and stop talking to me


          read again.....its called paragraphs and sentence structure....immediately following the period of one sentence .no where in my sentence is there quotes that are open or closed...you are adding them...so read your self..

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 6:56:43 PM   
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          Whatever, Dude, who F-en cares. Shelby's suck and so do you, hows that.

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          RE: what is going to be worth more 2007 shelby or 2008? - 7/4/2007 7:01:43 PM   
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          Mean while back to the original question . I would like to believe the 1st year run would be a little more desireable

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