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crashbug
07-03-2007, 05:11 PM
I was at a dealer and I saw a Shelby GT. I wondering if anyone had any onfo on this car. I'm looking to trade my 04 mustang in and was wanting a GT. I noticed the shelby GT was priced a bit higher, but not as high as the 500. does anyone thing these are good cars or would you stick with a regular GT.

mac10chap
07-03-2007, 05:31 PM
shelby GT is basically a regular GT with about 30 more HP, a different body kit, and shelby badges...all this for about $10,000 - $12,000 more. nice cars but not worth that much more money to me. to some, just the shelby name is worth that much

Mikes_BLK_GT
07-03-2007, 05:47 PM
ORIGINAL: mac10chap

shelby GT is basically a regular GT with about 30 more HP, a different body kit, and shelby badges...all this for about $10,000 - $12,000 more. nice cars but not worth that much more money to me. to some, just the shelby name is worth that much


+1 I agree unless your deadset on the shelby name just buy a regular GT.

crashbug
07-03-2007, 05:58 PM
thanks.

acascianelli
07-03-2007, 06:07 PM
ORIGINAL: mac10chap

shelby GT is basically a regular GT with about 30 more HP, a different body kit, and shelby badges...all this for about $10,000 - $12,000 more. nice cars but not worth that much more money to me. to some, just the shelby name is worth that much


Only 20 more HP and a slightly upgraded suspension. Unless you plan on the car being in a collection, not worth it. You can get more power out of a standard GT with a good tune and intake. The FRPP intake and tune are very conservative.

mustangman2424
07-03-2007, 06:13 PM
You pay for the Shelby name and that is basically it.

For $600 you could get a CAI and a Tune for a regular GT and you will have more power than the Shelby already.

thxultra
07-03-2007, 06:16 PM
unless you want it for collector reasons get a regular gt and some mods. You will be able to get much more power with mods for less $$.

acascianelli
07-03-2007, 06:19 PM
Hell, for the price of a Shelby GT you could get a GT Deluxe and supercharge it.

s197richie
07-03-2007, 06:21 PM
ORIGINAL: Mikes_BLK_GT

ORIGINAL: mac10chap

shelby GT is basically a regular GT with about 30 more HP, a different body kit, and shelby badges...all this for about $10,000 - $12,000 more. nice cars but not worth that much more money to me. to some, just the shelby name is worth that much


+1 I agree unless your deadset on the shelby name just buy a regular GT.


+1 buy a GT, take the extra dough and do your own mods...the money will go MUCH further...
P.S. S197 > SN95...do it!!

eddieval5
07-03-2007, 06:24 PM
Well...according to the Ford Racing Performance Parts website...the GT-H is a GT with the following options:

Power Upgrade Package...$889
Handling Package...$1,149
Race Rear Brake Pads x2...$410
Performance X-Pipe...$139

So about a total of $2587 for the "performance" additions. Add in $360 for the Ford Racing Stripes and a bit more for the grill/decorations and you have about a 3k package before the 10 man hours (per latest Motor Trend) to convert a GT to a GT-H. I wonder how this rough estimation will translate into real world cost.

I'd rather see an inbetween of the GT and GT500. Call it a GT350 or Boss.

torch red
07-03-2007, 06:35 PM
The Shelby GT is a joke......

319 HP to be exact....Over priced....

A good CAI and tune and you better then that..

not worth it..

hammeron
07-03-2007, 06:38 PM
don't waste your money on a basic ford mustang GT, get
the SHELBY and drive around with pride




ORIGINAL: crashbug

I was at a dealer and I saw a Shelby GT. I wondering if anyone had any onfo on this car. I'm looking to trade my 04 mustang in and was wanting a GT. I noticed the shelby GT was priced a bit higher, but not as high as the 500. does anyone thing these are good cars or would you stick with a regular GT.

EmperorOfChicken
07-03-2007, 06:50 PM
carrol shelby was interviewd saying the car makes 325-330 hp, but due to ford they just listed it lower. its not a straightline car, but handling car. SCCA and all taht ****. and, more than anything, its a shelby. if you plan on selling it in the future you will get your money back. but its not for everyone, some people just dont get it. do what you want, im getting a shelby gt, some think im crazy.

acascianelli
07-03-2007, 06:56 PM
From a performance standpoint, there is nothing on the Shelby GT that you can't order from FRPP and have installed on a standard GT. And as for being a better handling car, I'd put money on either a Roush or Saleen Mustang with the same power in a handling match.

But in 20+ years, I'm sure a Shelby GT will fetch more money than a regular Mustang GT.

SonicBlue05GT
07-03-2007, 06:57 PM
it will hold it's value better than the base GT, don't forget that.

ilmor
07-03-2007, 08:07 PM
Somecan say what they want about a Shelby GT, but I absolutely love mine. I won't badmouth the GT's in comparison to a Shelby GTin my response, like some GT owners badmouth the Shelby GT. Either they don't get it or they don't want to, and that's fine. The car is about much morethan a simple sum of its parts. Time will tell, but over the long term I believe that the Shelby GT will hold its value much better than a GT. Personally, I plan to keep mine for many years just to find out!

Some added info in case you don't know; The Shelby GT's begins life as a GT at the Michigan Ford plant; from there they are shipped to Shelby American in Las Vegas, where they are converted by Shelby personnel into the Shelby GT and briefly road tested. Then they are shipped by closed-carried to the various dealers or directly toowners. Owner's may also special-order Shelby GT's to include other items such as specialized braking systems and superchargers. GT 500's, oddly enough,never see the Shelby headquarters; they are entirely manufactured in Michigan.

s197richie
07-03-2007, 09:34 PM
ORIGINAL: hammeron

don't waste your money on a basic ford mustang GT, get
the SHELBY and drive around with pride



would you care to elaborate?

Gene K
07-03-2007, 10:10 PM
One 2007 GT-D w/ 3.55 Axle at $24,000 Street Price($26,540 MSRP) + Roush 427R Pkg $15,599 at list.

415 bhp as shipped and 427 bhp with Off-Road Exhaust installed for $39,599.

Best buy in a Showroom Supercar unless you can get a GT500 at MSRP.

ilmor
07-03-2007, 10:13 PM
ORIGINAL: Gene K

One 2007 GT-D w/ 3.55 Axle at $24,000 Street Price($26,540 MSRP) + Roush 427R Pkg $15,599 at list.

415 bhp as shipped and 427 bhp with Off-Road Exhaust installed for $39,599.

Best buy in a Showroom Supercar unless you can get a GT500 at MSRP.


Your personal opinion is appreciated...but...its a Roush, not a Shelby.

redcobrasc
07-04-2007, 03:23 AM
Hey ilmor dont let them get to you, I find myself having to defend my Cobra (MSRP, performance, looks, resale value or something else.) all the time. What really succs is that their all Mustang owners.

Orion_240
07-04-2007, 04:42 AM
as usual there are the normal amount of misinformed posters out here so let's address some of those (names withheld):

You can't buy listing in the Shelby Registry for a plain GT or one you mod.
The Shelby GT is a collector's car that could be worth MSRP or more years from now. That Mustang GT you throw all those aftermarket parts and labor into, to make it faster than the Shelby... well they won't help. In a few years your car will have depreciated at least 20%.

And for those who do the parts addition it would help if they counted the $1000+ extra for new 18" Black Bullitts, front and rear facias, floor mats, badges, etc. And all the labor costs.

Basically, people are comparing the Shelby to a regular Mustang and it is like comparing a McD's hamburger to Kobe beef!


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Black GT
07-04-2007, 05:06 AM
ORIGINAL: Orion_240

as usual there are the normal amount of misinformed posters out here so let's address some of those (names withheld):

You can't buy listing in the Shelby Registry for a plain GT or one you mod.
The Shelby GT is a collector's car that could be worth MSRP or more years from now. That Mustang GT you throw all those aftermarket parts and labor into, to make it faster than the Shelby... well they won't help. In a few years your car will have depreciated at least 20%.

And for those who do the parts addition it would help if they counted the $1000+ extra for new 18" Black Bullitts, front and rear facias, floor mats, badges, etc. And all the labor costs.

Basically, people are comparing the Shelby to a regular Mustang and it is like comparing a McD's hamburger to Kobe beef!


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They won't help what? It all depends on what the buyer wants the car for. If you want to buy a GT for a lot less and make it faster than a Shelby, then yes, it will most definitely help. If you want to buy a car for more money based on the Shelby name, or to join a Shelby listing, then certainly it won't help. It all depends on your goal. As for depreciation, cars historically are not good investements. The stock market has much better potential if that is your goal.

Buy whatever makes you happy based on what you really want. [sm=smiley1.gif]

D_Gusler
07-04-2007, 01:52 PM
The Shelby GT that we got in was a complete crab. Stripes didn't line up, they were arount a 1/4" short from the windshield. The billet grille was bent, upper stut tower brace was bent.

It just looked like the shop idiots put it together.

I did like the black wheels though----------considering putting them on mine.

platnumheart666
07-04-2007, 02:06 PM
I seriously thought about the Shelby GT, for collector purchase etc. But when you think about it not only will you have a car that you won't want to put too much wear and tear on, thus not enjoy as much you will most likely not be willing to do any mods you like as to not defer from its "SHELBY" value. Don't get me wrong, I love the Shelbys but how much will they really be worth in your lifetime. Hell, the GT 500 in my area are being marked up 85K on top of the 45,k MSRP for a grand total of 130k! How many lifetimes to pull a profit? If its just for investment there are alot better LT and ST investments ranging from the bullion market and stocks to realty. Now if its a Shelby you want and will enjoy and give a F$#%k less about modding than by all means go get one.

2007GT/CS
07-04-2007, 02:39 PM
ORIGINAL: Orion_240
Basically, people are comparing the Shelby to a regular Mustang and it is like comparing a McD's hamburger to Kobe beef!


It's more like comparing a McD's hamburger to a cheeseburger wrapped in a TiffanyCo. box for $8,000 (plus the cost of the original burger), patting yourself on the back because*you* have a Tiffany Burger. Woot! But wait... now the counter guy wants you to pay him an additional $10K because of its 'rarity'.

Hopefully, the box, signed by Ronald McDonald will prove wonderfully collectable even though they are making thousands (and assuming you don't molest the burger).

To the OP:

1. The Shelby GT is a really nice looking car. It's got a lot of the FRPP goodies on it plus the cache of being 'a Shelby'. A lady I work with is getting a white one this week and she's really excited about parking it in the garage and looking at it :)

2. For what it is - it's expensive - Shelby Corp is doing it's same ol same ol and whoring out the name (like what they did with Mopar in the 80's). Shelby has contributed nothing to the performance science of the S197. On top of this - stealerships are adding ridiculous ADMs to the cars, again cashing in for doing nothing.

3. Investment potential - dubious. Especially when you factor in the ADM.

Ilmor and Eddy will feel oblidged to defend their purchase the minute anyone either questions why you would spend this kind of money for the Shelby GT or someone asks about putting a 'Powered by Ford' badge on their car. Guys - no one (that I've seen anway) is bashing the car itself.

OP - If you like it and have the extra money, why not?

07GTEddy
07-04-2007, 02:41 PM
ORIGINAL: ilmor

Somecan say what they want about a Shelby GT, but I absolutely love mine. I won't badmouth the GT's in comparison to a Shelby GTin my response, like some GT owners badmouth the Shelby GT. Either they don't get it or they don't want to, and that's fine. The car is about much morethan a simple sum of its parts. Time will tell, but over the long term I believe that the Shelby GT will hold its value much better than a GT. Personally, I plan to keep mine for many years just to find out!

Some added info in case you don't know; The Shelby GT's begins life as a GT at the Michigan Ford plant; from there they are shipped to Shelby American in Las Vegas, where they are converted by Shelby personnel into the Shelby GT and briefly road tested. Then they are shipped by closed-carried to the various dealers or directly toowners. Owner's may also special-order Shelby GT's to include other items such as specialized braking systems and superchargers. GT 500's, oddly enough,never see the Shelby headquarters; they are entirely manufactured in Michigan.




+1


Keep in mind ilmore,

Its the same fire starters and bashers every other week so i don't even bother anymore,

Like it , Great!

Don't like it, Don't care!

Drive and buy what"YOU" want and hopefully be happy with "YOUR" decision.

Thats what I and others did, I'm not looking back.

One thing i have noticed though, Seems to be alot of Gt owners Bagging on the Shelby Gt's but, you don't see any Shelby Gt people Baggin the other? Whats up with that?[sm=WTFsgign.gif]

Oh well , Enjoy this life, its the only one you have! ;)

Gene K
07-04-2007, 03:31 PM
ORIGINAL: eddieval5

So about a total of $2587 for the "performance" additions. Add in $360 for the Ford Racing Stripes and a bit more for the grill/decorations and you have about a 3k package before the 10 man hours (per latest Motor Trend) to convert a GT to a GT-H. I wonder how this rough estimation will translate into real world cost.



Well in all fairness they start as pretty well optioned cars and there is the extra transportation cost ($745?) to get it to Shelbys Plant for conversion. I dont think theShelby GT is a badcar. As a matter of fact its a great car for SCCA Solo I. Should be the dominant car in its class.

Gene K
07-04-2007, 03:41 PM
Why is eveyone here so defensive about their cars? If someone told me he had rather have a Nissan 350Z or a Subaru WRX than a GT I dont take that as an affront. Each to his own.

If you are buying a car as an investment you certainly dont buy new automobiles.

PS Im not anti-Shelby. I owned a 1968 GT350 at one point.

kodos78
09-19-2007, 10:45 AM
I agree, the investment argument is dubious at best. The HP war continues unabated, and the cars are getting better engineered all the time. I do think that the Shelby GT is a bit overpriced for what you get as well. It's sad that dealers are getting people into Shelby GTs for about the same price that the GT500 was envisioned!

All of that being said, I think the Shelby GT looks great, and is a good all around package. Not my cup of tea perhaps (mostly being that I won't pay an ADM and I'd feel odd modding it at all), but I saw a couple driving one on the freeway the other day. It definitely is a head turner!

jamie392
09-19-2007, 11:50 AM
I don't think people are trying to bad-mouth the "Shelby GT" I think they are just saying if you do not care about the Shelby name by astandard GT. I live here in Vegas and have been out to the plant numerou times, they are making the "Super-Snake package here, becuase I was there when they brought it out. They are also doing there own mod-shop for CS-6 and CS-8 conversions.

Orion_240
09-19-2007, 01:41 PM
ORIGINAL: eddieval5

Well...according to the Ford Racing Performance Parts website...the GT-H is a GT with the following options:

Power Upgrade Package...$889
Handling Package...$1,149
Race Rear Brake Pads x2...$410
Performance X-Pipe...$139

So about a total of $2587 for the "performance" additions. Add in $360 for the Ford Racing Stripes and a bit more for the grill/decorations and you have about a 3k package before the 10 man hours (per latest Motor Trend) to convert a GT to a GT-H. I wonder how this rough estimation will translate into real world cost.

I'd rather see an inbetween of the GT and GT500. Call it a GT350 or Boss.


Full parts list:



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STORMEASTON
09-19-2007, 03:25 PM
Here it is in a nutshell.................................Shelby GT,only a select few will own them, Mustang GT any knucklehead can own one, and then become a "poser" by adding badges.

ilmor
09-19-2007, 05:42 PM
I just came back from a drive. I love my Shelby GT!!!! That's all I'm gonna say. :)

07GTEddy
09-19-2007, 07:21 PM
ORIGINAL: ilmor

I just came back from a drive. I love my Shelby GT!!!! That's all I'm gonna say. :)


I hear ya man...............:)

Dennis074.0
09-28-2007, 08:48 PM
just like the 60's Shelby 'Stangs the Shelby GT was not meant for straight line performance rather road courses. When you buy a SGT you buy a piece of mustang history....hell you buy a piece ofAUTO history!!

You can mod the SGT, when you order it (or you can bring it in to SAI) they can put on headers, a paxton 1200 or whipple supercharger, GT500 exhaust, more handling parts, wheels, and anyother performance and visual mod they have (go to shelbyautos.com and go to shopping) all without voiding your warranty!!!

I'm getting my 08' SGT brand new for 29k and to be honest even if I did have to pay the ADM at 44k I'd still buy it.

You can mod your mustang anyway you want, and people will turn and look at it as you drive by, and say "wow thats a nice mustang" BUT they will never say "holy shyt was that a shelby??" then turn there car around and follow it.

07GTEddy
09-28-2007, 09:17 PM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

just like the 60's Shelby 'Stangs the Shelby GT was not meant for straight line performance rather road courses. When you buy a SGT you buy a piece of mustang history....hell you buy a piece ofAUTO history!!

You can mod the SGT, when you order it (or you can bring it in to SAI) they can put on headers, a paxton 1200 or whipple supercharger, GT500 exhaust, more handling parts, wheels, and anyother performance and visual mod they have (go to shelbyautos.com and go to shopping) all without voiding your warranty!!!

I'm getting my 08' SGT brand new for 29k and to be honest even if I did have to pay the ADM at 44k I'd still buy it.

You can mod your mustang anyway you want, and people will turn and look at it as you drive by, and say "wow thats a nice mustang" BUT they will never say "holy shyt was that a shelby??" then turn there car around and follow it.



So,

You are getting an 08 Shelby Gtfor the price of a premium mustang Gt?

Who's paying for SAI's contribution and the GG tax that comes with it?


"BUT they will never say "holy shyt was that a shelby??" then turn around and follow it"

Ah,

Yes they will, well at least where i live. It has happened on 3 different occasion's sinced i have ownedmy Shelby(March of this year) and i'm bettin, it will happen again....:D

Dennis074.0
09-28-2007, 09:47 PM
ORIGINAL: 07GTEddy

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

just like the 60's Shelby 'Stangs the Shelby GT was not meant for straight line performance rather road courses. When you buy a SGT you buy a piece of mustang history....hell you buy a piece ofAUTO history!!

You can mod the SGT, when you order it (or you can bring it in to SAI) they can put on headers, a paxton 1200 or whipple supercharger, GT500 exhaust, more handling parts, wheels, and anyother performance and visual mod they have (go to shelbyautos.com and go to shopping) all without voiding your warranty!!!

I'm getting my 08' SGT brand new for 29k and to be honest even if I did have to pay the ADM at 44k I'd still buy it.

You can mod your mustang anyway you want, and people will turn and look at it as you drive by, and say "wow thats a nice mustang" BUT they will never say "holy shyt was that a shelby??" then turn there car around and follow it.



So,

You are getting an 08 Shelby Gtfor the price of a premium mustang Gt?

Who's paying for SAI's contribution and the GG tax that comes with it?


"BUT they will never say "holy shyt was that a shelby??" then turn around and follow it"

Ah,

Yes they will, well at least where i live. It has happened on 3 different occasion's sinced i have ownedmy Shelby(March of this year) and i'm bettin, it will happen again....:D


You misunderstood that, the people will never say that about a regular GT, only a Shelby.
I was at a car show about a month ago and a guy with an 07' black SGT was coming out at the end of the show, and right outside the park was a school zone where you can only go 20mph in. as he was driving through people were pulling into gas stations and parking lots to watch it go by.

The dealership gives police officers who work in the dealerships sector invoice price on ALL cars. I went in a couple days ago to look ata white 07' SGT and we crunched the numbers and I was told I could have it for 29k. I told him I wanted to wait for the 08's and put about 10k down, and he said no problem.
Quite frankly I dont care who pays for the shelby parts because it aint me!!

07GTEddy
09-28-2007, 09:50 PM
Call you mister lucky!!!:D

Think of all that Mod money you have now...............;)

Dennis074.0
09-28-2007, 09:57 PM
I was told about this by another cop in a different pct. he bought a GT and an explorer the same day for invoice price and both were fully loaded!! after passing a ford dealership in my pct. for months looking for an SGT I finally found one this week, and as he told me about the deal I swear I got a woody as I was sitting there!! I was so excited I went back to show my partner the car (while we were on duty) and the salesman tried to sell him a roush (he couldnt give that for invoice but I think he kept saying like 35k or something like that....I was too busy looking at the SGT to listen to their conversation:D

Dennis074.0
09-28-2007, 09:58 PM
these are the mods I'm getting for the SGT

Shelby Arm Rest
Shelby Head Rests
Shelby Map Light Accents
Shelby Floor Mats
Shelby Underhood Dress Up
JBA Headers
18x9 Chrome Shelby Razor Wheels

07GTEddy
09-29-2007, 11:59 AM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

these are the mods I'm getting for the SGT

Shelby Arm Rest
Shelby Head Rests
Shelby Map Light Accents
Shelby Floor Mats
Shelby Underhood Dress Up
JBA Headers
18x9 Chrome Shelby Razor Wheels


Are you having them ship the take off parts back to you?

Stuff sounds cool. Pic's when you get it!!

Dennis074.0
09-29-2007, 05:02 PM
I'm definately having the parts shipped back.

how long does it usually take to have the mods put on the car down at SAI?

ODDYSEY
09-29-2007, 05:26 PM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

Now I'm buying an 08' Shelby and leaving it stock.....except the shelby interior, and underhood dress up parts.:D



ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

these are the mods I'm getting for the SGT

Shelby Arm Rest
Shelby Head Rests
Shelby Map Light Accents
Shelby Floor Mats
Shelby Underhood Dress Up
JBA Headers
18x9 Chrome Shelby Razor Wheels


Hahaha! You can never get away from the mod bug...

Dennis074.0
09-29-2007, 05:45 PM
damn you caught me.

up until last night I was going to leave it stock, then I went on the shelby website and I was like a kid in the candy store "ooohh I want this...and that...oohh oohh that too...woowwww thats cool Im gonna get that too!"

haha.
besides is it really a mod if I have shelby autos do it?? ehh maybe. lol.

Dennis074.0
09-29-2007, 05:46 PM
what gears does the SGT (manual)come with? is it 3.55's or 3.73's

ilmor
09-29-2007, 06:02 PM
3:55's

07GTEddy
09-29-2007, 06:10 PM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

I'm definately having the parts shipped back.

how long does it usually take to have the mods put on the car down at SAI?


You would be better off contacting SAI and see where they are at and they will give you an estimate of the number of cars ahead of you.......

Dennis074.0
09-29-2007, 06:48 PM
3.55's you mean to tell me SAI couldnt shell out the extra $200 for 3.73's...good grief....how do you like the 3.55's?

I'll give SAI a call when I get closer to buying it.

ilmor
09-29-2007, 08:16 PM
I think the 3:55's are perfect, but opinions vary of course. Personally I would not want 3:73's or lower gearing since first gear is already low enough for street use in my opinion.

Legion5
09-29-2007, 08:25 PM
ORIGINAL: eddieval5

Well...according to the Ford Racing Performance Parts website...the GT-H is a GT with the following options:

Power Upgrade Package...$889
Handling Package...$1,149
Race Rear Brake Pads x2...$410
Performance X-Pipe...$139

So about a total of $2587 for the "performance" additions. Add in $360 for the Ford Racing Stripes and a bit more for the grill/decorations and you have about a 3k package before the 10 man hours (per latest Motor Trend) to convert a GT to a GT-H. I wonder how this rough estimation will translate into real world cost.

I'd rather see an inbetween of the GT and GT500. Call it a GT350 or Boss.


Keep in mind the C/S kit is included with the Shelby GT plus all of the other doodads like functional hood pins and plaques and sil plates According to the various websites (mostly what you can get off Shelby Preformance Parts already) these are worth about $2500 with the bulk of the charge going to the C/S kit and the nice wheels.

The pack last I remember was $11,500 not 12,000.

So that's $5500 plus $700 for good labor. In the end you have a car with 50 more or whatever HP, and a name plate that costs $5000. It would be FAR more economical to make your own shelby clone, and put a $5000 supercharger in it (factory option in 08).

If however you look at it from an investment standpoint, the Shelby GT should be a better investment than a GT, so you should get that $5000 right back out when you are done with the car. In theory.

In my oppinion though you are really just blowing a grand or two when you are done with everything. Leasing however might be a whole other story, because if they stand by their claims that this is an investment/collector car, then they should also offer killer leases on it.

Anyway I'd take that sort of viewpoint to Ford Finance then see what they say, in the end if a name makes you happy then go for it, for me a supercharger would please me wayy more... :)

Edit: if they are SERIOUSLY charging $7900 for the shelby pack as the window sticker in the previous post on page 2 indicates (last I remember it was $11,500), then that is a HUGE steal if the C/S pack is already included.

Dennis074.0
09-29-2007, 09:32 PM
we are shelby fanatics!! its really all about the name and history behind it that counts.
you are more into performance and we are into the heritage.

07GTEddy
09-30-2007, 12:21 AM
ORIGINAL: ilmor

I think the 3:55's are perfect, but opinions vary of course. Personally I would not want 3:73's or lower gearing since first gear is already low enough for street use in my opinion.


I would agree with this for sure. The 3.55's are perfect for the street. But,

If you plan on seeing some track time, Road or strip, i would be thinking more like 4.10's unless you go with the S/C then 3.73's.:)

Hi ilmor.......................;)

Dennis074.0
09-30-2007, 11:34 AM
nah I'm not racing this baby!

EmperorOfChicken
09-30-2007, 12:14 PM
Well I am, so i might get me some 3.73s to go with that novi 1200:D

johnnyv8
09-30-2007, 04:56 PM
I love both the shelby gt and shelby GT500, but as fair as the shelby gt. Its not a bang for the buck car, its just not. You get it cuz its a shelby, & people are going to gawk at it all the time :)

If your looking into a bang for ur buck stang, look at roush or saleen. I would say the GT500 would be the best bang for ur buck if it was at msrp...once again, its a shelby.

My only real problem w/ the shelby gt for the money is there just not enough. i think some upgrade brakes w/ a sc for about 39Gmsrp would be a car(come on ford/shelby, i know u guys can do it).

I just want to say once again, i love the shelbys alot! and would take one in a heart beat. but if the name didnt mean anything to me, i would look else were for my money spent, period.

07GTEddy
09-30-2007, 09:08 PM
ORIGINAL: redcobrasc

Hey ilmor dont let them get to you, I find myself having to defend my Cobra (MSRP, performance, looks, resale value or something else.) all the time. What really succs is that their all Mustang owners.



LOL, Nothing new there!

There will always be a handfull that just gota tell you why they would not buy one for what ever reason.Your never going to see the end of it. it's just a few and the opinions don't mean crap because everybody's got one. They just don't get it and never will, but, thats ok. Give it about another week to 2 weeks and their will be a new thread about the comparison and how they did not buy because of this or that and we will rehash another thread. Never ending Shelby cycle. After owning my Shelby Gt, I could never go back to a regular no frills Gt. I would have to put to much money into it to get it the way my shelby is now and the car would just not be a Shelby Package. Key word being "Package" Not just a sume of parts but the whole "Package".:D


LOL:D

Dennis074.0
09-30-2007, 09:18 PM
"There will always be a handfull that just gota tell you why they would not buy one for what ever reason."

they try to justify why they didnt get one. its usually the same person that secretly drools over the SGT or GT500

07GTEddy
09-30-2007, 09:21 PM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

"There will always be a handfull that just gota tell you why they would not buy one for what ever reason."

they try to justify why they didnt get one. its usually the same person that secretly drools over the SGT or GT500



LOL:D

The Secret Drooler's Society..........................


or


SDS Syndrome

Dennis074.0
10-01-2007, 09:15 AM
hahaha.

Do you secretly drool over Shelbys, and do not let anyone know your love for them? Do you try to justify not owning a shelby even though you really want one? Do you voice your opinion on the weakness of the shelby automobiles?

Then you may be suffering from SDS, and with a couple saved dollars you may be able to cure yourself.
Call your local ford dealer for the Shelby right for you.

(possible side effects may include, but not limited to: Pissing yourself at high speeds, Getting unwanted panties thrown at your car, everlasting grin from ear to ear, and may possibly bring out other victims of SDS)

hahahaha.

07GTEddy
10-01-2007, 09:20 AM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

hahaha.

Do you secretly drool over Shelbys, and do not let anyone know your love for them? Do you try to justify not owning a shelby even though you really want one? Do you voice your opinion on the weakness of the shelby automobiles?

Then you may be suffering from SDS, and with a couple saved dollars you may be able to cure yourself.
Call your local ford dealer for the Shelby right for you.

(possible side effects may include, but not limited to: Pissing yourself at high speeds, Getting unwanted panties thrown at your car, everlasting grin from ear to ear, and may possibly bring out other victims of SDS)

hahahaha.



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STORMEASTON
10-02-2007, 09:30 AM
Like I said before..........Shelby GT.....only a select few will own them, Mustang GT..........any ding dong can own one, and then bash Shelby's because they don't have one and they sport a small penis.

07GTEddy
10-02-2007, 09:33 AM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

nah I'm not racing this baby!


Yeah, Right..............:D

07GTEddy
10-02-2007, 09:35 AM
ORIGINAL: STORMEASTON

Like I said before..........Shelby GT.....only a select few will own them, Mustang GT..........any ding dong can own one, and then bash Shelby's because they don't have one and they sport a small penis.



LOL:D


That is too funny!!!:D

Dennis074.0
10-02-2007, 10:18 AM
ORIGINAL: 07GTEddy

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

nah I'm not racing this baby!


Yeah, Right..............:D


If I keep telling myself I wont, then maybe I wont.....right.
Anyway it wont matter whether I want to or not, there is no drag strip by me.

Sam Strano
10-02-2007, 01:50 PM
Um, I own a GT, and I autocross a Shelby. I like both cars very, very much. Yes, you can buy a GT and put the parts (or other parts) on it, but it's not a Shelby. And as has been pointed out, only the Shelby GT is a "real" Shelby, the GT500 is not. The car I drive is number 450. Yes, it cost about $38k out the door. $1000 of that was gas-guzzler tax that a normal GT doesn't pay. My GT was about $24k out the door. I could make my GT the same thing, or even faster for far less money. But my GT doesn't get looks like the Shelby does, and will never has the resale value either.

Bottom line, you have options. Pick your poison.

07GTEddy
10-02-2007, 02:03 PM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

ORIGINAL: 07GTEddy

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

nah I'm not racing this baby!


Yeah, Right..............:D


If I keep telling myself I wont, then maybe I wont.....right.
Anyway it wont matter whether I want to or not, there is no drag strip by me.


Mybe see if there is any autocross stuff happening around you? It's also a blast!;)

Sam Strano
10-02-2007, 02:15 PM
Yeah, go autocrossing. The Shelby and certain GT's are very competitive. F-stock @ Solo Nationals was stacked with Shelby's (I won, woo-hoo). I think '06+ GT's with 3.55's are competitive because you can run the 18" wheels, and they actually slalom better. Shelby's sweeper better. 6 of one, half-dozen of the other. The power difference is really not an issue as it's quite small.

I like seeing cars like this being used for what they are meant to do. I hate when you see a Shelby GT or a Z06 just being driven around. It's a waste of a great performing car. And you can find an autocross about anywhere you live. Pay your $25, drive as hard as you want and get to use some of the handling the car offers.

Dennis074.0
10-02-2007, 03:20 PM
Theres actually an autocross about 15 minutes away from me.....thanks guy, now I'll be racing her......

with friends like these who needs enemy's?? lol.

07GTEddy
10-02-2007, 07:18 PM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

Theres actually an autocross about 15 minutes away from me.....thanks guy, now I'll be racing her......

with friends like these who needs enemy's?? lol.


See, I told ya!!:)


Live the life you have, It's the only one you've got!:D

Dennis074.0
10-02-2007, 08:11 PM
gentlemen start your engines varooom varooomm.


Hows the wear and tear on the cars, do you have any problems?

07GTEddy
10-02-2007, 08:57 PM
ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

gentlemen start your engines varooom varooomm.


Hows the wear and tear on the cars, do you have any problems?



8000 on mine and only the rear tires are showing signs of any wear.............:D

Dennis074.0
10-03-2007, 10:47 AM
not bad.
I'd be afraid of someone crashing into it.

It must remind you of how things were in the 60's when GT350's were all over the tracks and whooping a$$.

s2k
10-03-2007, 12:57 PM
The shelbys look great in person. They really catch you eye.

ilmor
10-03-2007, 05:55 PM
ORIGINAL: s2k

The shelbys look great in person. They really catch you eye.


I got three "thumbs up" from other drivers the last two days...one guy in a Porsche, another in a BMW and the third in a Taurus.....

gearhed289
10-04-2007, 01:53 PM
I was initially unimpressed with the Shelby GT. Then I was driving home from a gig in Michigan and a black one rolled by me on the left. It looked damn good! Now that I've read more of the details, I'm really getting the hots for one. They've basically already done everything I would do to a GT. I know I could get it all done for less, but in the long run, resale value will NO DOUBT be higher on a stock SGT than a modded GT. And it's a SHELBY! Plus, turns out that a friend of a very good friend of mine owns a couple of local Ford stores. They've got a white '07 SGT, and a couple of black ones. If I can get the right deal, that white one is MINE! Otherwise, I'll probably be ordering a Vista Blue GT Premium..... Great cars all around.

ilmor
10-04-2007, 06:25 PM
Glad to see that you have been converted, Gearhed!! [8D]

johnnyv8
10-05-2007, 10:28 AM
ORIGINAL: gearhed289

I was initially unimpressed with the Shelby GT. Then I was driving home from a gig in Michigan and a black one rolled by me on the left. It looked damn good! Now that I've read more of the details, I'm really getting the hots for one. They've basically already done everything I would do to a GT. I know I could get it all done for less, but in the long run, resale value will NO DOUBT be higher on a stock SGT than a modded GT. And it's a SHELBY! Plus, turns out that a friend of a very good friend of mine owns a couple of local Ford stores. They've got a white '07 SGT, and a couple of black ones. If I can get the right deal, that white one is MINE! Otherwise, I'll probably be ordering a Vista Blue GT Premium..... Great cars all around.


+2, go for it!

07GTEddy
10-07-2007, 11:59 AM
ORIGINAL: johnnyv8

ORIGINAL: gearhed289

I was initially unimpressed with the Shelby GT. Then I was driving home from a gig in Michigan and a black one rolled by me on the left. It looked damn good! Now that I've read more of the details, I'm really getting the hots for one. They've basically already done everything I would do to a GT. I know I could get it all done for less, but in the long run, resale value will NO DOUBT be higher on a stock SGT than a modded GT. And it's a SHELBY! Plus, turns out that a friend of a very good friend of mine owns a couple of local Ford stores. They've got a white '07 SGT, and a couple of black ones. If I can get the right deal, that white one is MINE! Otherwise, I'll probably be ordering a Vista Blue GT Premium..... Great cars all around.


+2, go for it!


+3

wmtheflash
10-07-2007, 05:10 PM
ORIGINAL: 07GTEddy

ORIGINAL: johnnyv8

ORIGINAL: gearhed289

I was initially unimpressed with the Shelby GT. Then I was driving home from a gig in Michigan and a black one rolled by me on the left. It looked damn good! Now that I've read more of the details, I'm really getting the hots for one. They've basically already done everything I would do to a GT. I know I could get it all done for less, but in the long run, resale value will NO DOUBT be higher on a stock SGT than a modded GT. And it's a SHELBY! Plus, turns out that a friend of a very good friend of mine owns a couple of local Ford stores. They've got a white '07 SGT, and a couple of black ones. If I can get the right deal, that white one is MINE! Otherwise, I'll probably be ordering a Vista Blue GT Premium..... Great cars all around.


+2, go for it!


+3


-1...for now.

Take a peak on Auto Trader. I found several lightly used GT-500's here are the prices of just a few:

$49.9k
$49.5k
$48.5k
$47.9k
$45.6k

A quick search on Autotrader.com found two used Shelby GT's, both with extremely low each one $35k. I found at least a half a dozen that were in the upper $30k range.

Point being, the price on the Shelby GT's and GT-500's are coming down. There are plenty of dealers that still want Corvette prices for a Shelby GT, but a quick check on the internet found many that are getting close to MSRP. Remember, even though it's a real Shelby (I guess I'm too young to care about the name), it's still just a Mustang GT at heart.

Hang on for a few months or a year and you might be paying as much for a used GT-500 as others are paying for a Shelby GT today.

johnnyv8
10-07-2007, 06:45 PM
ORIGINAL: wmtheflash

ORIGINAL: 07GTEddy

ORIGINAL: johnnyv8

ORIGINAL: gearhed289

I was initially unimpressed with the Shelby GT. Then I was driving home from a gig in Michigan and a black one rolled by me on the left. It looked damn good! Now that I've read more of the details, I'm really getting the hots for one. They've basically already done everything I would do to a GT. I know I could get it all done for less, but in the long run, resale value will NO DOUBT be higher on a stock SGT than a modded GT. And it's a SHELBY! Plus, turns out that a friend of a very good friend of mine owns a couple of local Ford stores. They've got a white '07 SGT, and a couple of black ones. If I can get the right deal, that white one is MINE! Otherwise, I'll probably be ordering a Vista Blue GT Premium..... Great cars all around.


+2, go for it!


+3


-1...for now.

Take a peak on Auto Trader. I found several lightly used GT-500's here are the prices of just a few:

$49.9k
$49.5k
$48.5k
$47.9k
$45.6k

A quick search on Autotrader.com found two used Shelby GT's, both with extremely low each one $35k. I found at least a half a dozen that were in the upper $30k range.

Point being, the price on the Shelby GT's and GT-500's are coming down. There are plenty of dealers that still want Corvette prices for a Shelby GT, but a quick check on the internet found many that are getting close to MSRP. Remember, even though it's a real Shelby (I guess I'm too young to care about the name), it's still just a Mustang GT at heart.

Hang on for a few months or a year and you might be paying as much for a used GT-500 as others are paying for a Shelby GT today.


AHHH, a GT500[sm=massbounce.gif]BUY 2, 1 FOR ME AND 1 FOR YOU.

07 Shelby GT
12-08-2007, 04:17 AM
As I have said before in these forums. If anybody wants to know why people are willing to spend the extra money on a Shelby all they have to do is go and pick up the new Shelby magazine and flip to the very back page. There they will find a chart that shows all the values of every model ever produced including the 07-08 SGT. That should quiet them a little. However, they will be hard pressed to find anybody willing to state what a standard GT will be worth in 20 or 40 years. Keep a Shelby for 20 years and you are pretty much garranteed to get back every penny back of which you spend today. Again, a standard GT will probably be worth a whopping 5-7 grand then. I think I know which I will continue to purchase.

SBKRider
12-08-2007, 07:16 AM
ORIGINAL: Sam Strano

And as has been pointed out, only the Shelby GT is a "real" Shelby, the GT500 is not.

So Shelby now allows his name to be put on cars that are not really Shelbys. This is quite possiblyone of the dumbest things I have ever read.

myredgt
12-08-2007, 08:27 AM
The GT500 not a real Shelby? That's out of context.

I do understand what you are saying, it really is made and assembvled 100% by Ford. Carol drove it around, and approved it. that's why he allows his name on it.

The Shelby GT is built in Dearborn, Michigan, then shipped to Shelby in Las Vegas to have all the Shelby stuff added.

In reality, Shelby auto actually has more to do with the GT then the GT500, but still authorized by Shelby.

Yes, they are both Shelby's, just one is actually built on in Las Vegas. Hopethat ties up all the ends.

- C :)

steele901
12-08-2007, 08:55 AM
ORIGINAL: 07 Shelby GT

As I have said before in these forums. If anybody wants to know why people are willing to spend the extra money on a Shelby all they have to do is go and pick up the new Shelby magazine and flip to the very back page. There they will find a chart that shows all the values of every model ever produced including the 07-08 SGT. That should quiet them a little. However, they will be hard pressed to find anybody willing to state what a standard GT will be worth in 20 or 40 years. Keep a Shelby for 20 years and you are pretty much garranteed to get back every penny back of which you spend today. Again, a standard GT will probably be worth a whopping 5-7 grand then. I think I know which I will continue to purchase.


fyi: anything that decreases in value IS NOT AN INVESTMENT, period. buy stock if that is your biggest concern! on that note buy a shelby if "show" is your biggest concern and buy a gt and slap a supercharger on is for the same price if "go" is you main concern. nuf said...