Hey guys, well this really suxs, my mustang... is pretty much totaled and i dont even know what steps to take from here. I was on i95 going 60 my car hydroplaned i spun and i hit the wall, the front is pretty much gone!, Here are pics http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/nozracer/Mustang%20Crash/ so now i dont know if i should get it repaired, sell it, or junk it. Give me ideas guys what should i do? I only had PIP coverage so insurance is worthless, and also interestingly enough my airbags did not deploy. Help me out!

If sell it for parts... what my best option, and much could i get? How do i go about this?

Glad you are ok.
Unless you've got a lot of extra cash stuffed under your bed, I'd part it out and look for a new car.

shouldnt have been going so fast in the rain

Sorry to hear about it. Ive had close encounters in my first mustang also. Mustangs seem to not like the rain at all and if you push em even 15 mph around a turn, you hit the gas and your car is gonna go a complete 360. If you got some cash then id repair it or get a new one. If not, then id scrap it and sell the parts, if your gonna sell parts you mind listing some of the parts your car has that are unharmed?

Is it a six cylider?? Cause Im looking for a motor if you decide to part out...

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Is it a six cylider?? Cause Im looking for a motor if you decide to part out...


Yep its a V6... high mileage though... ur loooking at 118,000 or so

Ive hydroplaned MANY times in my car.. but i had bald tires too.

Anyway, you may be in luck my friend. Did you buy your mustang from a Dealership? if so youmay be abletosue them for not making sure they sold you a car with working airbags.This happened to my friend, she was doing a stupid 90 mph going down to Oregon and she FLIPPED her Jetta and the airbags didnt deploy and shebroke her neck but got tons of money lol.

Glad to hear youre ok. Cars can be replaced people cant.....

Also, if you dont mind me asking, what size and kind of tire were you running on the back end of your car?

I dont agree with V-6stang16, my car handles just fine in the rain. Ive gone 100+ in the rain. Its all in the tires. If you have tires that are suited for it then you shouldnt have to worry about it too much. I ALWAYS buy rain specific tires for the summer, because hydroplaning sux. Happend to me once in an escort. A 1/2" wide bald strip on the inside of the tire caused it. The car wound up on its roof.
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Ive hydroplaned MANY times in my car.. but i had bald tires too.

Anyway, you may be in luck my friend. Did you buy your mustang from a Dealership? if so youmay be abletosue them for not making sure they sold you a car with working airbags.This happened to my friend, she was doing a stupid 90 mph going down to Oregon and she FLIPPED her Jetta and the airbags didnt deploy and shebroke her neck but got tons of money lol.


Well yeah i did buy it from a dealer, but it was a toyota dealer and i bought it used..... so what are my options now?

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Glad to hear youre ok. Cars can be replaced people cant.....

Also, if you dont mind me asking, what size and kind of tire were you running on the back end of your car?

I dont agree with V-6stang16, my car handles just fine in the rain. Ive gone 100+ in the rain. Its all in the tires. If you have tires that are suited for it then you shouldnt have to worry about it too much. I ALWAYS buy rain specific tires for the summer, because hydroplaning sux. Happend to me once in an escort. A 1/2" wide bald strip on the inside of the tire caused it. The car wound up on its roof.
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Im using regular stock tires... the front ones are better than the back ones...

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Ive hydroplaned MANY times in my car.. but i had bald tires too.

Anyway, you may be in luck my friend. Did you buy your mustang from a Dealership? if so youmay be abletosue them for not making sure they sold you a car with working airbags.This happened to my friend, she was doing a stupid 90 mph going down to Oregon and she FLIPPED her Jetta and the airbags didnt deploy and shebroke her neck but got tons of money lol.


Airbags dont just deploy. The impact sensors are mounted just in front of the strut towers (usually). If you hit them from the side they WILL NOT deploy. They have have to be hit fron the front. Or slightly offset from the front.
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Well about the airbags you guys saw the pictures.... the front was hit... not head on but yeah it hit...

Thats a negative PZero. In a wreck as such the airbags have no choice but to deploy. When the car hits something the energy is sent throughout the car causing the bags to deploy and in theory even if you are correct the front end of car is smashed too so that would have caused them to go off.

Noz your options are to have your car inspected by a collison center or something along that line and have them examine the airbags system and present those findings to the dealership you bought the car from, you can settle it out of court or you can take them to court.

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Glad to hear youre ok. Cars can be replaced people cant.....

Also, if you dont mind me asking, what size and kind of tire were you running on the back end of your car?

I dont agree with V-6stang16, my car handles just fine in the rain. Ive gone 100+ in the rain. Its all in the tires. If you have tires that are suited for it then you shouldnt have to worry about it too much. I ALWAYS buy rain specific tires for the summer, because hydroplaning sux. Happend to me once in an escort. A 1/2" wide bald strip on the inside of the tire caused it. The car wound up on its roof.
-P.



Im using regular stock tires... the front ones are better than the back ones...



Believe it or not, its better to have more tread in the rear. Theres less weight in the back so its MORE prone to hydroplaning especially if the tires are bald or worn passed the treadwear indicators. You might as well have had slicks on the back.
Rotating your tires every 6000 miles will help them live a MUCH longer life. And theres no reason to run a SUPER wide tire on a steet car. Running a 275, 315 or a 335 tire on the street is just stupid. While it might give you slightly better traction when it 75* and sunny, itll be WAY worse for your car in the rain, because a really wide tire needs to displace more water in order to get traction. Hence your cars come with 215's.
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Thats a negative PZero. In a wreck as such the airbags have no choice but to deploy. When the car hits something the energy is sent throughout the car causing the bags to deploy and in theory even if you are correct the front end of car is smashed too so that would have caused them to go off.

Noz your options are to have your car inspected by a collison center or something along that line and have them examine the airbags system and present those findings to the dealership you bought the car from, you can settle it out of court or you can take them to court.


Im sure it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. Heres an example, a friend of mine with a escort GT basically had the front end torn off when he got hit on the left front of his car (at the wheel). His airbags did not deploy, even though it got hit literally on the impact sensor. Becuase he was hit from the side. And from what nozracer made it sound like his front end was also damaged by going sideways, not frontal. If he had a side impact sensor and side curtain airbags, that wouldve sensed the impact and deployed.
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(I cant view the pics because of this stupid web blocker at work).

Yeah... all season tires are nice. But no matter what type of tire it is if its ball your gonna lose traction. Next time checking them regularly is the best.

I wouldn't consider a lawsuit ... People now a days are way too lawsuit happy.

Sorry to hear about the car man.

It looks like a pretty dead on frontal hit, and the airbags should of deployed.
Take them to court and sue thier pants off.

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Yeah... all season tires are nice. But no matter what type of tire it is if its ball your gonna lose traction. Next time checking them regularly is the best.

Not all seasons, something along the lines of Dunlop SP8000's. Theyre directional, and have super wide circumferential groves specifically for hydroplaning resistance.
And all of you driving a mustang year round really should have a set of snow tires, if you get snow.
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Yeah... Kuz bringing a lawsuit apon a dealership for selling him a car that possibly had airbag system failure is wrong.. Reguardless he should still have it inspected. From the pictures he posted the front end is damaged in such a way that the airbags should have deployed.

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And all of you driving a mustang year round really should have a set of snow tires, if you get snow.
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Thats the truth.

Ill have to look at em when i get home.....damn you web blocker[:@] DAMN YOU!
-P.

lol, Yeah the front end looks like it too the most damage.

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lol, Yeah the front end looks like it too the most damage.


More like all(besides the rear). It looks as if the doors are still in perfect condition.

Looking at the pics, I'm not surprised that the bags didn't blow. It takes a pretty straigh on front hit to get them to blow. Looks like it hit at an angle due to the twist the impact left.

Glad you're okay man!:) Suck about the car, but everything happens for a reason.

You trying to sell your wheels? How much would you sell all four for?

well hmm first and foremost....id cry if that happened to my car. Second, glad to hear that u r ok...thats a crazy crash from what it sounds like....id part it out as best as i could( it pains me to say that) but your car needs waaayyyy tooo much money to restore it. Also...i rear ended some girl at like 14 mph and my airbags deployed...hittin my face......i am DAMMM surprised yours didnt deploy.....get it inspected and if its a failure.....get a new car from that dealership(or sue) good luck man!

Sue like every other good American;)That looks pretty bad. My car was hit in the front right , mainly on the side and both airbags deployed.

glad ur ok, but srry to hear about the car, especially since u hydroplaned and couldnt really control it
maybe its just me but i cant see that pic, it has an error

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Thats a negative PZero. In a wreck as such the airbags have no choice but to deploy. When the car hits something the energy is sent throughout the car causing the bags to deploy and in theory even if you are correct the front end of car is smashed too so that would have caused them to go off.

Noz your options are to have your car inspected by a collison center or something along that line and have them examine the airbags system and present those findings to the dealership you bought the car from, you can settle it out of court or you can take them to court.

uh, yes they do have a "choice." That choice is made by the airbag computer. this computer makes an utterly unbelievable split second decision based on inputs from the sensors, car speed. The sensors are not sensing any damage to the front, they are sensing a head-on collision.
but if you have a good lawyer and juries that believe they have no choice but to deploy, then i guess you can win.
If there wasn't any computer making this decision, carmakers/dealers would be sued for airbag deployment when not needed (or when it would do no good).

having said that, if a system had ever deployed, I understand you basically have to replace more than just the bag. but if that happened, you would never get the airbag trouble light to go off.

wow.... Did you type that just to argue with me? I said in a wreck as such.. one of such severity.. his front end is compacted.. The speeds and the force of the collision should have set the airbags off... hence.. In a crash as such the airbags had no choice but to go off if they were working properly. (hows that?).

Alsoim pretty sure youdont have to face aJury of Jurors (Their not called Juries ;)) because this is merely a civil suit not a criminal. Now if you find the dealership had Mens Rea (or aguilty mind) and had maliciously tampered with your airbag computer youd be in a whole new ballpark. It also depends on your state laws and regulations.

yes sir I typed just to argue. I've seen at least one other crash in this forum where the damage to the front was considerable but was admittedly not head-on. It was almost the same story.

In Texas you may face a jury in a civil case. Happens very often. And I did mean juries (multiple situations, not one jury of six or twelve). Also, I reckon on that earlier case the verdict simply needed to show that the dealer touched the system, whether what he did had anything to do with the bags deploying or not, it didn't matter to the court.

But, back to the technical stuff. Yes, lotsa damage to the front, but it didn't look compacted. It look ripped.

How friggin long do you think a civil case will be? First of all, you dont know what your talking about.. Try taking Criminal Procedure and Criminal Law for a whole year and then come back. You have ONE Jury to hear the entire thing. You cant just bring in another Jury, youd have to present your case like you did to the previous Jury. Inthe case there is a mistrial you MAY need another Jury but ina casethats so black and white.

Either way, why are you arguing about something thats largely beside the point? Lets leave it at, He crashed, airbags didnt deploy, he needs to have it inspected and needs to contact the dealership immediately.

Are we all looking at the same pictures?
The bumper bar is shoved to the left. The right fender is shoved in on the front and levered out on the back.
He was obviously spinning when he hit, slidding sideways and not hitting squarely.
Yes, America needs more law suites. Fill the courts up suing people for installing items to protect
people when they do dumb things. Sort of like the guy that sued the gunmaker because the pistol
mis-fired when he tried to commit suicide.
That way the real criminals, (rapers, killers, kidnappers, polititians and movie stars), can cop a walk.

Sue the dealership??? For what who cares if your airbags didnt deploy would it of prevented the wreck? NO!! You lost control and totaled your car im feel for ya but its not the dealers fault u cant control your car. Now if u had been hurt in this wreck due to airbag failure then by all means sue but dont try to bog down the courts cause you couldnt handle you own car. And we wonder why Used car dealers try to rip people off hell they have no choice to due to all the B.S lawsuits they have to battle. Dry the tears and suck it up u fed up plain and simple take responsibility for your actions and move on.

Jesus.. some of you guys are idiots... what ever.. do what ever you feel you must... (it is the law that a dealership must sell a car that has all safety equipment working properly, injury or no injury, he at least deserves them to compensate his loss. In the future I suggest more insurance coverage tho)

His loss???? Why should the dealer pay for his loss the airbag had nothing to do with it. Idiot??? LoL im not the one telling a person to go sue a dealership when we all know he has no chance of winning!!! God some of ya are IDIOTS!!

Ok compensate him for his loss give him a working airbag and tell him to go find a car to put it in thats the only comp he should get.

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Thats a negative PZero. In a wreck as such the airbags have no choice but to deploy. When the car hits something the energy is sent throughout the car causing the bags to deploy and in theory even if you are correct the front end of car is smashed too so that would have caused them to go off.

Noz your options are to have your car inspected by a collison center or something along that line and have them examine the airbags system and present those findings to the dealership you bought the car from, you can settle it out of court or you can take them to court.

uh, yes they do have a "choice." That choice is made by the airbag computer. this computer makes an utterly unbelievable split second decision based on inputs from the sensors, car speed. The sensors are not sensing any damage to the front, they are sensing a head-on collision.
but if you have a good lawyer and juries that believe they have no choice but to deploy, then i guess you can win.
If there wasn't any computer making this decision, carmakers/dealers would be sued for airbag deployment when not needed (or when it would do no good).

having said that, if a system had ever deployed, I understand you basically have to replace more than just the bag. but if that happened, you would never get the airbag trouble light to go off.


Typically you also have to replace the SRS (safety restraint system) control unit, and the impact sensors. This too Im sure differs from manufacturer to manufacturer. You'd need a factory scanner to read which sensors were affected and which ones need to be replaced.
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You're Raymond from southflstangs right?

You crashed. You weren't hurt. Your insurance didn't cover it.
It's time to figure out what your going to do with that car and get it fixed or replaced.
Why is everyone so law suite happy?
Look at what "crash" did with his.

His loss???? Why should the dealer pay for his loss the airbag had nothing to do with it. Idiot??? LoL im not the one telling a person to go sue a dealership when we all know he has no chance of winning!!! God some of ya are IDIOTS!!

Ok compensate him for his loss give him a working airbag and tell him to go find a car to put it in thats the only comp he should get.


He doesnt have to bring up a lawsuit. He needs to have the car inspected first. What if he got in a serious accident and the airbags didnt deploy... How is he supposed to know they dont work. If they airbags didnt work would he have bought the car? no... SO using logic.. the dealership should take the responsibility and do something because they got lucky he didnt get hurt, if he had gotten injured it would be another story and you all would be singing another tune... Stop acting like the world is so unjust because people sue companies due to safety failure... Just because he didnt get hurt doesnt mean the dealership should get off with not inspecting their airbag systems...

you wouldn't happen to have eibachs on there would ya?

sorry bout the car man. My stang hates rain too. I've spun out in the rain twice, once on purpose in a parking lot and I did about 3/4 of a 360, and the other time I took a corner at 20mph in the rain, and my back end came around and I ended up on the sidewalk. luckily it was a ramped curb, so no damage was done.