Looking at the pics, I'm not surprised that the bags didn't blow. It takes a pretty straigh on front hit to get them to blow. Looks like it hit at an angle due to the twist the impact left.
well hmm first and foremost....id cry if that happened to my car. Second, glad to hear that u r ok...thats a crazy crash from what it sounds like....id part it out as best as i could( it pains me to say that) but your car needs waaayyyy tooo much money to restore it. Also...i rear ended some girl at like 14 mph and my airbags deployed...hittin my face......i am DAMMM surprised yours didnt deploy.....get it inspected and if its a failure.....get a new car from that dealership(or sue) good luck man!
glad ur ok, but srry to hear about the car, especially since u hydroplaned and couldnt really control it maybe its just me but i cant see that pic, it has an error
Thats a negative PZero. In a wreck as such the airbags have no choice but to deploy. When the car hits something the energy is sent throughout the car causing the bags to deploy and in theory even if you are correct the front end of car is smashed too so that would have caused them to go off.
Noz your options are to have your car inspected by a collison center or something along that line and have them examine the airbags system and present those findings to the dealership you bought the car from, you can settle it out of court or you can take them to court.
uh, yes they do have a "choice." That choice is made by the airbag computer. this computer makes an utterly unbelievable split second decision based on inputs from the sensors, car speed. The sensors are not sensing any damage to the front, they are sensing a head-on collision. but if you have a good lawyer and juries that believe they have no choice but to deploy, then i guess you can win. If there wasn't any computer making this decision, carmakers/dealers would be sued for airbag deployment when not needed (or when it would do no good).
having said that, if a system had ever deployed, I understand you basically have to replace more than just the bag. but if that happened, you would never get the airbag trouble light to go off.
wow.... Did you type that just to argue with me? I said in a wreck as such.. one of such severity.. his front end is compacted.. The speeds and the force of the collision should have set the airbags off... hence.. In a crash as such the airbags had no choice but to go off if they were working properly. (hows that?).
Also im pretty sure you dont have to face a Jury of Jurors (Their not called Juries ) because this is merely a civil suit not a criminal. Now if you find the dealership had Mens Rea (or a guilty mind) and had maliciously tampered with your airbag computer youd be in a whole new ballpark. It also depends on your state laws and regulations.
yes sir I typed just to argue. I've seen at least one other crash in this forum where the damage to the front was considerable but was admittedly not head-on. It was almost the same story.
In Texas you may face a jury in a civil case. Happens very often. And I did mean juries (multiple situations, not one jury of six or twelve). Also, I reckon on that earlier case the verdict simply needed to show that the dealer touched the system, whether what he did had anything to do with the bags deploying or not, it didn't matter to the court.
But, back to the technical stuff. Yes, lotsa damage to the front, but it didn't look compacted. It look ripped.
How friggin long do you think a civil case will be? First of all, you dont know what your talking about.. Try taking Criminal Procedure and Criminal Law for a whole year and then come back. You have ONE Jury to hear the entire thing. You cant just bring in another Jury, youd have to present your case like you did to the previous Jury. In the case there is a mistrial you MAY need another Jury but in a case thats so black and white.
Either way, why are you arguing about something thats largely beside the point? Lets leave it at, He crashed, airbags didnt deploy, he needs to have it inspected and needs to contact the dealership immediately.
< Message edited by xX98StallionXx -- 7/2/2007 2:53:33 AM >
Are we all looking at the same pictures? The bumper bar is shoved to the left. The right fender is shoved in on the front and levered out on the back. He was obviously spinning when he hit, slidding sideways and not hitting squarely. Yes, America needs more law suites. Fill the courts up suing people for installing items to protect people when they do dumb things. Sort of like the guy that sued the gunmaker because the pistol mis-fired when he tried to commit suicide. That way the real criminals, (rapers, killers, kidnappers, polititians and movie stars), can cop a walk.
Sue the dealership??? For what who cares if your airbags didnt deploy would it of prevented the wreck? NO!! You lost control and totaled your car im feel for ya but its not the dealers fault u cant control your car. Now if u had been hurt in this wreck due to airbag failure then by all means sue but dont try to bog down the courts cause you couldnt handle you own car. And we wonder why Used car dealers try to rip people off hell they have no choice to due to all the B.S lawsuits they have to battle. Dry the tears and suck it up u fed up plain and simple take responsibility for your actions and move on.
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Jesus.. some of you guys are idiots... what ever.. do what ever you feel you must... (it is the law that a dealership must sell a car that has all safety equipment working properly, injury or no injury, he at least deserves them to compensate his loss. In the future I suggest more insurance coverage tho)
< Message edited by xX98StallionXx -- 7/2/2007 11:25:54 AM >
His loss???? Why should the dealer pay for his loss the airbag had nothing to do with it. Idiot??? LoL im not the one telling a person to go sue a dealership when we all know he has no chance of winning!!! God some of ya are IDIOTS!!
Ok compensate him for his loss give him a working airbag and tell him to go find a car to put it in thats the only comp he should get.
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Thats a negative PZero. In a wreck as such the airbags have no choice but to deploy. When the car hits something the energy is sent throughout the car causing the bags to deploy and in theory even if you are correct the front end of car is smashed too so that would have caused them to go off.
Noz your options are to have your car inspected by a collison center or something along that line and have them examine the airbags system and present those findings to the dealership you bought the car from, you can settle it out of court or you can take them to court.
uh, yes they do have a "choice." That choice is made by the airbag computer. this computer makes an utterly unbelievable split second decision based on inputs from the sensors, car speed. The sensors are not sensing any damage to the front, they are sensing a head-on collision. but if you have a good lawyer and juries that believe they have no choice but to deploy, then i guess you can win. If there wasn't any computer making this decision, carmakers/dealers would be sued for airbag deployment when not needed (or when it would do no good).
having said that, if a system had ever deployed, I understand you basically have to replace more than just the bag. but if that happened, you would never get the airbag trouble light to go off.
Typically you also have to replace the SRS (safety restraint system) control unit, and the impact sensors. This too Im sure differs from manufacturer to manufacturer. You'd need a factory scanner to read which sensors were affected and which ones need to be replaced. -P.
You crashed. You weren't hurt. Your insurance didn't cover it. It's time to figure out what your going to do with that car and get it fixed or replaced. Why is everyone so law suite happy? Look at what "crash" did with his.
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DAMN YOU! 
Suck about the car, but everything happens for a reason. 
That looks pretty bad. My car was hit in the front right , mainly on the side and both airbags deployed.
