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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 6/28/2007 2:09:02 PM   
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Depending on what year Civic it was, he might have only spent $5,000 on the whole setup.  You can get Civic hatchbacks for well under $3,000 and an RSX-S motor probably isnt no more than $2500 or so.


Hey why don't you shut the hell up and let me enjoy my victory haha just kidding. But one thing that's still sad is all that time he invested in the car. Those little cars are hard to work on... everythings hidden and cramped up.

I know what you're saying about a fast, cheap, setup... I'm buying a rebuilt title 04 Mach (perfect frame, had it checked out) for $7k and throwing about $4k into it and hoping for high high 11's. I can't wait to run a Ferrari or something haha $11k vs $ALOT yet it's faster...



Are you kidding? Hondas are some of the easiest cars to work on, at least in my opinion, and on my integra. Everything is right there for the most part. I'm not a mechanic, but some of my friends are pretty handy and they just swapped me in a motor. They had the motor out of my car in a little more than an hour and back in in about an hour with the most time bieng taken on swapping things off my old motor and putting it on my new motor. It seemed like it was a mostly stock motor in the civic. If that's all it was then it probably only took him or whoever did it less than 6 or 7 hours so he doesn't really have a whole lot of time wrapped up in it if you don't consider some brackets and mounts he may have needed to look for. Good kill and all, but you don't really hear of a lot of V8 owners bragging about killing an N/A four banger by less than a car, especially because the motor and car are stock for all intensive purposes.

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 6/28/2007 6:29:22 PM   
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Much of an ego there?


At that moment my ego was about as big as our engines. Haha just kidding but you know it feels good to race and beat someone in a nicer car while a cute girl is watching.

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 6/28/2007 7:55:42 PM   
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Did you get some ass at least ??

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 6/28/2007 9:31:29 PM   
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Depending on what year Civic it was, he might have only spent $5,000 on the whole setup.  You can get Civic hatchbacks for well under $3,000 and an RSX-S motor probably isnt no more than $2500 or so.


Hey why don't you shut the hell up and let me enjoy my victory haha just kidding. But one thing that's still sad is all that time he invested in the car. Those little cars are hard to work on... everythings hidden and cramped up.

I know what you're saying about a fast, cheap, setup... I'm buying a rebuilt title 04 Mach (perfect frame, had it checked out) for $7k and throwing about $4k into it and hoping for high high 11's. I can't wait to run a Ferrari or something haha $11k vs $ALOT yet it's faster...



Are you kidding? Hondas are some of the easiest cars to work on, at least in my opinion, and on my integra. Everything is right there for the most part. I'm not a mechanic, but some of my friends are pretty handy and they just swapped me in a motor. They had the motor out of my car in a little more than an hour and back in in about an hour with the most time bieng taken on swapping things off my old motor and putting it on my new motor. It seemed like it was a mostly stock motor in the civic. If that's all it was then it probably only took him or whoever did it less than 6 or 7 hours so he doesn't really have a whole lot of time wrapped up in it if you don't consider some brackets and mounts he may have needed to look for. Good kill and all, but you don't really hear of a lot of V8 owners bragging about killing an N/A four banger by less than a car, especially because the motor and car are stock for all intensive purposes.


I was going to say something similar.  Obviously, this guy doesn't have experience working on different cars and is not a "car" lover.  I do know from personal experience, you can change a clutch in a civic much faster than you can change the plugs and wires on an LT1.  They are surprisingly not cramped for space. 

Believe it or not, some people enjoy working on cars as a hobby.

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 7/3/2007 6:44:54 PM   
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well the 02-05 Civic Si had the K20A3 with a 5 speed manual making 160hp and I forget how much torque. I want to say around 130tq. The base RSX had the k20A3 also. The same year RSX-S had the K20A2 with the VTEC making 200hp and a 6 speed. I've seen 02-05 Civic Si's in the low 13's on all motor with the K20A2 and bolt ons. Thats the one the civic guys are swapping in. Put that motor in a lighter shell than an 02-05 Civic Si hatch and you will run low 13's to high 12's all day. The VTEC is  what?????................madness.


I can make a go-cart run high 11's too but that doesn't make it a cool ride.  That's what ricers don't get.  A fast grocery getter is still a grocery getter!  Notice who had the chick in their car?  Stang driver of course.  I have never met a girl who got excited about a riced vehicle but plenty who love stangs, vettes and to a much lesser extent camaros





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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 7/3/2007 6:49:53 PM   
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Imagine... All that time and money into a glorified economy car, and it is still not up to par with a S197 .


Yeah that's funny and all...but don't you think people with nicer cars than mustangs say the same thing...

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 7/3/2007 7:25:53 PM   
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Imagine... All that time and money into a glorified economy car, and it is still not up to par with a S197 .
Says the kid with the 13 year old 15 second car.

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/12/2008 12:14:32 PM   
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I used to have a 95 civic w/ a semi built engine plus the usual bolt on pushing around 200 at the crank. I used to suprise a lot of people w/ that car and it's 8500 redline, especially w/ 4 dours. 

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/12/2008 1:29:43 PM   
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****in awesome, remind me to give a ****. Now heres a fun fact youre a jackass for bumping old ass threads to tell mustang owners about your econo sedan gone racecar.

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/12/2008 2:03:30 PM   
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What's wrong with a fast civic?  You guys make fun of it saying "haha it's a grocery getter, or a economy car" well we got our cars to go fast or else we would of gotten a V6 right?  Poeple who buy civics or any other import out there for that matter and do right work are no different really.  It's just guys with motors twice the size that are just jealous that a car like that can actually run with them, who cars what it is, if it goes fast that is what would matter to me, or else like i said earlier I would of gotten a V6.  It just depends on what poeple prefer, I wouldn't mind it in anyway just to see that faces I'd get when my little souped up 4 banger would blow away a V8.  

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/12/2008 9:19:08 PM   
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What's wrong with a fast civic?  You guys make fun of it saying "haha it's a grocery getter, or a economy car" well we got our cars to go fast or else we would of gotten a V6 right?  Poeple who buy civics or any other import out there for that matter and do right work are no different really.  It's just guys with motors twice the size that are just jealous that a car like that can actually run with them, who cars what it is, if it goes fast that is what would matter to me, or else like i said earlier I would of gotten a V6.  It just depends on what poeple prefer, I wouldn't mind it in anyway just to see that faces I'd get when my little souped up 4 banger would blow away a V8.  


Old thread but who cares.  First the civics and such were built as economy cars conceived for the 70's when gas shortages happened.  When people take those ecno box/grocery getting cars and try to make them fast , most(i guess me) V8 owners don't get jealous we think WTF.  Why are you taking such a low HP car and doing a motor swap and spending tons of money to make it kinda fast.  The dude in the story had a complete motor swap and lost to a stock new edge.  With some decent bolt-ons for the New edge the race would have been a joke.

Anything can be made fast for enough money, but everything fast is not cool to look at(insert riced car here)

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/12/2008 11:54:54 PM   
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ok a new age mustang cost like lets say 15k well my buddy picked up a 92 civic cx hatch back for 1500 and he has like 15k in it wich is like a new age with bolt ons and he run 10.44@ 147 on the brakes cuz he dont have a cage and he put down 593hp and 463tq on pump gas making out 1000cc inj so look at the prices what would you rather have a $16,500 low 14sec new age or a $16,500 low 10 high 9 if he did not have to hit the brakes hatch back civic that still gets 25mpg if he does not hit boost ?????just my .02

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/13/2008 2:27:18 AM   
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****in awesome, remind me to give a ****. Now heres a fun fact youre a jackass for bumping old ass threads to tell mustang owners about your econo sedan gone racecar.


My first thought wasn't to check the date before I posted some of my personally experience on the issue, but who cares? Considering you felt the need to bump it further w/ some pointless negative comment that caused three other people to post in reply to bump it even more, who is the real jackass?

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/14/2008 12:42:56 AM   
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ok a new age mustang cost like lets say 15k well my buddy picked up a 92 civic cx hatch back for 1500 and he has like 15k in it wich is like a new age with bolt ons and he run 10.44@ 147 on the brakes cuz he dont have a cage and he put down 593hp and 463tq on pump gas making out 1000cc inj so look at the prices what would you rather have a $16,500 low 14sec new age or a $16,500 low 10 high 9 if he did not have to hit the brakes hatch back civic that still gets 25mpg if he does not hit boost ?????just my .02

In all honesty I would take the mustang....yeah the civic is faster but lets just say a 92 civic hatch isnt my style.


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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/14/2008 8:53:46 PM   
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i was just trying to open the book for both sides i have a civic and i was going to do this and that but then i said f that and bought my 86 gt i mean i would like to have a fast honda but around hear they get stolen left and right so i bought the mustang and you got to love the tq sumthing hondas dont have lol

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/14/2008 9:17:10 PM   
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heh.. I agree.. there are tons of quick foreign and domestic cars that are faster than they should be.. look at blue beast.. if I saw him driving down the road I'd be like.. im gonna PWN this guy.. then I'd get wooped up on.. and although I've seen riced out neons.. his isn't one of them.. and after reading this thread I can see how someone can have fun with a cheaper car, make it fast for little money.. hell.. If i had any sense I'd have kept my old FWD Grand Am and just suped up an older cheaper car that I could easily afford.. now I'm back to living pretty much pay check to pay check with only a little going into savings.. so these guys could be more financially responsible and still be able to have fun...   I love old threads

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/14/2008 9:31:53 PM   
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BTW I recently found out the price of a k20 swap into a civic hatch...7-8k minimum!!!   apparently a lot of stuff doesnt translate so u have to swap axles, electronics, etc....it's cheaper and faster when you turbocharge a b18 motor apparently.

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/14/2008 10:05:25 PM   
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Its nice that you met a cool guy.  It seems like around here most "tuner" guys are douchbags, if they were cool like that guy then I wouldnt mind the import crowd.  Nice race

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/14/2008 11:03:01 PM   
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well the 02-05 Civic Si had the K20A3 with a 5 speed manual making 160hp and I forget how much torque. I want to say around 130tq. The base RSX had the k20A3 also. The same year RSX-S had the K20A2 with the VTEC making 200hp and a 6 speed. I've seen 02-05 Civic Si's in the low 13's on all motor with the K20A2 and bolt ons. Thats the one the civic guys are swapping in. Put that motor in a lighter shell than an 02-05 Civic Si hatch and you will run low 13's to high 12's all day. The VTEC is  what?????................madness.


I can make a go-cart run high 11's too but that doesn't make it a cool ride.  That's what ricers don't get.  A fast grocery getter is still a grocery getter!  Notice who had the chick in their car?  Stang driver of course.  I have never met a girl who got excited about a riced vehicle but plenty who love stangs, vettes and to a much lesser extent camaros
so its like saying SRT-4 are fast but still a NEON right, upsssssssss

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RE: Me vs Civic with swapped motor - 5/14/2008 11:12:00 PM   
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ok a new age mustang cost like lets say 15k well my buddy picked up a 92 civic cx hatch back for 1500 and he has like 15k in it wich is like a new age with bolt ons and he run 10.44@ 147 on the brakes cuz he dont have a cage and he put down 593hp and 463tq on pump gas making out 1000cc inj so look at the prices what would you rather have a $16,500 low 14sec new age or a $16,500 low 10 high 9 if he did not have to hit the brakes hatch back civic that still gets 25mpg if he does not hit boost ?????just my .02
i rather have the stang cuz looks a lot better. And just so u know you can get a 5.0 for 2k and spent 5-7k and run the same!!! Please get a life

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