Is there anyone else having nearly as many problems as i am?

this is rediculous!

i picked up the car again from SSV friday afternoon and they gave it to me broken.

What kind of problems are you having ?

its problem after problem...there isnot oneparticular problem that the car has.

right now... the car makes loud grinding noises under load...even worse when the A/C pump is on. It performs very poorly,even though they told me itdrove great and i drove itout of SSV andnoticed it was not right!

Man, That sucks.

you sure were a defensive mofo when you bought that beast though. You see when they hand you your keys back after working on your NEW car for the 10th time and smile you know somethings up by then. Or maybe you know somethings up after the 4th time. Either way, sorry to hear about your probs. Just pray Saleen stays around long enough to fix everything or buy your car back.

Saleen should not be authorized to crack a brand new engine from Ford and sell it as new. This has been happening since the S351 days. We are not seeing any problems with the PJ cars because most of them have hardly any miles on them yet. Bummer really.

well apparently i am the only E owner with this many problems, which makes your statement null and void correct?

i could see that a possibility of all the Extreme owners were like WTF.... but its just me!

iam on the same boat man i have a extreme nothing but problems

The guys at SSV even tell me they've had similar problems with the E's like the boost gauge going bad, but those cars have never been back since. Mine has been problematic ever since I bought it. The boost gauge has been replaced 4 times, my clutch has been replaced, my supercharger has been replaced, my entire rear end has been replaced, the flywheel has been replaced, the drive shaft has been replaced...but don’t getme wrong, a lot of these parts werereplaced under warranty atthe same timebecause when the car wouldn't go into gear, they tried fixing it a couple times andfinally decided just to replace all the drive train except the reardiff, and transmission. The rearend diff wasa different problem (gear hum).All the problems seemed to be smoothing out and becoming just small problems which I was hoping would just go away eventually, but now, I am pretty the belt slips again andsomething near theflywheel makes loud grinding noises under load. This is only some of my problems I have had…others are not as immense.

I’ve had erraticboost before, and the problem was in the tune, so it now has an 07 tune. It’s been under powered at times....the list goes on, but that is beside the point. I am upset right now about it because they sat there and told me the car seems to be running even better than normal and its really good and the someone took the car home for the weekend and everything was fine, except as soon as I drove it off the lot, Isaid to myself....something’s not right! On top of that, after this person drove the car home for the weekend, I turn on my head lights and the boost gauge and air temp gauge are two significantlydifferent colors....Besides the fact that the car has 3000 miles on it and Saleen has put the majority of them on.

I have exhaust leaks and I was told it’s a common problem. Nothing against Saleen, I have a passion for them and am potentially a great customer in the future as they produce more cars, but I have this on my plate right now.

Saleen has been very helpful and been adamant about me being happy and doing all they can for me...so I have been very understanding and nice about the situations at hand...now I see some half ass work being done about this, and the car still is not fixed, soI am setting up a meeting with whoever....because I want some answers!

Bottom line....does any other E owners have similar issues? ...

Well,

Didn't want to call you out but maybe you should just dig a bit farther before... well, you know:D

Hate to re-post this thread but

http://www.mustangforums.com/m_2504370/tm.htm

http://www.mustangforums.com/m_3336481/tm.htm

Abbas had numerous problems immediately after picking up his "E" ride. His dealer did resolve.

Sam the Jeep Man had Saleen buy back his Extreme. Here is a quote of his:

"not trying to scare you, only relating what i have been through
it was living nightmare, right to the minute they towed it away. from all my research and talks with saleen owners(especially extreme owners), seems like either you got a good one, or you got a bad one. with a bad one, no matter what is done with it as far as repairs etc, it will always be bad. the scary part, especially for east coast owners(who store them away for the winter), is the one year warranty !!!!
i wish you luck with your vehicle, but don't let these problems be white washed away, by bulls---- from factory reps saying "this is normal, or there nothing wrong with that" !!!!


I still think it's a bummer since Saleen builds so few "E" cars and soo many owners have too many problems with them.

Sorry to hear about your frustrations Adam, but you are not alone- perhaps its time you make contact with Sam The Jeep Man and talk to him about how he went about his "buy back" :( It sure is discouraging to read about all the problems with these E cars that were supposed to be so bad ass [&:]

Good luck.

I hope it works out for you, and others (Db28 comes to mind) have had issues with their Ecars. There is no excuse for poor quality, considering the premiums these things are bringing.

Good Luck.

As for the PJ's I've got 3k on mine with no issues, but other boards have multiple PJ owners and I'll keep everyone posted if issues start to come up.


Chuck

ORIGINAL: saleen281eguy

well apparently i am the only E owner with this many problems, which makes your statement null and void correct?

i could see that a possibility of all the Extreme owners were like WTF.... but its just me!


It sure can feel like you're the only one experiencing problems when you're going through them. But as others have already said, several E owners have gone through the difficulties you are. The good news is you have a forum here so you aren't alone and you can get great advice from people who really know and really care.
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I've said once before that I would not buy a late-model E, even if I had the money. Sam's comment about either they're good or they're not seems to ring true. It appears you've got a lemon. And I fail to understand why ANYONE would have to drive your car for the weekend, change a bunch of the settings, etc.to find out what's wrong with it. Especially when you could tell before you even left the lot! Can you say J-O-Y-R-I-D-E? Crazy.
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If I were you, I'd spend some time talking to Sam The Jeep Man and then trade that sucker back for something that works. I don't think the PJs are going to suffer the same problems but Sam could tell you for sure -- he got one as trade for his lemon (and I don't mean yellow) E.

ORIGINAL: saleen281eguy

well apparently i am the only E owner with this many problems, which makes your statement null and void correct?

i could see that a possibility of all the Extreme owners were like WTF.... but its just me!


Others have commented already we all feel your pain, my car have been at the dealer since mid-May.

You can add Viper/Saleen to the list with problems with his Extreme, he has been trying to sell his for a few months now.

eek sorry to hear about all your problems. I wonder if all the problem cars could be traced back to one particular point, maybe one of the assembly teams? There seems to be a lot of hit or miss- some cars have no problems and others are dogs. So far I think I've been very lucky, not having the problems others have had with their E cars but I'm starting to wonder if lightning will get me too one day.

what becomes of the buyback ones? are they resold? etc?

I really feel for you.
When you buy a " top of the line premium priced car ", you would expect it not to be a piece of junk.
I would contact Saleen and ask them, firmly, to buy it back. If that fails, consult your State Lemon Law and an attorney.
Good luck.

ORIGINAL: smoothy

eek sorry to hear about all your problems. I wonder if all the problem cars could be traced back to one particular point, maybe one of the assembly teams? There seems to be a lot of hit or miss- some cars have no problems and others are dogs. So far I think I've been very lucky, not having the problems others have had with their E cars but I'm starting to wonder if lightning will get me too one day.


how about this.... do you use the full potential of your car? do you use 11.5-12 lbs of boost? (all 550 hp) or do you drive it like a mercedes (persay)?

that may be an objectifying difference.

What i am getting at is if you actually DRIVE the car... the performance might be showing through on weak parts, whereas if you use your extreme as a show car or it sits inyour garage, it might not have problems until the motor actually starts putting out 550 horses. ....

Yeah,

I agree. Spend 70-80K of hard earned dough on that car with a built bottom end and you should be able to feel confident about driving the piss out of it if you want to. Otherwise, what's the point?

That was the reasoning behind my PJ comment. We probably won't see too many problems with those cars for 2 reasons.

1. Most of the owners just putt putt them from the garage to car show. (EDIT) with the exception of ChuckDoc!

2. No blower. That will eliminate a lot of possible problems already.

Sorry to hear or read about your Problems with your 2006 Extreme. Believe me youare NOT alone. Read my post>> ALL 2006 SALEEN EXTREME OWNERSon thismustangforums. My suggestion is to get in contact with a LEMON LAW ATTORNEY in your state. Please do not trade it in & let some other person get stuck with the headaches you,me & all the other Extreme owners that have had problems with them. When it is labeled as a Lemon by the court system then the title has to reflect LEMON on it(like it's stamped on titles when they are SALVAGED). Usually the car will be sent to the dealers auction & sold cheap.
Good Luck. [sm=shades.gif]

I will say that I do have an Extreme. When I picked up the car, I was having some major PCM problems but Saleen took care of that (Thanks to Billy Tally). My car has 8,000 miles and I do push the car literally everyday (love the torque). I have complained about the brakes squeaking and Saleen has ignored the issue so I am going to leave it as is for now. The glass and silver ring on the boost guage and temperature have popped off (no biggie) and I superglued them back on. The temperature gauge only works if
if turn the car on/off twice. I dont get that problem. I have had the sensor replaced once but the same problem exists. My muffler is still not 100% but I have not had the time to take it in. I have come to the conclusion that compared to my 03 M3, the quality of the Mustang sucks BUT boy do I love the torque.

Thank god that the car is drivable and I dont have your problems as it is my only car and I do have to drive 40 miles one way to get to work.

ORIGINAL: saleen281eguy

ORIGINAL: smoothy

eek sorry to hear about all your problems. I wonder if all the problem cars could be traced back to one particular point, maybe one of the assembly teams? There seems to be a lot of hit or miss- some cars have no problems and others are dogs. So far I think I've been very lucky, not having the problems others have had with their E cars but I'm starting to wonder if lightning will get me too one day.


how about this.... do you use the full potential of your car? do you use 11.5-12 lbs of boost? (all 550 hp) or do you drive it like a mercedes (persay)?

that may be an objectifying difference.

What i am getting at is if you actually DRIVE the car... the performance might be showing through on weak parts, whereas if you use your extreme as a show car or it sits inyour garage, it might not have problems until the motor actually starts putting out 550 horses. ....



Sadly, I don't get to take the car out as much as I'd like to be able to (I get a good drive once or twice a week). When I do have it out, I've got everything going full-bore, no'Sunday driving'here. I live on the outskirts with tons of very lightly used concession and regional roads in my area. While I don't mind car shows, I'm not the type to pretty-up my ride just to let strangers ogle it (I get enough folks looking when I'm on the road)

i usually sit back every few nights and read the new posts on this great forum.
while reading them, i sometimes laugh, shake my head,andstill get really angry when when i have to think about what i went through with my #003 extreme.
now that good people like "say when & amy" have brought up my name, i might as well chime in !!
i don't have all the answers you are looking for, pertaining to what you should do with your extreme(lemon-sell-burn-buy back).
all i can say is that saleen is doing their best to rebuild their good name.
the person i had the most dealings with when i had my problems was mike simmons(vp operations).
my case was different then yours, i already had a gt, a pj on order and they knew i was thinking about orderinga 07 S7.
it took alot of hard work, but i got them to buy mine back. once you involve a blood sucking attorney, saleen can not raise a finger to help you, it is now in the hands of the lawyers !!!!
as in db's case, it could take up to two years to get a resolve.
i have recieved countless letters from other extreme and sc owners with problems. i have sent these letters to mike simmons, and i know for a fact that each and everyone of those letters was addressed by him and as far as i know all the problems in the letters were resolved to the owners satisfaction.
i speak to mike every few weeks, and he has been asking me for input as to have a better public image(especially on the forums). so i really think they are trying.
below is mikes personal email address. if you have a legit problem, mail him with your concerns. he apparently puts his pants on just like us and he will make it right.
i have no loyality or deals with saleen, but i'm trying to help you guys out, because i know what i went through. maybe this will keep you from having 90% of the aggravation i had experienced.
good luck and let me know how you make out
a concerned friend.

sam
ps--i'm soo convinced that saleen is getting back to their roots, that i will probably be ordering my 2008 S7 next march !!!!!

MSimmons@Saleen.com

Awesome on all counts, Sam. Great advice, sound wisdom and potentially a new S7 on the way! You've got it all, my friend. Thank you for chiming in. If Saleen is learning from their mistakes, hopefully no one else will have to go through what you did.

Awesome report, Sam. I think you probably had a better approach than others, and it paid off. I have been down on other's post about issues in the past becuase in some cases they already had lawyers involved and they had their agenda already set.As you stated, at that point it's too late to expect good service. In my profession waving attorneys around doesn't get a good response, although I admit there comes a time when that is truly your last recourse. In your case, luckily you have salvaged the relationship with Saleen, and it sounds like you're helping others get their issues resolved as well.

Good work.


Chuck

Sam The Jeep Man - You should tell Mike Simmons to join the forum as Billy Tally did. It would be really nice to have another Saleen representative here.

If I understand correctly, the way to get Saleen to live up to the warranty, on your $75,000 car, is to tell them you're going to buy their $600,000 car. [sm=wtf.gif]

ORIGINAL: walc

If I understand correctly, the way to get Saleen to live up to the warranty, on your $75,000 car, is to tell them you're going to buy their $600,000 car. [sm=wtf.gif]




HA haa ha ha ha ha. Frikin A!


I agree with Chuck. I hated seeing that other thread rear it's ugly head again and again.


I think they built only a couple of dozen "E" cars for 06 right? Maybe a few more? If I was someone at Saleen with a teenie bit of power I would make EVERY customer with an "E" car feel like they bought a suite at the Ritz and give the warranty issues on those cars the utmost service right out of the gate. These are the guys that piss the most on the net and I don't blame them. Fortunately for me I never had a single issue with my 06 S281 supercharged while I owned it.

ORIGINAL: saleen281eguy
andsomething near theflywheel makes loud grinding noises under load.


Check to see if the two bolts are missing from the bottom of your bellhousing!

I'm pretty sure they built more than a couple dozen..I've seen 3 figure numbered E cars at my local dealer. I thought I read 150'ish on hear earlier in the year.

ORIGINAL: sowaxeman

I'm pretty sure they built more than a couple dozen..I've seen 3 figure numbered E cars at my local dealer. I thought I read 150'ish on hear earlier in the year.


I believe the number is 162 with the first 10 being prototypes/press cars. Mine is number 158.

ORIGINAL: abbas


ORIGINAL: sowaxeman

I'm pretty sure they built more than a couple dozen..I've seen 3 figure numbered E cars at my local dealer. I thought I read 150'ish on hear earlier in the year.


I believe the number is 162 with the first 10 being prototypes/press cars. Mine is number 158.


Well, lets be realistic- does anyone truly believe a company that can't get body panels and assorted hardware to fit and function properly, plus have a high employee turnover ratio-that they can ACTUALLY dissasemble a motor and put it back together without a hitch?

I don't.

Sorry to hear about the problems that are persisting with the E cars [&:]

ORIGINAL: Say When

Fortunately for me I never had a single issue with my 06 S281 supercharged while I owned it.


Dude, you owned it for all of 3 days and you had your steering wheel emblem falling off. Don't try to play like your car was perfect now! :D Plus your supercharged S281 came w/o the supercharger... isn't that a major factory oversight? lol

ORIGINAL: abbas

Sam The Jeep Man - You should tell Mike Simmons to join the forum as Billy Tally did. It would be really nice to have another Saleen representative here.


What am I not good enough for you now!? [sm=boohoo.gif]

Just kidding, I'm glad you were happy with the service and resolution you recieved!

ORIGINAL: dotbomb

Sorry to hear about the problems that are persisting with the E cars [&:]

ORIGINAL: Say When

Fortunately for me I never had a single issue with my 06 S281 supercharged while I owned it.


Dude, you owned it for all of 3 days and you had your steering wheel emblem falling off. Don't try to play like your car was perfect now! :D Plus your supercharged S281 came w/o the supercharger... isn't that a major factory oversight? lol



Touche'


Actually, I had to hold the steering wheel emblem on the way home from the dealer.;)I wouldn't consider that a problem compared to the other issues these guys are having.

That is why my friend I never label my (previous) car as an S281 SC. It was simply a 3 Valve supercharged.

The reason I never had any problems with my car is because Saleen did not install the blower. That is what we call "Power in the hands of Few".

Factory oversights are my middle name! lol.

THE ONLY THING THERE GOOD AT INSTALLING IS 3M TAPES AND THERE STICKERS ,EVERYTHING ELSE SUCKSSSSSSS THERE THE BIGEST DISAPPOINTMENT with there cars

I swear SALEEN100 works for Roush, he never has anything good to say about Saleen :D

Good idea Jared - Let's have Saleen100 post a pic of his Saleen!! [sm=badbadbad.gif]

I have had my E fr about 10 months now. I only have 1500 miles on her and I really only get to drive her on Sundays when its not raining. For the first 1000 miles the car was babied. Once I hit over 1000 miles it was a different story. No troubles yet and the car has been a blast to own. Now, will I buy another Saleen in the future Probably not. My biggest concern is that half the cars come out good the other half are nothing but trouble. Still a Saleen fan though.

ORIGINAL: S281 E

I have had my E fr about 10 months now. I only have 1500 miles on her and I really only get to drive her on Sundays when its not raining. For the first 1000 miles the car was babied. Once I hit over 1000 miles it was a different story. No troubles yet and the car has been a blast to own. Now, will I buy another Saleen in the future Probably not. My biggest concern is that half the cars come out good the other half are nothing but trouble. Still a Saleen fan though.


I agree with you. I think the new management at Saleen should go back and satisfy every customer (at least in the last couple of years). That way they would assure the present customers will be return customers. I have close to 9,000 miles on the car and I love it but hearing everyone's problems and taking that in addition to by brakes squeaking (Saleen says that is normal - I dont know of any $70k car where the brakes squeak and is considered normal), I dont think that I will buy another Saleen.

alright its my turn...I have a 02 s281-E... So far,so good.. The only things I can think of is the brakes squeking like crazy..I put new pads on..and two-three days later.. here it goes again... And the other thing is sometimes I start my car and it cranks over bad..then it starts...but sometimes it starts like nothing...I have about 18k on it now..I try not to drive it soo much..but u know how that goes..lol

ORIGINAL: Chuckdoc
Good idea Jared - Let's have Saleen100 post a pic of his Saleen!! [sm=badbadbad.gif]


I want to see pics of the 06 GT/Saleen/Boyd/XMP/Extreme.

Its funny that you say that cause I saw Eric from XMP this weekend and accused him of being SALEEN100:D

did the whole clan go to the wedding???

i can give you a dianosis of the problem. its a ford

ORIGINAL: 02CamaroSS

i can give you a dianosis of the problem. its a ford

Hey if your going to be dogging on Fords then what are you doing in the mustang forums?? We welcome all who would like to participate but not those with anger against other car companies.... Camaro guy on mustang forums....[&:]

i joke i joke. wouldnt start posting here if i didnt have respect. i do love the saleen/boss/rouche, etc :) not so much gt 4.6 :\ i dont rly dog ford even though i love chevy.

ORIGINAL: 02CamaroSS

i joke i joke. wouldnt start posting here if i didnt have respect. i do love the saleen/boss/rouche, etc :) not so much gt 4.6 :\ i dont rly dog ford even though i love chevy.

Good to have you on board sir ;) its always good to have feedback from other car company lovers.

ORIGINAL: 02CamaroSS
...i do love the saleen/boss/rouche, etc :) not so much gt 4.6 :\ ...


I see why you don't like the GT 4.6:

ORIGINAL: 02CamaroSS
Chevrolet,. wtf is going on? The 4.6 Mustang is keeping pace with the SS models with ALUMINUM 5.3s. Kudos to ford on a really decent horsepower output on such a little engine. 2008 Impala SS: 303 HP, 2007 GT Mustang: 300.

Haha!!! how in the hell did u dig that up polkster????? :)

ORIGINAL: 06Saleen3V
Haha!!! how in the hell did u dig that up polkster????? :)


I got mad stalker skillz!

SKILLS TO THE MAX.

Saleen100 please post pics of your ride.

ManI hate to here these problemsI feel for you guys who spent the big dollars and get let down by Saleen and I had gotten my bad taste from Saleen if you ask me they dont care Period.
I build fast pro street cars and I am no kid in age so instead of doing another chevy I fell in love with the Saleen body and started doing research starting with Saleen in cali and they suck to deal with so I made a deal with a ford dealershipMAROONEor BETTER YET MORONFORD in florida to buy a new Saleen and what a crap box this brand new car was soI fly home with no car and really pissed off as the saying goes you want something right do it yourself.So off to my local dealer I go order a loaded mustang GT order everything from a saleen body kit to every piece from BMR they make then to currie for a ford 9 inch rear 35 spline gun drilled axles and locker then going to F&B transmission to stuff a overdive tsbe that handles 950 h-p to kenne bell for a 2.6H water to air intercooler to Livernois motorsport for a complete bottom end and ported heads kooks headers and free flow cats so what Iam trying to say you cant trust the factory or any of these aftermarket places to build a real car They pissed me off Big time I wont even get into the issues I am having with the saleen body kit thatI just about finished like whats up with the rocker panels being so long and sticking into the back wheel opening ? THAT SUCKS!
I cut trimmed and epoxyed mine to fit the wheel opening correct THANKS SALEEN and many other issues.Anyway I feel your pain and good luck

While I am feeling this rage I will finish my thoughts on this.
What dealer even gives a flying SHI_ to even fix your Speciality car correct like they care its just another car to them its just a sad thing to spend so much money get nothing and nobody cares the same goes for a corvette ZO6 car or a viper the dealers will fix them correct Not in this life time so your forced to pay out of pocket if your lucky enough to find a guy thats smart and fussyto be into your ride.The good side to all of this is sites like this one there is plenty of info here to understand and sometimes fix your own car
Anyway let me stop writing before you guys think I am out of my mind GOOD LUCK

nycmikie,
Problems aside, we would love to see pictures of your car, in a new thread. Only time will tell if Saleen will fix that which is broken.

I agree with Tim, I want to see pics of your conversion ;)

ORIGINAL: 02CamaroSS

i can give you a dianosis of the problem. its a ford


CamaroSS ?!?!?!?!?!?!....

.....get 'em boys! ;)


Jazzer wearin' out an oldie but goodie

dont care anymore car is poorely built iam not gone waste my time explaining all the issues they have we all know and are on the same boat .A company that has a sticker emblem on the steering wheel thats covers the ford one half ass cant built a reliable car and if 3m ever goes out of business so will saleen .The whrere good before they got big and production got bigger but now its all juck to me everything on that car put together is worth not more then 10000 and the rest is proffit .Sad but true

Please separate thoughts into paragraphs. I'm now legally blind after trying to read that.

ORIGINAL: SALEEN100

dont care anymore car is poorely built iam not gone waste my time explaining all the issues they have we all know and are on the same boat .A company that has a sticker emblem on the steering wheel thats covers the ford one half ass cant built a reliable car and if 3m ever goes out of business so will saleen .The whrere good before they got big and production got bigger but now its all juck to me everything on that car put together is worth not more then 10000 and the rest is proffit .Sad but true


Saleen100,
I wish you hadn't of deleted that post it had some good infomration in it, if you can please put it back.

ORIGINAL: eviligloo

Please separate thoughts into paragraphs. I'm now legally blind after trying to read that.






+1,000,000! Poor punctuation and grammar in general is so hard to read. I usualy skip over it. But I did catch your comment about the steering wheel badge and 3M tape. I guess I am one of the few lucky ones. My car seems to be very well built - no issues with the fitment of the body kit and even the steering wheel badge is still holdingup quite well.[8D]

ORIGINAL: SALEEN100

dont care anymore car is poorely built iam not gone waste my time explaining all the issues they have we all know and are on the same boat .A company that has a sticker emblem on the steering wheel thats covers the ford one half ass cant built a reliable car and if 3m ever goes out of business so will saleen .The whrere good before they got big and production got bigger but now its all juck to me everything on that car put together is worth not more then 10000 andÂ* the rest is proffit .Sad but true



SALEEN100, may of us have felt some of the frustration that you have, including me. However, it seems every single post from you is bashing Saleen. I don't understand how this is helping the rest of us, or you for that matter. We're here to comiserate when a member is frustrated or disappointed, but the hope is that we can all move on to more positive topics. Every one of your posts is a bash! I am sorry you have been through such difficulties with your car. But if all you can do is vent and berate, you are going to wear out your welcome here. We're on this forum because we LOVE the car. It's not perfect and many of us have been disappointed at times. But overall we're ENTHUSIASTS. If they can help you in any way, I'm sure many of the fantastic people on this forum will give all they have. Otherwise, perhaps it's time for you to move on.

(perhaps the Camaro forum would love to hear your tale of woe) [sm=closed.gif]

[sm=owned.gif]^

Isn't it time for a moderator to shut this one down? Now he's bumping it to the top without even saying anything in the posts!

I'm watching it gang, but at this point it hasn't gone too far over the top and he really isn't belligerent. Unfortunately there have been some issues with the '06 E cars and there are a few in here that are communicating "respectfully" with each other. Now if we fill up the rest of this page with useless banter, or it turns more "destructive" - I'll shut 'er down. So please, lets not make meuse my powers [8D]

i dont care whos gone shut who down you guys dont understand i lovd the company and there cars but now they haveturned into ****ttt.They tell you yeah we changed and have better customer service and build better cars please come back to us will take care of you ,but as soon as you buy the car no one gives a **** about you anymore and never help you out in anyway .Why you think everyones get hierd and then dissaperas after a while cause they have gotten so unorginized and bad at eveythig they should sop production and take care of all the drama with all the unhappy customers and then start to build cars again not diss the people we spent 80 grand is not a joke and they should take care of us like there is no tommorow.We could go buy a z06 or a diablo or whatevr for 80 grand that a better car and perform better thean saleen but we are saleen fans and we sponser the company and what they do and they should respect us in return and take care of there people that are helping this company be better known and more ad insted of looing then and having them tell people thats saleen is going down the drain i never taled **** before so whatever so of you guys dont understand

ORIGINAL: SALEEN100

i dont care whos gone shut who down you guys dont understand i lovd the company and there cars but now they haveturned into ****ttt.They tell you yeah we changed and have better customer service and build better cars please come back to us will take care of you ,but as soon as you buy the car no one gives a **** about you anymore and never help you out in anyway .Why you think everyones get hierd and then dissaperas after a while cause they have gotten so unorginized and bad at eveythig they should sop production and take care of all the drama with all the unhappy customers and then start to build cars again not diss the people we spent 80 grand is not a joke and they should take care of us like there is no tommorow.We could go buy a z06 or a diablo or whatevr for 80 grand that a better car and perform better thean saleen but we are saleen fans and we sponser the company and what they do and they should respect us in return and take care of there people that are helping this company be better known and more ad insted of looing then and having them tell people thats saleen is going down the drain i never taled **** before so whatever so of you guys dont understand

kinda understood some of that...This is what saleen100 probably looks like[sm=imsmilin.gif]...sry but seem a little too angry for me

no company is perfect

while preping my zo6 they damaged a seat rail taking the plastic off, when I took it back they scratchd the door panel taking the seat out
basic oil change for srt 10, scratchd both front wheels ( putting it on the lift)

to me just sounds fishy that someone is so irate that they have to bash saleen constantly

id still buy gm, dodge, ford etc

all my experiences so far with saleen are positive, now theres another company ive recently began using that is HIGHLY respected here,

that ive so far have had nothing but problems with.....(order came 3 weeks later, missing parts, etc, 5 hang ups when i call back, over a week after my order is placed they finally realize they need my computer number for a tune, an now the latest air intake part missing from kit)

so id say every company has its issues

OK man, for the last time - PLEASE use some punctuation!!!!!!! You just might get a few more people to read your statements and maybe even respect them. But when you post 14 lines of text with only 4 periods/capital letters - well I just don't have the patience or respect to even try. However I did happen to catch something about 80 grand anda Lambo Diablo........um, yeah - good luck with that ;)

While you are entitled to your opinions, please understand that you don't have to come across as being so irate. There are others in here that do share your frustrations and have had poor experiences with Saleen & the Dealers. But please understand that there are also MORE of us in here that are happy and have even had decent experiences with Saleen & Dealer services.

I'm not sure of your status. Do you currently own a '06 Saleen Extreme (because that IS what this thread is supposed to be about), or any Saleen or have you sold them and given up [&:] Either way - give us a break man, calm down and communicate with us all on a civil level or do as our friend Amy suggests....move on.

ORIGINAL: AmyVCTexas
SALEEN100, may of us have felt some of the frustration that you have, including me. However, it seems every single post from you is bashing Saleen. I don't understand how this is helping the rest of us, or you for that matter. We're here to comiserate when a member is frustrated or disappointed, but the hope is that we can all move on to more positive topics. Every one of your posts is a bash! I am sorry you have been through such difficulties with your car. But if all you can do is vent and berate, you are going to wear out your welcome here. We're on this forum because we LOVE the car. It's not perfect and many of us have been disappointed at times. But overall we're ENTHUSIASTS. If they can help you in any way, I'm sure many of the fantastic people on this forum will give all they have. Otherwise, perhaps it's time for you to move on.

(perhaps the Camaro forum would love to hear your tale of woe) [sm=closed.gif]


:)

The jAZZER con currs .

For what it is worth I can sympathize with Saleen100's frustration and attitude and believe he has the right to share it however he sees fit, I can remember the blasting Sam the jeep man gave to Saleen, DB2 and others, I don’t remember anyone telling Sam to tone it down and we should not censor Saleen100 either. Saleen should have taken better care of these people. As I have stated in other threads, time will tell if Saleen will truly change their ways. Saleen reps on this and other forums is a step forward and I would love to here the rest of the story regarding some of the complaints involving the Extreme yet no one has attempted to defend it or explain it. I have posted good and bad experiences with Saleen; if things don’t improve I won’t buy from them again.

As for Saleen100, read his posts if you care to, pass over them if you don’t or block him if you must, but don’t tell him not to be angry, Saleen grew that attitude in him and only Saleen can fix it.

Tim, taking the path less trodden.

Actually tim, your point is well taken. I am not for censoring SALEEN100, but would rather see a post on the issues someone has and then updates on the progress of the actions taken. Although it is clearly someones right to continously post negative thoughts on a subject, you will eventually turn everyone off to your cause.

Take the Critical Mass bike ride in San Francisco the lastFriday of every month, for example. The original objective was to expose people to the benifits of bike riding and show how you can get around by bike in SF. What it has turned into is an "in-your-face" assault and became an "us against them" thing and wore out their welcome. This is not a perfect analogy, but serves to tell us that everytime someone posts a critical thread,Sam The Jeep Man and DB2, it will eventuallybegin tofall on deaf earsand patiencethen becomes lost. I mean no offense to SALLEN100, so I appologize if I do so.

All of us here all wantto see you, Sam, timand DB happy as we get no enjoyment out of someonehaving troubleswith their car. Hopefully, we will see a positive result and get your ride running properly and back on the road as soon as possible :)

Jaz

Jazzer, my post was not directed at you particularly, you were just the last person that posted. I think I am going to be up and running by Monday. As I try to be fair, I am dealing with a dealership that is not a Saleen dealer, their sister dealer used to be, but stopped selling them a few years ago. The dealer has been great trying to take care of me, but the communication between the two has been a strain at times. Hopefully the problem will be solved on Monday.

I will post in a new thread the results, I was trying not to make my previous post about me, but for those that had more serious issues, I guess I failed at that one.

I guess my point is, does this guy have a 2006 E? I don't remember him posting that he has a 2006 E, but if he does he is certainly entitled to be upset. If he doesn't then he doesn't need to be adding fuel to the fire in a post that is supposed to befor 2006 E owners.

Also, punctuation would be nice and less attitude and cussing would be more welcome. I recall Sam's issues and I don't remember him yelling and cussing and laying upon us the mother of all run-on sentences. Sure you could tell he was mad, and who could blame him - but he was civil in here when communicating to us. I read all of his posts with interest and respect - just like I have read all of yours while you've gone through your ordeal. Like I told somebody else in another thread - there are quite a few people in here that have had their issues but yet they communicate well and are helpfull. I don't consider his communcations (lately anyway) to be helpful, and they are damn hard to read [8D]

I wish we could just all get along and everyone get their issues fixed so everyone can be out enjoying their Saleens [sm=icon_cheers.gif]

Yes i do have aE car and I am very upset -because of Saleen's careless customer service, and cheaply made car that we paid so much money for (because we love the Saleen name) But, its nothing but disapointment to most of us. Insted of them trying to resolve issues, and take care of there good customer (who has bought many saleens in the past) they just slap us in the face and say:"sorry leave a message and one of our tech or warrenty guys will get back to you"The car just sits there collecting dust, and nobody gives a crap about whats going tohappen or what should be done. Wecontinue to pay our monthely payments, and not even get to drive the car or enjoy it. Its parked at the dealer next to 5 otherswith the same problems - for months!So unless they start to show some improvment and take care of all the issues they have (with customers, warrenty and dealers)I will never buy another Saleen. And, I will tell everyone that the car is just a big disapointment to me. It never was before - when they took there time and built a bad-ass car.Now its all about pushin them outASAP and making the bucks.What happens?They all sit at the dealer with the same issue -parked there for months.When you call to see whats up, the service advisorsays""I called those basterds 40 times, emailed them and no one gets back to me!" Or the parts are on back order for months!LOL -on brand new car! Now tell me why I shouldnt be pissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssseddddddddddd.

Dude -why won't you PLEASE use some frickin punctuation, and stop taking your frustrations out on US [&:] WE are not Saleen, WE are not the dealer, and WE are certainly not saying you shouldn't be frustrated or are not entitled to your opinions. Heck, you just might get more people to agree with you and better yet, actually READ what you are trying to say. Man you make it tough - just settle down and communicate with us - nobody here is mad at you or trying to say you shouldn't be mad about your situation. If I was in your shoes I would be spending my time communicating with my attorneys and the dealer/saleen instead of ranting in here.

Where are you from? Who is the dealer involved? Perhaps its time to make idel threats to the dealer to get them to step up - or better yet take it to another dealer. Unfortunatley there are a lot of dealers out there that should NOT be Saleen dealers [:@]

Saleen100,
I'm very sympathetic tofellow owners,who have problems, with Saleen or its' dealers. However, you don't write as if you are old enough to own a bicycle; let alone a car.
Please make better use of your time, at Cub Scout Internet Camp, or wherever you post from, and leave us alone.
TIA.

He did use some punctuation. I count at least2 periods in that big block of text. Other than that my eyes water when looking at that big wall o' text.

There - I used my mod powers and edited his post with some punctuatioin. Now that I can read it, I actually feel for you there saleen100 and hope you get some closure on your car. I still question the dealer side of the equation - you might do yourself a favor and call some of the other dealers in your area. It may mean more miles, but it could mean a fix and less frustration. You should also follow Sams advice on page 2 of this topic and contact that person at Saleen directly - just remember to punctuate and be civil or they will probably just blow you off [:@]

My biggest question to you is WHY would you leave your car at the dealer for "months" and still be making payments? Seems there should be some legal recourse on that. Is the car even driveable? If so I would have it in my garage until the issue with parts was resolved between the dealer and Saleen. No way I would leave my car even overnight for all the hounds and gawkers to run their grimey mits all over [:'(]

Good luck, and remember - punctuation is your friend ;)

ORIGINAL: SALEEN100

When you call to see whats up, the service advisorsays""I called those basterds 40 times, emailed them and no one gets back to me!" Or the parts are on back order for months!


After reading again, this quote strikes me as a problem. If this is indeed an accurate quote, then I believe you are using the wrong dealer. While Saleen may be going through some issues and what not, no self respecting dealer/service manager would talk like that about their vendor - especially with the customer [&:]

Saleen100, most if not all of us are on your side, when CS works well it works well for all. The goal is to work within the system and get results, if not, there are other legal remedies. Where are you located and what dealer are you using.

As for the punctuation, I am not the most eloquent person ever to post in a forum, so I type my posts in Word first then post them and I still wind up having to edit them. Good luck in your saga and talk to us like we are friends because most of us are the rest would like to be.

ORIGINAL: saleen281eguy

Is there anyone else having nearly as many problems as i am?

this is rediculous!

i picked up the car again from SSV friday afternoon and they gave it to me broken.


Adam, saleen281e, guyhasn't posted since 6-19-07, are there any updates?

ORIGINAL: sowaxeman

My biggest question to you is WHY would you leave your car at the dealer for "months" and still be making payments? Seems there should be some legal recourse on that.

I agree. Time to hire a lawyer and be done with it at this point.

This cracks me up. Yea, this guy is upset. Does he own an "E" car? Who knows. Use your mod powers and look at his IP. He is the same guy that has been around here for the last three years. I believe he was S281er or something like that. Jason, I think you even called him out then about something else or another car he claimed to have. I think it was a yellow S281 SC.

He may be 12 or he may not. I do believe he is from Los Angeles and our schools in the city are some of the lowest scoring in the nation so he may not be able to help himself either. I'd just hate to see Sow spend time doing his best adding half assed punctuation to his posts. :D

SALEEN100, if you haven't called Saleen yourself, please DO! Steve Snyder in Warranty is a great guy and he picks up his phone every time I call. Due to dealer ineptitude, I had to take matters into my own hands and it was the only way I got results. Try it! And if Steve Snyder doesn't pick up his phone on your first try and you leave a message, let me know if you don't get a call back in 24 hours and I'LL CALL HIM FOR YOU. Seriously.

We're here to help, but first you might want to try to help yourself. In life, solutions are a lot more interesting than problems, my friend.

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I test drove an 06 281E and the fan belt popped right off while making a hard turn. I made my mind up then and there. There obviously wasn't enough testing done on them.

Ok I will take some time out this weekend and post some pics but as of today I went to the dyno to see what this kenne bell 2.6h unit in low boost(8-9 lbs) would do and dont you know I am watching the guy slowly warming up my driveline on the dyno and the rear wheels wobbling so first thought thinking its the REV copy wheels and not so true asI have my original 17 wheels so up on horses change the wheel and wobbling nasty again 133 miles is all thats on this 2007 thought I would wait to put the 9inch in but does not look like that anybody here problems with the stock axles?
Anyway the dyno run was not bad it was 91 degrees and again the motor is not broken in yetbut made 419.6 -hp and just 400 torque on a dynojet so not to bad without pushing the motor yet.

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I was wondering what happened to Adam’s Extreme we haven’t heard anything from him since the beginning of June.

On another note, I took Sam’s advice wrote to Mike Simmons about my concerns on 6/21/07 and I haven’t heard anything back from him. I would offer to buy an S7 but they cost more then my house.

ORIGINAL: tim1200

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I was wondering what happened to Adam’s Extreme we haven’t heard anything from him since the beginning of June.Â*

On another note, I took Sam’s advice wrote to Mike Simmons about my concerns on 6/21/07 and I haven’t heard anything back from him.Â* I would offer to buy an S7 but they cost more then my house.


Hopefully Adam hasn't gotten so frustrated that he's given up...

Tim, you could always offer to purchase an S7 and then "change your mind" once your current issues are resolved... [8D]

Seriously, as of yesterday you now have some new names, very high up on the chain of command! I'd use 'em! NOTHING says lousy customer service like ignoring a client's request for help.

Maybe Jared or Spring can put a bug in someone's ear??? Maybe find out if Mr.Simmons got hit by a bus, or won the lottery, or something?? [>:]