03/04 Terminator Questions
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03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/8/2007 2:06:11 PM
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NeedaTerminator
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Hey guys I am new here and although I do not have a 03/04 Cobra terminator I really want one but I have some questions. I ordered some info on ProCharger's that came through the mail yesterday and an entire brochure of info was devoted to saying how an air-to-air intercooler is more effiecent and better than a air-to-water intercooler. Is there any aftermarket air-to-air intercooler's for the 03/04 Cobra's? Also if/when I get a terminator I would want somewhere between 500-600rwhp probably. I do not want turbo/twin turbo, I want to stick with a supercharger. Most everybody that I have talked to or checked out their cars all have KB or Whipple Twin-Screw superchargers. Are they better for the Cobra then a ProCharger, Paxton, Vortech, tec Centrifugal system? I know that centrifugals are like turbos and don't get a lot of boost at low rpm's, but they make more boost at higher rpm's. I would want my terminator to make good boost from low rpm's all the way through the rpm range. Would a centrifugal or twin-screw be better for this? The car would never see the track, but it might see some street races if the roads are clear of other people and would definetly see some passing. Thanks for all your help guys!
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/8/2007 9:23:52 PM
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bugpack28
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here is the deal your asking way too many questions and you don't have a cobra yet... Get a kb they make a ton of torque down low and hp is great and the kit isn't that expensive... Have fun an let us know when you get one...
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/8/2007 10:08:39 PM
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BTRStang
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When you get a Cobra stick with a KB or a Whipple. There are easy to install and they work well with all the aftermarket boltons, but to reach the 600hp mark you still have to do alot more than just bolt up a bigger liter S/C. Like bugpack28 said, buy the car and then come back and talk us. There is alot of Cobra owners on here that will glady point you in the right direction. Good Luck!
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/9/2007 12:40:20 AM
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There is a tuner on svtperf that installed a procharger and loved it. The Cobra guys that put one on like it. The reason most don't is because of the costs involved. They typically cost more then $1,000.00 vs a 2.8H KB or the new 3.4L whipple.
If your goal is 550-600rwhp, you're going to have a couple of options. You can get a Kenne Bell or a Whipple. Or you can port the stock eaton, and run 100 shot of nitrous. Regardless, you will have to do a lot of cooling work, and suspension so you don't snap the half shafts or blow your pistons.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Good luck with your purchase.
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/10/2007 7:03:37 PM
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NeedaTerminator
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Well originally I was going to go with 500rwhp, but after thinking about it, that is actually a lot of hp. I am thinking maybe 430+rwhp would be good, and can't that be done with simple bolt-ons like exhaust, intake and a good tune? I know I asked a lot of questions but the one that I need answered most now is this: Does anybody make an air-to-air intercooler for the cobra? I know it comes with a air-water ic but everyone says air-air is more effiecent and simpler to maintain. Can you get an air-air for a cobra?
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/10/2007 7:03:54 PM
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NeedaTerminator
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Well originally I was going to go with 500rwhp, but after thinking about it, that is actually a lot of hp. I am thinking maybe 430+rwhp would be good, and can't that be done with simple bolt-ons like exhaust, intake and a good tune? I know I asked a lot of questions but the one that I need answered most now is this: Does anybody make an air-to-air intercooler for the cobra? I know it comes with a air-water ic but everyone says air-air is more effiecent and simpler to maintain. Can you get an air-air for a cobra?
Sorry for double post, my browser was running slow and I clicked post twice
< Message edited by NeedaTerminator -- 6/10/2007 7:05:04 PM >
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/10/2007 8:26:43 PM
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xxkazp3rxx
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I am not sure.. the intercooler on the car is fine... you get a heat exchanger, tstat, head cooling mod.. and your car will cool down fine. If you get a 2.76/2.81 pulley, intake and exhaust tuned... you should have mid to high 400rwhp...
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/11/2007 9:18:45 AM
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BTRStang
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/11/2007 10:14:14 AM
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NeedaTerminator
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Hmm okay thanks guys. I really hate being young with not a lo tof money lol. I want a Terminator so bad! I am always trying to think of back up options in case it doesn't work out though. There is a guy I have been hanging out with lately that has a ProCharged 2002 Mustang GT. He is in the mid 400 rwhp range. About 500 or so engine horesepower. I could take that route. It would probably cost less than buying a used Cobra. Or I could get a GT and then KB or Whipple it instead of procharge it...
lol if you think I am being sort of stupid talking about getting all this stuff you should see all the stuff I talked about at srtforums.com about the SRT-4. I know I want a foced induction car, so it is between the SRT-4 and the Mustang/Cobra. Insurance is lower on a Mustang than an SRT-4, not sure about the Cobra though. Oh, I am trying to not think about this cause I would most likely kill myself or at least wreck it, but I could keep my car and get a crotch rocket...lower price, Crazy High insurance.
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/11/2007 8:59:35 PM
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xxkazp3rxx
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Insurance on my Cobra isn't very much more then my GT... I was 21 when I got my Cobra from my 04' GT... and I had an increase of a whooping 20 bucks a month. Get a VIN# from a Cobra (any Cobra) and do an insurance quote to see what you'd be paying... all cobras are the same really... no real options... well except for hardtop vs vert.
The advange the Terminator has over the blown GT is this... the Cobra block comes forged with a T56 6spd .... not that crappy 3650... and not with those internals that could blow at it's current power level.
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/11/2007 9:46:21 PM
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italia18
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Let me put it to you this way.
My cobra is currently running a N/A setup, and I leave the turbo SRT-4's 3-4 lengths behind me. Several times.
SRT-4 is not what everyone hypes it up to be. Its a turboed dodge neon with a weak turbo and an limited/underpowered stock turbo and computer system. Granted with work they can pull decent times, but hell, any car can with a little work.
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/11/2007 11:07:51 PM
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out of curiousity how old are you? insurance is not cheap by any means on a terminator. but i wouldn't trade mine for jsut about anything.
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/12/2007 9:44:24 AM
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NeedaTerminator
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right now I am 17, but by the time I would be able to get a Terminator I would proably be about 21. I know that a lot of people who get regular neons do an engine swap adn put the SRT-4 engine with turbo into their neon. Can a Cobra engine be put into a GT? (Years 99-04) I figure it this way, right now you can get a 04 GT for 14-18k. I can afford that earlier than 21. Maybe in two or three years cause my dad wants me to pay off my car first, keep it stock for a little while to save money and then start getting upgrades.
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RE: 03/04 Terminator Questions - 6/12/2007 10:43:01 AM
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italia18
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An engine swap can be done but you might as well buy a 03-04 cobra for the price it'll cost you to do it properly.
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