RE: Rant on slow sixxer
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/8/2007 2:56:38 PM
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eaglecatcher
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yeah, how did you pay 8 bucks for a spark plug and 100bucks for wires. If you know how to look for parts, its cheaper than that. I found an entire set of spark plugs for a Z for like 12 bucks, and the wires were not 100 bucks.
I've also read my haynes manual front to back thank you very much. I was planning on doing things like new headers and suspension and some easier things like that, but then I remembered I'm gonna sell my car in a few years anyway, why throw money at it hoping it gets better, when all that will just be a freebie to whoever buys the car next. If someone here wants to donate some performance parts to my cause, then I"ll stop complaining about my car, but if you want to sit there and lecture me and not do anything about it, then you have no room to talk.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/8/2007 4:59:34 PM
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Derf00
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You say I didn't do my research, I did do research. I figured with 150hp and 215ft/lbs or torque, it would be faster than it really is. I wasn't expecting GT fast, but I was at least expecting it to beat a 2 ton truck with a V8 in a race, and it doesn't.
Besides the other crazy things I've heard, you guys seem to totally forget that not the only thing that matters is who gets past the 1/4 mile first. Thats useless in everyday driving, as roads are not perfectly straight, flat, and wide open. So many people think that drag racing is the only type of racing out there, and thats just stupid. Out of all the different racing groups/type/etc, only 1 kind out of all the possible types of racing is in a straight line.
You say I don't do any work on my car? I've done tons of stuff sicne I bought it. New plugs and wires, new fuel filter, oil change and filter, seafoam treatment, transmission fluid change, air filter, new serp belt, new radiator fluid and hoses, PCV, brake pads, and a handful of other things. You say I don't do anything on my car, yet I've done more in a few months than most poeple ever do in their lifetime. yeah its not a lot, but I could have been lazy and taken it to jiffy lube, and paid to have nothing done, so don't tell me I don't know how to do anything on my car when I've done about as much as I can do with the supplies that I have available to me. I've got two jackstands, a jack, an incomplete socket wrench set, and some pliers and screwdrivers. I pay for all my own maintenance as well, unlike all of my friends, whos parents pay for insurance, gas, and repairs/maintenance. I've also detailed my car three times since I got it 6 months ago. I may not like my car, but I do take care of it so that when I sell it, I"ll be able to get back as much as possible.
I +1 Lil Roush..
Eagle Catcher- you say you did the research but you didn't TEST DRIVE it... The ultimate research. You may love the car on paper but once you sit your butt in and drive it, that will either make it or break it (the deal).
As for quarter mile it's a good indicator of seat of your pants feel if nothing else. If it's a dog in the 1/4 then it most likely will be a dog period. Passing speeds, acceleration, etc. Except for twisty driving. Again, a test drive would've found that out for you.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 12:33:54 AM
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I did test drive it, but I couldn't really do a whole lot of "extensive" exploration because my dad was with me. Whether it was fast or not, if my dad found out that it was fast, no way he would let me buy it. I will say that it's probably a faster car than he intended me to have, but its by no means a fast car. It certainly isn't a boring car to drive, I foudn that out the first time the rear end broke loose in the rain. An accidental drift around a corner at 45mph is definitely scary and exciting.
The main thing I'm just frustrated with is the lack of performance from my car. Its pretty much all show, no go. Some of my friends were like "you got a mustang? Thats a fast car!" I told them I have the V6, and its really pretty slow. They didn't believe me. Thats what frustrates me, is the mustangs image is it is a fast sporty car, but its not. It can be made to be, but I don't really have the means to make it one. If you guys have a few suggestions to what I can do to make it faster for under 500 bucks or so, (no nitrous) then I'm all open to it since I'm making loads of money and have not a whole lot to spend it on since I've already saved enough for insurance and gas.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 1:20:54 AM
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I did test drive it, but I couldn't really do a whole lot of "extensive" exploration because my dad was with me. Whether it was fast or not, if my dad found out that it was fast, no way he would let me buy it. I will say that it's probably a faster car than he intended me to have, but its by no means a fast car. It certainly isn't a boring car to drive, I foudn that out the first time the rear end broke loose in the rain. An accidental drift around a corner at 45mph is definitely scary and exciting.
The main thing I'm just frustrated with is the lack of performance from my car. Its pretty much all show, no go. Some of my friends were like "you got a mustang? Thats a fast car!" I told them I have the V6, and its really pretty slow. They didn't believe me. Thats what frustrates me, is the mustangs image is it is a fast sporty car, but its not. It can be made to be, but I don't really have the means to make it one. If you guys have a few suggestions to what I can do to make it faster for under 500 bucks or so, (no nitrous) then I'm all open to it since I'm making loads of money and have not a whole lot to spend it on since I've already saved enough for insurance and gas.
When most people think Mustang they think V8. That's why. It's also why many people are dissapointed to hear that you have a V6.
Now I haven't read past the first post or two, but here's my .02:
You bought a V6 Mustang expecting a performance car. It's not. It's the BASE model. The GT is the performance model. In some cases (mostly imports) the V6 is the performance model, and the 4 cylinder is the base. If you buy a base model anything (cept a Vette or something), you're not gonna get a "performance" car. Plain and simple.
And $500 will get you nowhere. Just save more any buy something worthwhile.
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I have never heard of a non-brand name car....would that be like a Fred's Fun Wagon?
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 11:35:12 AM
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Let's see, real performance for $500, unless you're really good, that's damn near impossible. And by really good, I mean buying a cam, and the bare necessities to rebuild your heads to the new port settings, and port and polish everything yourself, and install everything yourself and pray it all comes together right, and even that will cost more than $500 to get everything needed.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 12:12:23 PM
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 12:17:24 PM
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NITROUS
he clearly stated no nitrous
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 11:31:07 PM
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jthorn9
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Sn-95 Gts aren't that fast unless you get lucky and can find a 94-95 5.0 for cheap, then you can make it fast for fairly cheap, 96-98s suck balls stock. Look into a 99+ GT if you can afford it. A 94-98 Cobra on the other hand will probably suit you better.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 11:38:53 PM
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mustangman02232
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Sn-95 Gts aren't that fast unless you get lucky and can find a 94-95 5.0 for cheap, then you can make it fast for fairly cheap, 96-98s suck balls stock. Look into a 99+ GT if you can afford it. A 94-98 Cobra on the other hand will probably suit you better.
i think you keep forgetting the fact that you baught a built car, any stang that says "GT" and was made from 1994-1998 is about as fast as a 99-04 6, they slooooowwwwwwwww
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/9/2007 11:53:39 PM
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Theres a reason they stopped making the 300zx.......pos
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/10/2007 12:01:23 AM
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I did test drive it, but I couldn't really do a whole lot of "extensive" exploration because my dad was with me.
hahahahahahhahaha BITCH!
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/10/2007 12:18:30 AM
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thats because the 98 v6's only had 150 hp,i had a 02 v6 and ir wasn't to bad,it had some power,and i heard that the new v6's are way better.quote:
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I still can't for the life of me figure out why these mustangs are so damn slow. Mine is a 98, and its got a 3.8L v6, thats a monster engine by normal standards, yet its slower than a ****ing accord. I mean, why did ford not charge people a little more on the base price, and make use of the massive amount of displacement they have, instead of slacking off and making a ridiculously slow car. I mean, a 9 second 0-60 time is pathetic. You've got Nissans with much smaller engines, like the 300ZX has a 3.0L V6, and its got 222hp, the Maxima has 3.5L V6 making 255hp, and the 350Z has a 3.5L v6, and it makes over 300hp. Hondas Accord 3L V6 makes 244hp. That car is an econo sedan, that is faster than my car, and gets better gas mileage. I don't see why someone would buy a mustang over the rest of the cars out there. Well, you ask why did i buy one then? I'll tell you. I turned 16, and my parents offered to buy me a car. I just took whatever car they would get me, and a mustang was the only car oferred that I really liked (I didn't know anything about how terrible they were), so I took it. Far be it from me to turn down a free car.
I was called unpatriotic in another thread for saying I'd rather buy a 15 year old 300ZX than a Mustang, and that I'd rather pay the repairs on such an old car than drive a new car that is horribly designed. Ford made one of the crappiest cars (excluding the pinto, yugo, etc). The engine is extrmeely underpowered, I coudl get better fuel efficiency driving a V8 Corvette, and the solid rear axle is the worst idea since fart cans on civics. I'm sorry, but these cars are just terribly engineered, and are the least bang for the buck out there. Feel free to complain all you want, but in the end, the only reason the mustang sells is because people know its name. There is no car behind the name anymore, all you buy is the name when you buy a mustang.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/10/2007 12:20:17 AM
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eaglecatcher
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Theres a reason they stopped making the 300zx.......pos
theres a real reason they stopped making them, they had such new technology at the time that they were too expensive to sell large quantities of.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/10/2007 12:29:20 AM
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06musgt
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you are basing this on your car,you car is 9 years old,nothing wrong with that but drive the 99 and newer ones and i wouldn't probably think that.quote:
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A GT would not waste a 300ZX. even the NA, it woudl be close. I've seen guys in NA Z's race GT's, and they only lost by about a length or so. The TT would kill the GT any day, but for the NA to hold its own, thats pretty impressive against a car with 2 more cylinders and 1.6 more L of displacement and about 80 more horsepower.
Don't forget thoguh, straight line racing is not the only kind of racing. On a track, a Z will beat a mustang like a red headed step child in the twisties.
true but hte mustang is set up as a stright line preformer. always has been
Yes, but not all driving and racing is in a straight line.
right but like i said the mustang is a stright line preformer. it was introduced when straight line drag racing was WAY more popular then "twisties" and has remained a stright line preformer since
I'm not denying that, I'm just saying that straight line racing is not the only kind of racing. A good car should perform in all areas of driving, including racing, normal driving, fuel economy, power, comfort, etc. My mustang lacks in more of those areas than not.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer - 6/10/2007 12:35:40 AM
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Sn-95 Gts aren't that fast unless you get lucky and can find a 94-95 5.0 for cheap, then you can make it fast for fairly cheap, 96-98s suck balls stock. Look into a 99+ GT if you can afford it. A 94-98 Cobra on the other hand will probably suit you better.
i think you keep forgetting the fact that you baught a built car, any stang that says "GT" and was made from 1994-1998 is about as fast as a 99-04 6, they slooooowwwwwwwww
I know that they aren't the fastest things on the market, but they are still faster than a 99-04 V6, point is, if you can buy one for $3000, you can spend an additional $1500 and if you can do the work yourself, you can bolt on up to another 80 or more rwhp, not that bad for an old engine. 250-260 rwhp for $4000-$5000, not too bad sounding to me. Hell for $3K for the car and $3.5K for an S/C you can have a 325 rwhp car for $6500, still not too shabby, and that's still on an otherwise stock engine. Tell me how many newer cars have that potential.
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