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Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 12:45:34 PM   
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I've tried a combination of wax products and techniques. I never get the results I want from multiple coats. I remove the wax with clean microfiber towels by hand and also try with my random orbit polisher. The wax comes off, but I am left with smudges that look like finger prints. For instance, I put down a coat of Meguiars cleaner wax on Friday and Gold Class on Saturday and the Gold Class did not leave a deep shine that I wanted. I ended up going over entire car with detail spray. The instructitons for the Gold Class say wax whole car, then wipe whole car. It was a humid day. Does it take lots more time for wax to dry when more layers are applied?

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 12:48:08 PM   
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some waxes have bonding issues with other waxes

does it leave "streaks" that look oily?


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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 12:52:08 PM   
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Did you take the Meguiars cleaner wax off before applying the Gold Class paste wax.
Get some of Justin's Wet Glaze and Wet Wax - obsessivedetail.com.  Try that and you'll get a beautiful deep red Mustang


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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 1:16:21 PM   
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does it leave "streaks" that look oily?


YES! I have also seen this happen when I begin with Klasse All in One then apply 2 coats of carnauba. First coat is fine, second gives me the streaks.

Do I have wax buildup? I notice it more on my hood than anywhere else of course because of the black.



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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 1:35:29 PM   
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try applying 1 section at a time opposed to the whole vehicle only so the wax wont dry up into the paint. Black requires more work and time.

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 1:38:54 PM   
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Did you take the Meguiars cleaner wax off before applying the Gold Class paste wax.


You mean am I blond?

Thank you for suggesting Obsessive. Have heard lots of good comments about Poorboys too. I have a garage full of products, but I wouldn't mind spending the money if my search for perfection is over.

My perfect world: cleaner/polish/glaze twice a year and carnauba whenever feel like it, every weekend if I'm in the mood.


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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 2:11:17 PM   
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Im not calling you blonde but you stated that you applied wax to the whole entire car before buffing off. So I only suggested that you work a panel at a time is all.

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 2:21:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Margarita Girl

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does it leave "streaks" that look oily?


YES! I have also seen this happen when I begin with Klasse All in One then apply 2 coats of carnauba. First coat is fine, second gives me the streaks.

Do I have wax buildup? I notice it more on my hood than anywhere else of course because of the black.



i've noticed that only some kinds of waxs bond with only other cerntant kinds (thats hard to word) example: i can use meguiar's nxt paste wax and top it with a liquid carnuba wax and be okay, but i cant use a liquid carnuba wax and top with a paste wax, or i get streaks etc.

if it was me, i'd clay all your wax off and rewax with your favorite wax.

this is my favorite wax to date



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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 2:34:50 PM   
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Margarita Girl-You should give my new line a try.  I would go with the Light Polish followed by the Wet Glaze, then top with the Wet Wax.  This will make your paint really deep and wet looking.  I guarantee you will be happy!

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 2:40:55 PM   
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Sorry, the response came across as if I didn't take off the cleaner wax before applying the Gold.

I did go back and just do the hood again, but still got the streaks.

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 2:45:35 PM   
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I would go with the Light Polish followed by the Wet Glaze, then top with the Wet Wax.


Juztang, thanks, I was wondering when I'd hear from you.

Will the polish work like a cleaner and give me a fresh start? Polish and Glaze synthetic and wax carnauba?

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 2:54:17 PM   
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Yes the polish will give you a fresh start.  It will also correct some light swirls and bring out more shine and reflection, it is a great finishing polish.  The glaze is acrylic and it will make your paint feel super slick plus make the paint look deep and wet.  The wax is made with Brazilian carnauba which is the best grade of carnauba, it goes on real easy and comes off easy.  You can also use it in the sun.  It won't streak either.

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 3:59:21 PM   
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I guarantee you will be happy!


Hear that boys. That's what they all say.

OK Justin, I call. If you ship my order quick I can try all three this weekend.

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 7:08:56 PM   
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It has already went out USPS Priority.  You should see it by this weekend!

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 7:40:41 PM   
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Yes, humidity IS a factor in wax cure time... Did you perform "the swipe test" before removing the wax?

FWIW, Meguiars does have an online forum at http://meguiarsonline.com/ that is excellent for troubleshooting and product info. In addition, you can reach them at http://www.meguiars.com/customercare/ or call the help line at 1-800-347-5700.

With all that said, I'm not a believer in layering waxes. Every layer of wax after the first just takes away clarity - nothing becomes "clearer" as it becomes "thicker". Wax is only a protectant, shine comes from the paint surface.


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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/6/2007 8:47:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: S281SC

Yes, humidity IS a factor in wax cure time... Did you perform "the swipe test" before removing the wax?

FWIW, Meguiars does have an online forum at http://meguiarsonline.com/ that is excellent for troubleshooting and product info. In addition, you can reach them at http://www.meguiars.com/customercare/ or call the help line at 1-800-347-5700.

With all that said, I'm not a believer in layering waxes. Every layer of wax after the first just takes away clarity - nothing becomes "clearer" as it becomes "thicker". Wax is only a protectant, shine comes from the paint surface.



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I have always loved using just one coat of Meguiars gold class, one body panel at a time.


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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/10/2007 10:25:43 PM   
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Juztang,
You mention the cleaner / polish, Glaze and wax. What brand combination do you sell? Is there a package for just the three?  What a about a quick detailer for thein betweens wax jobs?
I would like to get the three but not sure which? How often do you need to apply each or should you apply all at same time. Once a year, twice a year etc? 

How does your stuff compare to Mequiare?

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/10/2007 11:01:49 PM   
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Rob

My new line of products have already had excellent reviews.  For a good 3 step I would go with my Light Polish,Wet Glaze, and Wet Wax.  This will give a really deep and wet look plus good protection.  I also have a couple of excellent quick detailers.  My Fast Shine and Waterless Wash Plus Carnauba also work very well, they don't streak and add at on of gloss between waxes.

I would only do the 3 step every 6 months or so.  You can put the wax on whenever you like.

I used Megiuars for several years.  I started using Poorboy's,ClearKote,Optimum, etc. a few years ago and was really blown away by the quality and ease of use. My brand plus the brands I mentioned can also be applied in the direct sunlight and don't have any residue like many other brands have.  I actually used most of these brands before I started becoming a distributor, I kinda just fell into the distributor thing one day.  I use all of these products in my detail business and couldn't be happier.

Let me know if you have anymore product questions.  You can pm, e-mail me or just respond to this post...whatever works best for you!

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/11/2007 8:50:27 AM   
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Thanks Juzstang,
So im going to order the 3 products and the quick detailer... Is there a part number or brand name description I need on your web site? I have some Turtle wax qucik detailer and maguires quick detailer is it ok to use them over your products? I hate to throw away money.

Sorry for all the questions I just want to be sure Im not going to screw things up.

Rob

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RE: Wax: trouble with multiple coats - 6/11/2007 9:38:51 AM   
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Rob

Here is the direct link to my Obsessive Detail product line. 
http://www.obsessivedetail.com/ObsessiveDetailProducts.html

So here is the exact name of each product:

Light Polish
Wet Glaze
Wet Wax
Fast Shine or Waterless Wash quick detailer-which ever one you decide on, they both are excellent products.

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