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<snip> But I DO NOT LIKE THE IMPLICATION THAT I AM WRONG OR FOOLISH IN MY PERSUIT OF RESTORATION. <snip>
Is this a common occurance Jim? Perhaps I'm completely oblivious, but this is the first I have time I have seen this concern raised on this board.
Although I've seen plenty of the get that POS Holley, Edelbrock, et al, carbs off of there and get the Autolite that came with it (never mind the fact that the engine itself may be far from stock) but have yet to see anything along the lines of get that POS Autolite off of your stock engine and put on a throw-me-down double pumper Holley.
I will certainly keep that in mind future postings.
With respect to topics that might better fit into a separate forum
Probably most of the suspension swap discussions would fit there as well. They all 'work' somewhat differently than OE (particularly the rear), and generally require different spring/shock/sta-bar tuning to work properly. In the rear, I'm talking about 3-links, torque arms, laydown coil spring sort of stuff here, as opposed to different leaf springs. IRS is a given. There has been talk of a DeDion, and at least one oddball street rod kit. Up front, there are tubular control arms, Mac struts, Mustang II-based swaps, etc. Several kits already exist, and others are still under development. These threads can get rather heavy on theory.
Extensive chassis mods probably belong there as well. These tend to be one-of-a-kind or extremely limited production. If you're even thinking along this line, you should know that you're way past simple bolt-ons and standard-ish rebuilds. It might be a coin toss, but tranny swaps that require lifting the tunnel probably qualify here, as the tunnel is a major structural element in these cars, particularly in the convertibles.
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So then why don't we have a concorse section for those who want to go strickly OEM. OEM subforum where people can find information and ask specific questions relating to OEM parts. And leave the current section the way it is for all general sort of questions?
The majority of people want to perform upgrades to brakes and other safety upgrades. Then there are the people who want to go show car OEM style.
That makes sense to me. Glen can handle the OEM sub-section and someone else can handle the other section. That would be a good solution to the problem also.
Instead of: Classic Mustangs (presently one mod for all)
or: Stock and Restomod (as suggested in this poll, with two different mods)
or: Stock and Modified (my original suggestion, with two different mods)
how about: Classic Mustangs (as it is now except with a new moderator) with a sub-forum for concourse/OEM (moderated by Glen)
< Message edited by NorCalTroy -- 6/5/2007 8:56:29 PM >
You guys can't just basically demote Glen because he can be aggressive about what he believes in. By saying that you are taking a low blow, insulting his moderating skills and saying he should be gone.
I stick outta the threads when heat starts to pick up or I get the tail end of it. I don't know what Soarings stand is on stock vs. non-stock but it sounds like he is all for stock cars. With an OEM subforum we wouldn't need a new moderator. He can mod both, like said previously he's knows alot about mustangs. If the owners of the site decide to get a new mod then its their decision. We have no right to choose who, what and where people mod.
Jim - Agreed. We're starting to drift from the original topic a bit.
And the art of compromise is that everybody gives a little in order that everybody wins.
Jim - This topic has been moving too fast* for me to acknowledge that you were probably right about "equal footing", and that I probably reached a bit too far with my phrasing. Would you agree with "reasonably equal footing"?.
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Jim - Agreed. We're starting to drift from the original topic a bit.
And the art of compromise is that everybody gives a little in order that everybody wins.
Jim - This topic has been moving too fast for me to acknowledge that you were probably right about "equal footing", and that I probably reached a bit too far with my phrasing. Would you agree with "reasonably equal footing"?.
see what I mean
Norm
I can agree with you on both points, and I want to ensure that there is no friction between the two of us even though we see things a little bit differently on this particular issue. I have always enjoied your posts and admired the depth and expression of your automotive knowledge. Thank You!!
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Jim - Agreed. We're starting to drift from the original topic a bit.
And the art of compromise is that everybody gives a little in order that everybody wins.
Jim - This topic has been moving too fast* for me to acknowledge that you were probably right about "equal footing", and that I probably reached a bit too far with my phrasing. Would you agree with "reasonably equal footing"?.
* see what I mean
Norm
I agree with that part. It started as whether or not we wanted seperate forums, then turned into a "cyber war", with Soaring vs. Restomods
Hey, Glen rubbed me the wrong when when I first started here (he hates my "restomod" seats), but now I love the guy, yes, he's a cranky ol' Texan, but I'm a crazy ol' Californian, so we are all even now.
I don't want the classic forum to split in two, this is the ONLY forum I bother to post, I absolutely have NO interest whatsoever in any of the other forums in here, if this forum splits in two, Classic & Restomod, I'm going to be lost in trying to decide which one I wanna post in, remember, I'm the ONE forum post dude, lol.
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Mustang Forums - Rules
2. While debating and discussion is fine, respect your fellow enthusiasts. Being of a diverse background, members are likely to express different opinions, and while opinions may differ from yours, they are just that, opinions; and everyone is entitled to express theirs freely. We will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, or personal attacks. Do not flame, bother, bug, disrespect, hound or taunt ANYONE on the forums or through private messaging or chat room. If we feel a thread is getting out of hand we will close or delete it. You can/will lose your posting privileges if you continue this type of behavior
Seems to me pretty simple If you dont have something to contribute to a subject, stay out of it. If everyone followed this rule, we wouldn't be having this debate about separating restos and classics.
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So then why don't we have a concorse section for those who want to go strickly OEM. OEM subforum where people can find information and ask specific questions relating to OEM parts. And leave the current section the way it is for all general sort of questions?
The majority of people want to perform upgrades to brakes and other safety upgrades. Then there are the people who want to go show car OEM style.
We don'thave any trailer queen concours cars on here. So, that section would never get visited. 99.9 % of you guys have no problem with how the section is run. There's only one that is a thorn in my side. So, not to worry. Just keep on asking the questions and you guys with the answers keep on answering them. Ignore what someone says that you don't like. Afterall, this is not a Utopia.
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Mustang Forums - Rules
2. While debating and discussion is fine, respect your fellow enthusiasts. Being of a diverse background, members are likely to express different opinions, and while opinions may differ from yours, they are just that, opinions; and everyone is entitled to express theirs freely. We will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, or personal attacks. Do not flame, bother, bug, disrespect, hound or taunt ANYONE on the forums or through private messaging or chat room. If we feel a thread is getting out of hand we will close or delete it. You can/will lose your posting privileges if you continue this type of behavior
Seems to me pretty simple If you dont have something to contribute to a subject, stay out of it. If everyone followed this rule, we wouldn't be having this debate about separating restos and classics.
Our moderator doesn't want to follow those rules though, so unfortunately that doesn't help our situation. Also, it doesn't address the locking/moving/deleting of on-topic posts regarding classic Mustang modifications not approved by him.
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We don'thave any trailer queen concours cars on here. So, that section would never get visited. 99.9 % of you guys have no problem with how the section is run. There's only one that is a thorn in my side. So, not to worry. Just keep on asking the questions and you guys with the answers keep on answering them. Ignore what someone says that you don't like. Afterall, this is not a Utopia.
That doesn't address the locking/moving/deleting of on-topic posts regarding classic Mustang modifications not approved by you either. Why do you do that?
We don'thave any trailer queen concours cars on here. So, that section would never get visited. 99.9 % of you guys have no problem with how the section is run. There's only one that is a thorn in my side. So, not to worry. Just keep on asking the questions and you guys with the answers keep on answering them. Ignore what someone says that you don't like. Afterall, this is not a Utopia.
That doesn't address the locking/moving/deleting of on-topic posts regarding classic Mustang modifications not approved by you either. Why do you do that?
You guys, and especially you NorCalTroy are completely off topic. This thread was started by me to get some feedback about how you feel about separating the section into two sections. Obvioulsly a vast majarority feel it needs to remain status quo. Stick to the topic or face deletion. It's that simple
We don'thave any trailer queen concours cars on here. So, that section would never get visited. 99.9 % of you guys have no problem with how the section is run. There's only one that is a thorn in my side. So, not to worry. Just keep on asking the questions and you guys with the answers keep on answering them. Ignore what someone says that you don't like. Afterall, this is not a Utopia.
... and there's the problem Glen. You think (and act like) this is your forum to run.
It's not. It's all of ours, and you do not choose to recognize or respect that.
All we ask is that you take your own advice...and "ignore what someone says you don't like"... then we wouldn't be having this 6 page discussion.....
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Please don't split it up, I learn alot from the stock and retomod guys!
This is the whole issue in a nutshell, we are all better off if we can find a way to co-exist.
As stated before, the inability of these two camps to co-exist in the same place is not a new phenomenon, I believe that the vast majority of the posters on this section would like to find a way for these two camps to get along with each other, even if we can't always agree with each other.
I think if this can be done, the exceptional people in this section can make it happen,,,,, if we decide this is what we want to do.
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