Two 715 Holley's,which were rereleased versions(by Holley) of the carbs that Ford put on some 427's from the factory. And,yes they woke up the potential that was always there. The 11.5 Pistons and hyd roller don't hurt either.
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It's one thing to ignore the derogatory posts made by people (or moderators) who break the rules. Although it shouldn't require one, that is a relatively easy, self-imposed solution to that problem.
It's an entirely different thing to be denied the information provided in on-topic threads that are locked/moved/deleted because they don't agree with the moderator's opinions on what should and should not be done to a classic Mustang.
The person who would do that should be relieved of his duties. Period.
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The car we are building (JMD) is definately not a stock restoration. Even though it is not I have no problem with the section or the moderator ( In fact I am looking foreward to going to TX for the car show and perhaps a little golf and some drinks ) There are so many good informants on both sides of either being modified or stock and a lot of times it helps to have both. It would be rediculous for the sections to split. A few of you take things to seriously and need to kick back and relax( things are not half bad)
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IMO this whole subject is a waste of time.
I do not agree with either "extreme position" regarding this issue as a whole, I think that both extreme positions are both right in some regards, and wrong in some regards, and the answer to the problem should be met with an agreement to disagree for all parties involved.
We need to face the facts that the "concours vs. modified" argument has been going on since long before anyone was a member of this forum, and it will likely go on untill long after the internal combustion engine has been outlawed. Since no one is going to change anothers opinion on the subject at hand we would all be better off not ignoring or getting pissed off about the situation, but instead by making the best of it.
I see alot of people here giving Glen a hard way to go, I have been sideways with him in the past over nothing really, just a hurt ego. In any case, he has done much for the classic section and I think he has earned more respect than he is getting here.
I don't know if anyone else here has noticed, but I think Glen has tried to accept the idea of restomods and tried to get along with everyone, but I think that we are all captive to our opinions to one degree or another, he is no different. The older we get the more captive we become. In other words, I believe that we all know what we should do, but knowing and doing are two very different things. I could stand to loose some weight, but knowing this and doing this are two different things.
Perhaps it would not hurt any of us to swallow our pride and give Glen the benifit of the doubt on this one, and try to get along.
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And mechanically I just finished my wife's '65 F/B today - what a shame, I was so excited to post pics and what I had learned so far along the way. What a great journey it is/was. <snip>
BS! You post the pics and stories now mister!
Seriously, don't let one or two guys with chips on their shoulder deny you the pride of displaying your handiwork and us from seeing it and learning from your experiences.
I, myself would love to see the photos of the build. As far as the "Resto-Classic" debate, you know where my vote went (split'em up). Just got back from Carlisle All Ford Nationals were I had the pleasure of meeting and parking beside "69boss429" as part of the "Invivational display". What a great time we had. We literally talked to hundreds people. Not once did I ever hear a derogatory comment made about any of the cars in the display. Why can't that be that way on here? Same ole horse, different day. Again, I would love to see a "Restomod" section in "Mustang Forums".
nice car boss! my dad was bidding on a dual quad intake for his 70 boss 9 on ebay not to long ago, he set his max bid to about 3 grand as i recall (auction sniper) then when he went back to check it it sold for 8!! the car is a beast off the line but with a 5th gear and more carbage it would be super car territory. anyway, back to the thread (sorry for gettin OT)
nice car boss! my dad was bidding on a dual quad intake for his 70 boss 9 on ebay not to long ago, he set his max bid to about 3 grand as i recall (auction sniper) then when he went back to check it it sold for 8!! the car is a beast off the line but with a 5th gear and more carbage it would be super car territory. anyway, back to the thread (sorry for gettin OT)
It's 78% to 21%,so I think were beating a dead horse here. Blue Thunder repops the 2x4 manifold.Ford only cast about 16 originals.I was lucky enough to buy mine in 1972 from Holman and Moody
I do not agree with either "extreme position" regarding this issue as a whole, I think that both extreme positions are both right in some regards, and wrong in some regards, and the answer to the problem should be met with an agreement to disagree for all parties involved.
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Perhaps it would not hurt any of us to swallow our pride and give Glen the benifit of the doubt on this one, and try to get along.
If we were all on the same footing, member status-wise, that's precisely the way it would work. But that just brings us right back to where this all started. I've seen this scenario play out elsewhere. Once, and only very briefly at that.
I understand that as you get older that opinions tend to become more rigid, and that it's easy to backslide even as you attempt to adapt to new circumstances. I know that Glen has listened to a few suggestions, but perhaps some of this stuff represents too big of a step to swallow in a single bite.
It's not that splitting this forum is a particularly desirable thing to do in and of itself. What I'd hope is that it be the path of least disturbance/disruption, with the overall benefit outweighing the negatives. I don't see the possibility of merging them back together at some future time being ruled out.
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If we were all on the same footing, member status-wise, that's precisely the way it would work. But that just brings us right back to where this all started. I've seen this scenario play out elsewhere. Once, and only very briefly at that.
I understand that as you get older that opinions tend to become more rigid, and that it's easy to backslide even as you attempt to adapt to new circumstances. I know that Glen has listened to a few suggestions, but perhaps some of this stuff represents too big of a step to swallow in a single bite.
It's not that splitting this forum is a particularly desirable thing to do in and of itself. What I'd hope is that it be the path of least disturbance/disruption, with the overall benefit outweighing the negatives. I don't see the possibility of merging them back together at some future time being ruled out. Norm
I am not trying to minimize what you are saying, but realizing that everyone is not on the same footing is part of life that we should all learn to live with. It seems that we as Americans are a little more concerned about what is "fair" than the real issues at hand, I do not think that this discussion is an exception to this observation.
While I agree that the forum should choose the path of least disturbance, I disagree that spliting the section is the best thing to do. My contention is that I don't really like to see a thread moved, locked, or deleted, but if it does, so what? Really, no one is getting hurt.
IMO, we are getting side tracked on what we might see as the negative aspects of the forum while disregarding the good aspects. A search for perfection on this earth will certainly leave us disapointed!
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My contention is that I don't really like to see a thread moved, locked, or deleted, but if it does, so what? Really, no one is getting hurt.
I suppose you are correct that no one is really getting hurt when on-topic threads get moved/locked/deleted. But how many people does it help? Isn't the whole point of having a classic Mustang forum to help people with classic Mustangs? There is a huge difference between not hurting someone and actually helping them. No one is getting hurt by leaving the threads in place either, so why not just do that?
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My contention is that I don't really like to see a thread moved, locked, or deleted, but if it does, so what? Really, no one is getting hurt.
I suppose you are correct that no one is really getting hurt when on-topic threads get moved/locked/deleted. But how many people does it help? Isn't the whole point of having a classic Mustang forum to help people with classic Mustangs? There is a huge difference between not hurting someone and actually helping them. No one is getting hurt by leaving the threads in place either.
We can "But" each other all day long, but still, IMO, it is really not a big deal.
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So then me adding disc brakes to my car would make it a restomod? Wow.
I can see it now with two sections, someone who has by the definition changed their car will ask a question and it will get sent to the classic section where the mod will see its a restomod stang and move it right back where it will get locked or some form of tug-a-war will take place.
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So then me adding disc brakes to my car would make it a restomod? Wow.
I can see it now with two sections, someone who has by the definition changed their car will ask a question and it will get sent to the classic section where the mod will see its a restomod stang and move it right back where it will get locked or some form of tug-a-war will take place.
Kind of like a man without a country, (remember that story), where the traitor is transfered from ship to ship, never coming ashore.....
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So then me adding disc brakes to my car would make it a restomod? Wow.
I can see it now with two sections, someone who has by the definition changed their car will ask a question and it will get sent to the classic section where the mod will see its a restomod stang and move it right back where it will get locked or some form of tug-a-war will take place.
I see your point, and a good one. I suppose we would have to have a really good definition of what exactly is a restomod. Questions like changing from a 2 barrel to a 4 barrel would stay on the classic section, and switching from a carburetor to an EFI setup would go to the restomod section perhaps? I don't know, I didn't come up with the idea in the first place.
I see your point, and a good one. I suppose we would have to have a really good definition of what exactly is a restomod. Questions like changing from a 2 barrel to a 4 barrel would stay on the classic section, and switching from a carburetor to an EFI setup would go to the restomod section perhaps? I don't know, I didn't come up with the idea in the first place.
the thing is, to me, EFI is about the only mod I can think of that would indicate "restomod" when done by itself. Maybe IRS, would fall into that group too, but I don't see to many posts on that subject anyway.
The thing is, most little mods by themselves are no big deal (as you said 2bbl to 4 is no biggie). So I'd guess 99% of all the mod topics would still stay in the classic forum anyway.
edit: to clarify, I'm not disagreeing with you Soaring. I'm just pointing out a large problem with having 2 sections.
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My turn. - I get pissed off when someone asks a general question and the 'restomod' crowd's first line of response is to modify the car in question. - I get pissed off when someone asks a specific component question and get evasive answers that lead to put in a bigger engine. - I get pissed off when a new member asks a question about why his car stalls or won't start and the thread winds up with some asinine statement about a whole new whatever. I prefer to restore cars - (Websters - to bring back to a former or normal state..) not to modify (Websters - to change slightly..) them. I use the word 'prefer' because I have done modifications that would boggle your minds to a lots of stuff, cars included. But I DO NOT LIKE THE IMPLICATION THAT I AM WRONG OR FOOLISH IN MY PERSUIT OF RESTORATION. Glen and I are about the same age where being contentious and cantankerous are a badge of honor. We earned it. You can sufferer thru it. You will get there soon enough. I will make not extensive effort to insult you or you car but I will make it a point NOT to assist someone on this forum that I find to be contemptible. On the other hand, I enjoy the antic of some of the younger members, hell, I've got wine in my collection older than most of them. When a tire don't fit, I laugh - been there, done that - and I got experience out of the situation, I've managed to have done it twice. I've sent private e-mails to a few on the this forum in responce to there querry's and got many positive replys. I've given advice in many instances where no-one else would bother. That's about it - except one more thing , maybe two - this is not a thirty minuite sit-com world. Patience is a good thing, take your time and do it right. And to the 'text-message' set - got back to school, take an 'English as a First Language' course and learn to communicate. Jim
So then why don't we have a concorse section for those who want to go strickly OEM. OEM subforum where people can find information and ask specific questions relating to OEM parts. And leave the current section the way it is for all general sort of questions?
The majority of people want to perform upgrades to brakes and other safety upgrades. Then there are the people who want to go show car OEM style.
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Just kidd'in. There were ladder bars on the rear when I got it. They disapeared when ther rear was overhauled.