Posts: 542
Joined: 9/13/2006 From: Sacramento, CA Status: offline
quote:
ORIGINAL: Tony R
I'm not saying name calling is fun and if glen is like that it still isnt going to change his personality by moving him to another section.
I'm not trying to change Glen, I have already been told several times that that is NOT going to happen. Since that is not going to happen, I think an area where we, as modification friendly Mustang owners, can talk about our cars and the changes that we make to them without his interference.
Posts: 3147
Joined: 1/18/2007 From: Las Cruces, NM Status: offline
I guess my son and I are doing a restomod to one extent or another,,, but I really enjoy this section, even with it's "issues"... Hell,,, I have "issues" with my wife and kids,,,, but seperation aint always the best solution,,, I think we should vocalize our opinions, even vigorously, and then agree to disagree when we can't find common ground.
As I have said many times, there has always been a rift between those who like "stock" and those who like "modified", this will not change,,, ever. We can make the most of this rift, and run the risk of learning somthing, or we can disregard the other point of view and remain ignorant to the fact that valid opinions can exist that differ from the opinions that we hold as our own.
I mean it's not like we are discussing religion or politics here,,,, it is not likely that someone will actually die because of the different positions that "stock people" and "modified people" hold. The most I have seen getting hurt here are feelings,, I am of the opinion that the feelings of grown men (and women) will grow back if allow them to.
I think that most of the disagreements here actually add flavor to the forum, especially when the discourse remains more or less "civil". Besides, each of us is going to do what we want with our cars, regardless of (and sometimes in spite of) what others think.
_____________________________
66 Coupe I-6 Conversion, 408 Windsor, Tremec TKO 600 Wilwood fronts, SSBC Rears 9" Track Loc.
Posts: 181
Joined: 6/15/2006 From: West Virginia Status: offline
I think I may want to change my vote also. I know that I dont "post" here often, but I can assure you that I frequent these boards daily, I just like to observe and I don't feel the need to comment on every thread. I notice Glen hates the idea of talking about anything that is not "original", but the truth is, not very many of us have numbers matching cars, does that mean they are not classics? The above referenced thread goes to show that our "moderator" is out of line. Besides, a motorcraft carb is just a generic version of a Holley.
I vote, that we either get seperate sections, or a new moderator.
I definitely think it should remain one forum, like stated previously, you can modify your stang all you want but you still have a classic, and we can all learn from one another.
Maybe in the post heading you could add "Resto" or "RM?" to designate restomod question, then those who don't prefer restomods could choose to not read and/or post in the forum. I think theres room for young and old.
Isn't "restomod" defined as part restoration, part modification? Seems silly to have it become solely "mod" and "resto." If you seperate them, it's going to create 2 of the same forum.
Posts: 3147
Joined: 1/18/2007 From: Las Cruces, NM Status: offline
quote:
ORIGINAL: 428coupe
I think I may want to change my vote also.
I think that you should certainly vote the way you choose, but at the risk of offending, I don't think that you need to change any vote.
Taking the entirty of your post into consideration, I am going to need to beg your pardon for my thinking that you ever even considered voting for anything other than seperation.
I can respect your opinion, but your presentation tends to make me think that you are atempting to insult my inteligence...
_____________________________
66 Coupe I-6 Conversion, 408 Windsor, Tremec TKO 600 Wilwood fronts, SSBC Rears 9" Track Loc.
nah leave it alone. hey im all for restomods, my car is more restomod than factory spec, but its an internet forum and really we all love mustangs. if someone says your digital gauges are gay and that offends you and makes you decide not to get them or something, youve got bigger problems then wether or not their should be a restomod vs classic section on a mustang forum.
That is just a quick search of his last posts. Imagine out of the 15,700 posts that he has, how many of them are abusive.
There is no denying his knowledge, Glen is probably one of the most knowledgeable Mustang guys I have ever seen, however, the abuse makes his knowledge worthless!
choice 1= create a 2nd section so that Glen doesn't have to grow up and start being polite to restomoders. And as a result, everyone has to go search two places for help. or choice 2= put up with Glen's inmature negativity towards restomods.
Is it really too much to ask for Glen to keep his restomod comments to himself or ask the restomoder's to ignore his efforts to get a rise out of them???
Posts: 542
Joined: 9/13/2006 From: Sacramento, CA Status: offline
quote:
ORIGINAL: five pt oh
this is total BS.
The reality of this poll is:
choice 1= create a 2nd section so that Glen doesn't have to grow up and start being polite to restomoders. And as a result, everyone has to go search two places for help. or choice 2= put up with Glen's inmature negativity towards restomods.
Is it really too much to ask for Glen to keep his restomod comments to himself or ask the restomoder's to ignore his efforts to get a rise out of them???
Glen has already been asked (several times) to modify his behavior, however as I have posted before he "doesn't answer to anyone". I wish I could post some of the PM conversations that he and I have had, but it is against the forum rules to do so.
I also think that a better way to word the poll would be to have a Modified sub-section and a Stock sub-section of the classic section or leave as is. That would be the proper unbiased way to word it.
I voted to leave it alone. But, reading all the posts has changed my mind. No offense to the classic guys, but I think theyd'e be searching the restomad section. I think a restomod section would draw a lot of people. Besides, several months ago this topic came up with my EFI post and I said that it would be pretty lonely over there Who will be the restomod administrator. I vote JamesW.
to me its just a mustang only ones like the twister mach1 or shelbys should be restored rest are up to you they are high production cars i know alot of people think there car is rare but face the facts its not to me rare is 6 or less made ever. look at the street rods anyone have a restored 32 ford with a flathead nothing changed it on it. its a car you should enjoy driving it not worried about if it will stop with the none power drums. alot of parts on the early mustang where changed by ford later on for reasons like the points. look at how much changed between 73 and 74
Posts: 6858
Joined: 10/10/2005 From: brunstank ga Status: online
i dont think we need a seperte section for restomods we need out own off topic
_____________________________
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Posts: 1420
Joined: 7/5/2006 From: Long Beach, CA Status: offline
I think its fine to be all in one section. the section is called CLASSIC MUSTANGS not CONCOURS CLASSIC MUSTANGS. This classic mustang section should be open to EVERYONE whether they restomod or keep it like it was. We are all mustang guys (and even gals) and shouldn't be split under two groups.
However, NorCalTroy and JamesW as well as other members raise very valid issues. I just think we should be left alone in one group, but indeed the chastising and name calling HAS to stop. It all comes down to all of us loving classic mustangs, this forum, and its members. We all just need to get along despite difference of opinion when it comes to how you chose to build your car.
SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL, GANG WARS mustang forums edition, restomodders vs. conroursers. i think teh restomoders will use advanced technology to kick ayus, but the concours guys will use tire irons and such to lay a smack down, TWO TEAMS ENTER, ONE TEAM LEAVES!! there can be ONLY ONE!!!!!!
Splitting the board makes no sense. Once you've upgraded tires or brakes, or carb, or air conditioning or radio or headlights or shocks or exhasut, or wiring, or anyone of a hundred little things, you no longer have a "pure" Mustang. Did we learn nothing from the Germans? Do we relly want a "master race" of Mustang Nazis?
Let's be honest here. The issue is Glenn.
He is an amazing resource for all of us. I greatly respect his knowledge and appreciate his willingness to share. I have learned more from him in the last 9 months than dozen Mustang books I have purchased. Yet, he is also very moody. One day he's tolerant of us ""freaks" the next day he hates us. He makes me think, he makes me laugh, he makes me really pissed off. And I suspect we do the same to him.
If I could send him a chill pill I would.
I say be kind to him.
We like you, Glen. And I - for one - do not want to leave "home".
ORIGINAL: NorCalTroy Glen has already been asked (several times) to modify his behavior, however as I have posted before he "doesn't answer to anyone". I wish I could post some of the PM conversations that he and I have had, but it is against the forum rules to do so.
I also think that a better way to word the poll would be to have a Modified sub-section and a Stock sub-section of the classic section or leave as is. That would be the proper unbiased way to word it.
oh yeah, it's out of control all right. We should get a new mod for this section and then let Glen mod a subsection.
quote:
ORIGINAL: EmperorOfChicken
SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL, GANG WARS mustang forums edition, restomodders vs. conroursers. i think teh restomoders will use advanced technology to kick ayus, but the concours guys will use tire irons and such to lay a smack down, TWO TEAMS ENTER, ONE TEAM LEAVES!! there can be ONLY ONE!!!!!!
no reason to pick on all the concoursers when only one of them is causing significant problems.
Timelockmind- I fully agree with everything you wrote. The only difference for me is that in the short time I've been here, I've already seen this come up over and over, and he's proved he's not going chill. At least not for very long.
quote:
ORIGINAL: EmperorOfChicken
joke five point oh <-- joke face
I know it was a joke...and it was rather funny. At the same time, I don't want anyone to get the impression that there are teams here.
As I see it, we have one guy being offensive, several guys being insulted, and then a whole mess of us that keep getting caught up in the middle. If there were teams, I'd expect to see at least one other person attacking the restomoders the way Soaring does. That just isn't the case. Heck, my car might be even more stock than his, and I don't even agree with bias against the restomod guys. At any rate, I don't want anyone to think that there is "anti restomod team".
anyway, I knew it was a joke. I was just making a point.
Printable Version
RE: Restomod and Classic separate sections vote - 
Hell,,, I have "issues" with my wife and kids,,,, but seperation aint always the best solution,,, 
I think we should vocalize our opinions, even vigorously, and then agree to disagree when we can't find common ground. 
