the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
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03 GT 5spd Hellion 62mm w/Flowmaster cat back, Forged shortblock, UPR kmember with MMR A arms and MMR coilovers, svt focus pump w/BAP, SCT BA3000 coming: ported heads, turbo cams, aeromotive fuel system
Just what I was looking for. WHat about a eaton M90 for a head unit? I seen one of these for under 400 on ebay
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the eaton m90 is a completely different type of blower. Theres no way you could use that as a head unit in one of these vortech kits. Its a roots style blower that sits on top of the motor and the vortech is a centrifugal that mounts on the front of the timing cover....
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03 GT 5spd Hellion 62mm w/Flowmaster cat back, Forged shortblock, UPR kmember with MMR A arms and MMR coilovers, svt focus pump w/BAP, SCT BA3000 coming: ported heads, turbo cams, aeromotive fuel system
the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
where can u find an iat sensor?? like how much is it??
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Good info!!!! I've recently been working on this myself. I managed to pick up a polished V-1 s-trim with a bunch of extras for 1100. I'm really only interested in the head unit itself and have a bunch of extras for sale extremely cheap ( polished bracket for an 01, intake tube-needs filter and couplers, aftercooler setup minus the ice box, wiring and hoses).
If anyone needs them send me a PM.
Again, GREAT INFO!!!!! perfect way to show those pesky LS1 cars whats up.
im am still a little new to the superchargers. so my question is whats the difference between the vortech heads (v1,v2,etc..) also what type of HP could i make on a supercharged v6 mustang?
Edit: also whats the advantages of supercharging over turbocharging a mustang? and turbocharing over supercharging
< Message edited by jv101 -- 4/27/2008 9:50:40 AM >
Here is a pic of the 94-04 V6 mustang kit quoted from vortech...." The addition of the V2-SQ S-Trim supercharger on the 94-98 V6 will increase horsepower from 150 to 215 and increase torque from 215 to 259lb./ft, On the 99-00 V6 horsepower will increase from 193 to 278 and increase torque from 225 to 286lb./ft."
I could not find any quotes for power numbers on the 01-04 v6 cars. But I know for a fact that the same kit fits all 94-04 engines. The whole kit is $4600 from vortech for the 99-00 models and $3600 for the 94-98 models. The 99-00 kit comes with larger injectors and ECM module, while the 94-98 kit comes with an external fuel pump and fuel management unit. This must be the only reason in price difference. I believe that the 01-04 models require a higher flowing in tank pump, larger injectors, and custom ecu tuning. I believe that is why they do not list a kit for those years but im not sure. Those HP numbers are with the stock engine on 8.5psi non intercooled. They dont sell an aftercooled version, but if someone were able to fit an intercooler on, it would make more power. Procharger sells an intercooled v6 kit for about $2800 I believe, which is not a bad deal.
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im am still a little new to the superchargers. so my question is whats the difference between the vortech heads (v1,v2,etc..) also what type of HP could i make on a supercharged v6 mustang?
Edit: also whats the advantages of supercharging over turbocharging a mustang? and turbocharing over supercharging
The v1 is loud because it has straight cut gears. The v2 is alot quieter because it has helical cut gears. I believe the gear ratio is a bit higher for the v2 also but I dont think it affects boost production very much. At least thats what Ive heard. I had the v1. You will need a head unit with a curved discharge. Lucky because those are the ones found on ebay all the time. People have trouble finding the straight discharge units. Turbos will make more power everywhere and put less drag on the engine. They make full boost alot sooner than the vortech. My 62mm should make 11psi by 3000rpm where the v1 s-trim made about 5psi at 3000 and 11psi at 6000. Still the vortech was really fun, but the turbo is going to be alot faster especially in the lower rpms...
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so would it be worth it to look into turbos over superchargers?
my goal is to make 300-400hp at the wheels, and will most likely be my daily driver (which is just to school and work... both are within 10miles of me) sorry for all the questions and questions that may come. just looking for the best bang for my buck w/o cutting corners!
so would it be worth it to look into turbos over superchargers?
my goal is to make 300-400hp at the wheels, and will most likely be my daily driver (which is just to school and work... both are within 10miles of me) sorry for all the questions and questions that may come. just looking for the best bang for my buck w/o cutting corners!
well if you can find a complete kit for around the same price as this vortech then yes it would be worth it. keep in mind that the vortech is a complete bolt on kit with a much easier installation. There have been guys that have built turbo kits for the v6 for pretty cheap, but they do all the work themselves and are good with welding. It takes more modification but in the end makes more power. The vortech is alot simpler to work with you just bolt it on and go. Its probably not going to make 3-400whp, but it will give you enough to beat GTs if you have a 99+ model. Turbo would be the way to go if your looking for big numbers.
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03 GT 5spd Hellion 62mm w/Flowmaster cat back, Forged shortblock, UPR kmember with MMR A arms and MMR coilovers, svt focus pump w/BAP, SCT BA3000 coming: ported heads, turbo cams, aeromotive fuel system
hmm. i might just plan on going w/ the supercharger what type of numbers can i pull out of a v6 mustang w/ a supercharger and flowmaster exhaust?how much boost could it handle and also what type of tuning and ECU would i need (if any)
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hmm. i might just plan on going w/ the supercharger what type of numbers can i pull out of a v6 mustang w/ a supercharger and flowmaster exhaust?how much boost could it handle and also what type of tuning and ECU would i need (if any)
what year? Cat back exhaust system will only give a couple more hp. If you really want an increase in power then you should buy a true dual kit. There is a company named Pypes that sells a complete true dual exhaust kit from the headers all the way back for $400 on ebay. It comes with an offroad x pipe and stainless 2.5 inch piping with 3 inch tips. You can get the high flow catted version for $479 i think. That would give a nice increase in power. Its probably best to keep it under 9psi while non intercooled because of the heat. If you go with a procharger you can run 10psi but theyre more expensive. The v6 vortech kit can be put together for pretty cheap. If you get the vortech you could also buy a meth injection kit to run 10 psi. You will want to buy an sct or diablosport tuning device for it, depending on what the tuner uses. It will need to be tuned on the dyno with a handheld programmer or a chip. The tuning will keep your engine running safe and will allow much more power.
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i am planning on going w/ a 1999-2001 mustang (i would still like to get a GT however i have not beenable to find one for a price i like! so i am looking at all my options)
i called summit up today and asked what their pricing was on flowmaster exhaust and got a price of $500ish. I really like the sound of the dual flowmaster super 40's!
if you want you can message me (so i dont clutter this thread up anymore)
the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
where can u find an iat sensor?? like how much is it??
ok guys im looking to educate myself and my friend who may be interested in my help piecing together a supercharger kit like this for his 97 gt. i understand how pretty much everything here works, cept im not very knowledgeable on the kind of engine management that is used commonly with a kit like this. could you go with a flash programmer? or would you have to go standalone? or is piggy back like a greddy emanage an option? does the factory ecu account for the extra airflow, or does the car actually have to be tuned with a wideband 02 sensor and all? i would be doing the tuning for him on the street. i have a laptop so no problem there. ill just have him get a wb02 and work off of that. i just need to know what solution would allow this type of tuning for the 97 gt 2v motor and ecu?
the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
where can u find an iat sensor?? like how much is it??
^^ still wondering
part number dy-754 f6sz-12a697-a probably around $20...
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03 GT 5spd Hellion 62mm w/Flowmaster cat back, Forged shortblock, UPR kmember with MMR A arms and MMR coilovers, svt focus pump w/BAP, SCT BA3000 coming: ported heads, turbo cams, aeromotive fuel system
If I used a 5.4 short block(using everything else off my 4.6) would all the mounting stuff from this write-up still work?
I am not sure. You should find out if the timing covers are the same. I believe they are but im not sure. If the timing covers are the same then yes it will work. It just needs to bolt up to the timing cover and everything else will fit.
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03 GT 5spd Hellion 62mm w/Flowmaster cat back, Forged shortblock, UPR kmember with MMR A arms and MMR coilovers, svt focus pump w/BAP, SCT BA3000 coming: ported heads, turbo cams, aeromotive fuel system
ok guys im looking to educate myself and my friend who may be interested in my help piecing together a supercharger kit like this for his 97 gt. i understand how pretty much everything here works, cept im not very knowledgeable on the kind of engine management that is used commonly with a kit like this. could you go with a flash programmer? or would you have to go standalone? or is piggy back like a greddy emanage an option? does the factory ecu account for the extra airflow, or does the car actually have to be tuned with a wideband 02 sensor and all? i would be doing the tuning for him on the street. i have a laptop so no problem there. ill just have him get a wb02 and work off of that. i just need to know what solution would allow this type of tuning for the 97 gt 2v motor and ecu?
thanks
The 97 GT kit is setup to be used with a Fuel Management Unit. That is whats used to add fuel, but it still needs to be tuned so you can adjust spark and make sure the a/f ratios are safe. Yes it needs to be run on a dyno with a wideband. Do you have alot of experience with tuning cars? If you are planning on doing the tuning for him, you should have years of experience before attempting to do so. Anything less could easily cost him a new engine. It is very difficult and you wont be able to do it unless you know exactly what your doing and have the correct tuning software that works with your tuning device. Most tuners use either SCT or Diablosport software. You can buy a chip or a handheld tuner. So basically it needs to go to a reputable tuner and put on the dyno...Anything else will not be safe and will not make good power.
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03 GT 5spd Hellion 62mm w/Flowmaster cat back, Forged shortblock, UPR kmember with MMR A arms and MMR coilovers, svt focus pump w/BAP, SCT BA3000 coming: ported heads, turbo cams, aeromotive fuel system
the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
where can u find an iat sensor?? like how much is it??
^^ still wondering
part number dy-754 f6sz-12a697-a probably around $20...
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