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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 7/1/2007 6:58:02 PM   
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How can i be sure when buying a head unit if its still good or not? and how much does it cost to get one to be rebuilt? Also does it matter what kinda head unit you use?

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 7/1/2007 7:38:38 PM   
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How can i be sure when buying a head unit if its still good or not? and how much does it cost to get one to be rebuilt? Also does it matter what kinda head unit you use?


If you are buying one off the internet, the only thing you can really do is check the serial number. Ask the seller what the serial number is, then call vortech and ask them for the history of that number. They will tell you exactly when the unit was manufactured, when it was sold, and if it has been in their shop for service or not. Anytime you send the unit in they will do a "minor service" on the unit. That consists of changing all seals and bearings. The cost is about $350 for the service from vortech. Its really way overpriced because you can get the same seals and bearings from parts stores for under $75. They will tell you that their seals and bearing are "only avaliable through vortech" BUT, if you take the unit apart all the seals and bearings have part numbers on them. You then take those numbers to the parts store nearest you, and have them cross-reference those numbers to another brand. I had my input shaft seal changed because a strand of belt stripped off and wrapped around the input shaft destroying that seal. It was a $5 seal at autozone and was actually better quality than the original one. Seals are super easy to change, you just pull them out and press the new ones into place. Bearings arent hard either. If a shop is willing, it would only cost about $100 to have the seals and bearings changed out. Vortech just doesnt want to give out the part numbers because they would lose alot of money on "minor services" if they did.

As long as the blower spins freely and doesnt have any shaft play, its probably in excellent shape. Inside the blower case their are only 2 gears that will not go bad unless the unit doesnt get any oil. Also make sure the impeller is not bent.

Any unit will work as long as it is an S-trim (v1 or v2) and the v1 T-trim will work also. For 96-04 cars, you need a counterclockwise rotation head unit with straight discharge. Looks like this.........http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vortech-Supercharger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ133202QQihZ011QQitemZ320131392440QQrdZ1

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 7/1/2007 8:46:57 PM   
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Thanks thats good to know, ill have to keep my eye out for any good deals... if you see any let me know. Thanks, Joey

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 7/2/2007 7:10:32 PM   
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What would be the ideal sized injectors and fuel pump to use for 2000 gt.  And what brand injectors and fuel pump would you recomend.  Thanks

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 7/2/2007 7:35:23 PM   
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What would be the ideal sized injectors and fuel pump to use for 2000 gt.  And what brand injectors and fuel pump would you recomend.  Thanks


Ford Racing 42# injectors and SVT Focus fuel pump. The focus fuel pump is 255lph. If your planning on going really big with power then you may need to upgrade to an 03 cobra fuel tank and pumps. That would only be needed well over 400whp though.


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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/13/2007 6:59:39 PM   
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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/13/2007 9:59:32 PM   
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why not just make this a sticky??
this is my favorite thread on this whole site
actually makes a blower on a college budget seem likely

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/14/2007 8:35:18 AM   
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i was getting around to it.  i was searching for it and bumped it up so i can just sticky it from the front page

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/15/2007 3:39:11 PM   
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Frostbitten, don't you need a By-pass valve assembly?Also I am doing a PI swap what mounting bracket would i need for my 96 GT 

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/15/2007 5:24:36 PM   
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Well Frostbitten you have become MF's new favorite member! lol! Great post BTW, I am too in college and this would be great if I was gonna go the supercharge route

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/15/2007 11:51:23 PM   
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I don't want to sound like an a$$ or anything but this is almost to good to be true.  With the parts you have listed + supercharger head, an SVT Focus fuel pump, 42# injectors and a Lightning 90 MM MAF this will bolt right up to say an 02 GT?  If that is true you are my hero and I am going to forage for these parts while the car is sleeping this winter and install it 1st thing in the spring. 

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/16/2007 6:46:23 PM   
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yea it can be done.. however this all contingent upon you finding a blower in decent shape in that price range - I see used s trims go for 1000-1500 for just the head unit that arnt tore up, and many of the ebay kits had that problem he listed - no oil - and the gears are trashed, so it could be a 500-600 rebuild, so figuring those prices, it could cost you 2k-2500 for this setup w/o the cooler, and there is also the possiblity of trash in the unit (metal shavings) that could cause alot of problems (mostly for the blower unit) and possibly the engine. The biggest problem with this idea is the used unit, most used units are coming off of blown up motors - they have shavings in the units - they still function for a little while, untill the bearings burn up - this is after you have installed and tuned this thing on your car - so you loose 500 or more in tuning and installation - only to have to do it again once you get the blower rebuilt - and of course the risk of some damage to your motor. This call be avoided howver if you buy  a used unit and send it straight to vortech (dont install it right away) - this is the best advice and will most likely save you alot of trouble and money

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/17/2007 7:26:03 AM   
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this is my math
727 - brackets, bolts etc...
600 - supercharger
100 - fuel pump
400 -46lbs injectors and 90mm MAF
500 - sct and two hours of dyno tunes
2327 total

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/17/2007 7:28:08 AM   
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the mounting bracket kit only costs $299 direct from vortech, not $727.  i should know.

on a side note.  if anybody is in the northern VA area, or wants to drive out here, my S trim is for sale.  it's getting ripped off this week and getting upgraded to a T trim.


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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/17/2007 10:24:38 AM   
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i ment it was all the hardware for $727

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the mounting bracket kit only costs $299 direct from vortech, not $727.  i should know.

on a side note.  if anybody is in the northern VA area, or wants to drive out here, my S trim is for sale.  it's getting ripped off this week and getting upgraded to a T trim.


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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 9/21/2007 10:00:05 PM   
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If someone doing this plans to intercool right off the bat, meaning installing a cooler same time as the charger would they need the discharge tube kit?  I would think the only thing you still need in it is the BPV and then you can get the Bosch or an aftermarket one.  Save your self that initial 189$ and put it towards the cooler piping.

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 10/22/2007 12:10:09 PM   
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thats about all u need but what about the new fuel pump?  and a tune? how much do they cost

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 10/23/2007 3:48:28 PM   
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Will this same setup work on my 97 cobra?

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 11/6/2007 10:30:46 PM   
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Could i use a procharger headunit for this?

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RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done&q... - 11/11/2007 12:17:54 PM   
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i have a question, upon doing this would i for sure have to change exhaust, heads, ect... or anyhting else???

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