After months of loving my v6 (got it in december, and already put $1100 in it) I'm starting to regret getting the v6. If all goes well in september I may trade in my '07 v6 for an '08 GT, Bullitt, or Boss if they are available by then.

I'm sick of everyone hating on the v6, calling it a wanna be, I'm sick of the lack of stock horsepower, I'm sick of the cheap designing ford did w/ the black rockers, wimpy front bumper, and no ground effects, I'm sick of the lack of aftermarket products being offered for the v6, where as the GT has every possible modification you can think of, I'm sick of the sound (the SLP's sound wonderful but at high RPM's the tone of the engine overcomes the exhaust and doesn't sound muscular).

I still love my V6, but find myself wishing it was a GT.

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

After months of loving my v6 (got it in december, and already put $1100 in it) I'm starting to regret getting the v6. If all goes well in september I may trade in my '07 v6 for an '08 GT, Bullitt, or Boss if they are available by then.

I'm sick of everyone hating on the v6, calling it a wanna be, I'm sick of the lack of stock horsepower, I'm sick of the cheap designing ford did w/ the black rockers, wimpy front bumper, and no ground effects, I'm sick of the lack of aftermarket products being offered for the v6, where as the GT has every possible modification you can think of, I'm sick of the sound (the SLP's sound wonderful but at high RPM's the tone of the engine overcomes the exhaust and doesn't sound muscular).

I still love my V6, but find myself wishing it was a GT.


If you feel that way, then you need to get yourself a GT. Personally, your arguments against the V6 don't work for me:
The hate on V6's is just the way life works sometimes. I figure if they wanna diss my car, then they can make my car payments. I didn't buy my car to impress anybody other than myself. And I get FAR more positive comments than negative ones.
The stock 4.0L isn't a slouch, and a modded N/A motor is fun and relatively fast. Get a power adder (not necessarily a turbo/supercharger - even a 50 or 75 shot) and you're talking serious fun!
Rockers and bumpers are easy to change. We have a great advantage over many other car makes because we can buy take-off parts if we want to. Other cars cannot do that. I prefer the body lines on the V6 over the GT - our cars look less heavy IMO.
MANY of the GT aftermarket parts will work on our V6's, so we benefit through our family association to the GT. More 4.0L-specific parts are becoming available too.
Although our 4.0L's will NEVER have the rumble of a V8, our cars actually have a unique sound with the right exhaust. I tend to describe our sound as having a European flair - certainly not a fart can.
Again, your reasons are your own. Depreciation on our V6 is kinda high, so don't expect a big dollar figure on your trade. You may want to sell it outright. Best of luck, regardless of your choice...

Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

did you test drive a GT before you purchased your V6?

Dont we have that "European flare" because it is a german designed engine?
or am i completely wrong there?

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

After months of loving my v6 (got it in december, and already put $1100 in it) I'm starting to regret getting the v6. If all goes well in september I may trade in my '07 v6 for an '08 GT, Bullitt, or Boss if they are available by then.

I'm sick of everyone hating on the v6, calling it a wanna be, I'm sick of the lack of stock horsepower, I'm sick of the cheap designing ford did w/ the black rockers, wimpy front bumper, and no ground effects, I'm sick of the lack of aftermarket products being offered for the v6, where as the GT has every possible modification you can think of, I'm sick of the sound (the SLP's sound wonderful but at high RPM's the tone of the engine overcomes the exhaust and doesn't sound muscular).

I still love my V6, but find myself wishing it was a GT.


You love it why does what others say about it bother you, unless you have thin skin,
Good luck gettting a boss or bullit in 08 and if you have that money why didn't you get a GT to start with?
People will hate on any car you have there is always haters, no matter what if you can stand it, then that is on you.
Sure the front could use some work but what does the GT have as far as ground effects? The rockers are painted and the rear is able to accept duals...No biggie $250 your there.
WTF aftermarket products not available....did you bump your head? There everywhere!!!!
Look its a V6 and it will never sound like a 4.6 nor will a 4.6 sound like a 5.4 or a 427 or a 302 for that matter, if its the sound you like I'm sure you'll be happier with and extra $4grand to fufill that wish and buy a GT....Good luck in your GT hunting.

99.9% of the responses here are from tungsten cars too...lol

All the power to ya.

Hell, If I could afford one I would do it.

I don't need any reasons to rationalize wanting a GT other than the fact that I want one.
At any rate, I love my 6. Doesn't matter what size the engine is - ITS STILL A MUSTANG!!!

Don't forget how awesome your car is.

If I could afford it, I would buya GT too. But I don't regret buying my V6. I finally came to the conclusion that I won't be trading my V6 for a GT. In the future, when the 6er is paid off...I will purchase a GT next. Both are great cars I think...and if you really love your V6, you won't want to let it go. It's staying with me forever :D

Plus, even if you do have a GT...you're still gonna get haters saying "Well, it's no SS Camaro" or "It's no Z06" or even "It's no Ferrari". No matter what we have, someone is always gonna hate and say there is something better. But if you love the car, then why does it matter. I think most people here who have their GTs and V6s is because they love the car and don't think anything else is better. I know moneyand affordability is also a factor...but I know that your feelings have a part to do with it too.

Good luck on your hunt!

When I bought the V6, I could have bought a V8 (sounds like a commercial....wow, could have had a V8) anyway, I purchased two vehicles in one day.....2007 Mustang V6 Pony Package and a E-350 15 foot Van/Truck. The amount of money I spent that day I could have bought a Saleen. In fact my husband said to me, "I'm proud of you.....you didn't want the V8."
I knew I could have afforded it, but I knew I would be purchasing a car for my daughter.
The V6 has enough spunk for me. I owned an '82 Mustang GT with a 5.0 engine and I can tell you our V6 has more horsepower. If my '82 GT was good for over 20 years, this V6 will suit me just fine.
I could care less what others say or think......they don't have to drive it. ;)

you guys are %100 correct. Hey tough love right, we all need it every now and then.

to answer some questions and then tell my decision.... here it is.

1) I did not test drive the GT but drove in one.
2)I was in the process of buying the GT but when the dealer sold the last one of the color, options, and right price (keep in mind AFTER I told him I wanted that one) I was pissed off, this was also after they put all the paperwork through for my insurance and ran a credit check. So after since no auto GT's were left I looked at the V6's and liked one of them alot, and bought it.
3) In my line of work you cannot be thin skinned. but after family members start breaking your balls about it being a six banger, you want to hang yourself.


now heres my decision.

keeping the V6 and putting on.

-Longtube headers (maybe that will help the sound)
-GT front bumper w/ CDC Classic chin spoiler
-GT rocker panels
-GT500 rear bumper
-Vortech S/C (in septemeber)

as far as aftermarket products, alot of the performance parts for GT's do not come for the V6 models.

ORIGINAL: TheBlackPearl

All the power to ya.

Hell, If I could afford one I would do it.

I don't need any reasons to rationalize wanting a GT other than the fact that I want one.
At any rate, I love my 6. Doesn't matter what size the engine is - ITS STILL A MUSTANG!!!

Don't forget how awesome your car is.



yeah i feel the same way, if i could have afforded one then i would have gotten a GT instead of a v6, i still love my mustang to death though

longtubes wont help the sound.....itll only get raspier up top....

honestly dude, if u can swing it financially, go for the gt. i dont remember signing a contract saying i can never upgrade to a gt lol, so i dont really agree with people giving u flack for wanting more.

i thought LT's gave it a deeper sound?

I would hate to see the mustang go to be honest.

i was looking at v6's because all the gt's were on backorder. but when i to to a dealership to look at a v6 they had. i saw a gt that had just been returned with 15 miles on it becuase the person that purchased it couldnt drive manual so they returned it :) i also got a really good deal because it was marked USED. i was so happy i didnt have to get a v6

as far as aftermarket products, alot of the performance parts for GT's do not come for the V6 models.

If you really regret not getting a GT, then I would trade the car in for one.
As far as aftermarket products for the 4.0, the link below is all you need for your pony.

http://www.powerhouse411.com/

After that, you can get a nice array of suspension parts from CHE

http://www.cheperformance.com/

" i was so happy i didnt have to get a v6 "

wow what a dick comment[:@]

everyone will hate on your car no matter what you have and the 4.6L isn't that much of a jump from a 4.0L... now you can just get crap from all of the LS1s, corvettes, etc. I'm very happy with my v6 especially once i get the turbo

Have to agree at first I was thinking I should have waited but not anymore. I am very Happy with my 6. There is only one GT I would trade her in for and that would be a Bullitt

ORIGINAL: Buckman

as far as aftermarket products, alot of the performance parts for GT's do not come for the V6 models.

If you really regret not getting a GT, then I would trade the car in for one.
As far as aftermarket products for the 4.0, the link below is all you need for your pony.

http://www.powerhouse411.com/

After that, you can get a nice array of suspension parts from CHE

http://www.cheperformance.com/




HOLY CRAP the powerhouse site is back!

I hope the mail order turbo kits "comming soon" is faster then their website repairs. [&:]

HOLY CRAP the powerhouse site is back!

I hope the mail order turbo kits "comming soon" is faster then their website repairs.

Yes, the website is back up. It wasn't an issue with them repairing it, more of a domain provider issue that had to be resolved that involved a lot more sites than just PH's
Still, the fastest way to find out about the mail order kit is to call them. 814-774-4966 I am sure Mike can give you the details when you call!

The V6/GT decision is not an easy one. It's not a money contest. I could have picked up a GT for 7000 more when I bought last year, but thenI couldn't have afforded to buy1/2 of an airplane too.

"Afford" has really changed in definition over the years. 20 years ago if someone said they couldn't afford the GT, it meant because they had a small income. Nowadays,credit is a way of life. So it's really about how much money you feel comfortable owing.

ORIGINAL: nonstopred

" i was so happy i didnt have to get a v6 "

wow what a dick comment[:@]


not trying to be a dick.
just saying I prefer the GT
a$$hole

Well, I was at that stage when I bought my first GT(inMarch 2005) and was going to get a windveil V-6(with the 17" Bullitt GT take-off wheels, sort of a pre-pony package:D), but the salesman was a dick and wanted $22K for it(+$2K for the wheels[:@]) so it was $24K before taxes, I figured I could search and search for a GT for a few thousand more, an honest dealer sold me that first GT for $27K(before taxes). If it weren't for a greedy dealer, I might be on this section, although not to say like an arse, I'm pleased that everything worked out the way that it did for me. As long as YOU are truly happy and satisfied, screw everyone else IMO

ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver

As long as YOU are truly happy and satisfied, screw everyone else IMO


+1

Alotta the guys are right on here, when they say it still wont be enough. Ive driven alot of GT's, and they definitely have more power. I was all set on trading mine in once i get the money this summer for a used GT, but then I test drove a corvette for the same price. It was a C5, stick, with corsa exhaust, and it was a f**cking animal, compared to the GT. Yes, I know that there are LOTS of things that make the GT a better car(practicallity, 4 seats, newer car), but none of those really affect me. This summer, I will probably be selling my 6er for a vette, because the V6-GT jump is not big enough for me.

People here assume I have a GT cuz of my front center fogs in my pony pack. I think the v6's look basically the same, so I wouldnt dish out the $$ just for that. However, the GT's are overall just a nicer car, so if you want it, go for it, you'll have one hell of a time, but still be picked on by LS1'ers + anti-ford pricks

You don't happen to have a mustache.. do you? ;)


ORIGINAL: LL88

Alotta the guys are right on here, when they say it still wont be enough. Ive driven alot of GT's, and they definitely have more power. I was all set on trading mine in once i get the money this summer for a used GT, but then I test drove a corvette for the same price. It was a C5, stick, with corsa exhaust, and it was a f**cking animal, compared to the GT. Yes, I know that there are LOTS of things that make the GT a better carÂ*(practicallity, 4 seats, newer car), but none of those really affect me. This summer, I will probably be selling my 6er for a vette, because the V6-GT jump is not big enough for me.

People here assume I have a GT cuz of my front center fogs in my pony pack. I think the v6's look basically the same, so I wouldnt dish out the $$ just for that. However, the GT's are overall just a nicer car, so if you want it, go for it, you'll have one hell of a time, but still be picked on by LS1'ers + anti-ford pricks

ORIGINAL: MrSandman

You don't happen to have a mustache.. do you? ;)


ORIGINAL: LL88

Alotta the guys are right on here, when they say it still wont be enough. Ive driven alot of GT's, and they definitely have more power. I was all set on trading mine in once i get the money this summer for a used GT, but then I test drove a corvette for the same price. It was a C5, stick, with corsa exhaust, and it was a f**cking animal, compared to the GT. Yes, I know that there are LOTS of things that make the GT a better car(practicallity, 4 seats, newer car), but none of those really affect me. This summer, I will probably be selling my 6er for a vette, because the V6-GT jump is not big enough for me.

People here assume I have a GT cuz of my front center fogs in my pony pack. I think the v6's look basically the same, so I wouldnt dish out the $$ just for that. However, the GT's are overall just a nicer car, so if you want it, go for it, you'll have one hell of a time, but still be picked on by LS1'ers + anti-ford pricks



haha unfortunately, no, but im working on that! Great part is, the V6 may get sold to my dad as a daily driver!

ORIGINAL: bobsmilie2000

ORIGINAL: nonstopred

" i was so happy i didnt have to get a v6 "

wow what a dick comment[:@]


not trying to be a dick.
just saying I prefer the GT
a$$hole


It really was a dick comment.....thanks for chiming in thou!

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

3) In my line of work you cannot be thin skinned. but after family members start breaking your balls about it being a six banger, you want to hang yourself.



In the long run you may find that dogs and cats make better friends than people :)

If your in to horse power, the GT is probably the way to go.

For styling and nostalgia, I'll take my Pony Package over the GT any day of the week.

If you're gonna be happier with a GT go buy one. I just hope someone with a Shelby or Saleen doesn't make fun of you "just having a GT" or you'll have to buy one of those too. Personally, I could have bought anything I wanted, saw my V6 Tungsten vert and that's the car I bought. I could care less what someone else thinks. It's MY car.

Sounds like you need to mature a little and stop worrying about what other people say.

ORIGINAL: bobsmilie2000

ORIGINAL: nonstopred

" i was so happy i didnt have to get a v6 "

wow what a dick comment[:@]


not trying to be a dick.
just saying I prefer the GT
a$$hole

then just say, I personally like my GT better than a V6.

sure thats fine, just dont be making it sound like our V6's are the grim reaper.

ORIGINAL: Razorbackfan

If you're gonna be happier with a GT go buy one. I just hope someone with a Shelby or Saleen doesn't make fun of you "just having a GT" or you'll have to buy one of those too. Personally, I could have bought anything I wanted, saw my V6 Tungsten vert and that's the car I bought. I could care less what someone else thinks. It's MY car.

That's funny you mention something like that. From all the V-8 posts I've read, the GT500 and Shelby GT owners are the coolest, no "regular" GT owner(again, from what I've read) feels like they need to defend themselves from those cars, in fact we all drool to hear more about them, I LOVE the GT500 and Shelby GT(but I think it's too expensive in relation to a regular GT). I think V-8 owners and V-6 owners just see things differently(in most cases) JMHO.........

No bobsmilie2000 (http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=38996)didnt get a new V6, he got a used GT that now has
transmission troubles fron the previous owner.
+1 on what a dick...

ORIGINAL: 157db

No bobsmilie2000 (http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=38996)didnt get a new V6, he got a used GT that now has
transmission troubles fron the previous owner.
+1 on what a dick...


dont be mad that you cant earn a reasonable income to buy a better car.

I'm very happy with the 4.0L six banger. Get what you want, make it yours and tell people to piss off who don't like it.

If you have such a reasonable income... why didn't you buy a Porsche or a Ferrari. No offense but some of us here bought a V6 NOTbecause we couldn't afford a V8. It is called a preference.


ORIGINAL: bobsmilie2000

ORIGINAL: 157db

No bobsmilie2000 (http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=38996)didnt get a new V6, he got a used GT that now has
transmission troubles fron the previous owner.
+1 on what a dick...


dont be mad that you cant earn a reasonable income to buy a better car.

I thought about it for awhile. trading it in for a GT, that is. But really, you are going to get S C R E W E D trading that in. When I was at Ford seeing what I could get for my 07 black on black leather pny pkg with 4k miles loaded, they would give me 16k. Why? Because they said thats what they could get my car at an auction for. I told em to piss off. The GT didnt really impress me anyway.

Instead, take the 4-6k youd lose on the trade in alone (Let alone the amount youd have to pay for the GT and insurance, gas etc) and Make the 6 your own. Turbo + supercharged comes to mind. Anyone can make a v8 fast, but a sleeper 6 is simply much more fun of a car then a GT imo.

Bottom line, youd basically be paying 8-10k for 90hp if you trade in. Hardly a smart choice.

ORIGINAL: bobsmilie2000

dont be mad that you cant earn a reasonable income to buy a better car.


wow youre real cool man.... you must have an amazing income to afford yourused GT mustang... more than half of the V6's on here are modded if not highly modded so almost every single one of us could have bought the same if not nicer car than you but we bought what we felt was the car for us

My grandfather told me to live by this statement..."Never let em' see you sweat" so when someone gives me crap bout my 6banger i tell em to shove it. don't let other peoples influence yours. Love what you drive and if you don't get something that you do. Everyone has their reasons on why they drive the car they drive. For me the v6 is everything and more than i expected...i love it

Guys, dont knock the GT. No offense, but it is 100% a better car, new to new, thats why the MSRP is so much more. Yes, I understand that people want lower insurance, and better gas mileage in a V6, which is extremely reasonable. However, you cant say that the v6 is better then a GT.

Last time I checked, I had about $60,000 in investments and $33,000 in the checking account. I could go buy a 2007 GT right now if I wanted to, and I had about $90,000 more when I was car shopping in January.

I bought a 6, cash,because a GT didn't feel that noticeably faster to me. The 6is lighter and has a better weight balance, and a ton of room in the engine bay to install forced-induction goodies, which I'll be doing later in the summer.

If you're really thinking of trading in the PP for a GT, I'd suggest as an alternative just picking up a turbo kit and installing it. You'll be putting down far more power than stock or lightly-modified GTs, and for a fraction of the price -- while still paying less for insurance, and all GT aftermarket body parts bolt right on with no modification to speak of.

LL88, there are a few cars on here (rygen comes to mind) who could say that THEIR car is better than a GT all the way around. you should talk to him about the numbers he's throwing down. quite impressive. i think both vehicles have their perks....for example, the v6 is a little more nimble because of the decreased weight on the front end. nobody is trying to claim the v6 is better than the gt period. they're just saying that each car has benefits and that we are not inferior to people who decided on the gt.

ORIGINAL: LL88

Guys, dont knock the GT. No offense, but it is 100% a better car, new to new, thats why the MSRP is so much more. Yes, I understand that people want lower insurance, and better gas mileage in a V6, which is extremely reasonable. However, you cant say that the v6 is better then a GT.


Not saying that the V6 is better, it isn't but it is lighter, handles just as good or better in some instances, cheaper, less for insurance. It has its draw backs and is slower due to the missing 2 pistons and 90 less HP but there is no way the GT is 100% better car, that is a ridiclous statement.

Let's also not forget that with a decent tune, a CAI, and a GT-take-off muffler, people seem to be dynoing in the ~200whp range -- factoring in 15% driveline loss, that gives us around 235 crank horsepower compared to a stock GT's 300.

65 horses is nothing to sneeze at, but it's certainly closer than 90. But seriously, just grab a Powerhouse turbo kit. It'll cost far, far less than trading up to a GT, make more power, and give any guy in the next lane a hell of a surprise when that 6-bangerblows their doors off!

And also, "That a GT?" "Nope, turbo 6" is definitely a lot more fun to answer people with.

That totally sounds like your hating on your own kind lol. Sure they did go a bit cheap on the design but they pretty much have to so they can keep the price down. If they made all of them with the same things they would be closer to the price of a GT and the only thing different would be the engine.

We should just challenge 'em all to a big race somewhere. :D

I've driven both cars, stock and with various configurations. The GT is a strong performer, I remember test driving it. As long as its a stang, thats all that matters. What gets me is statements like "I'm tired of getting crap for my six" or "the peer pressure at school is too much, I have to trade in for a V8". That second one, happened here awhile back, set a lot of people off. So no, everyone loves these cars and if you notice, congrats are always in order when someone gets a stang (regardless fo what it is).

Its the follow up comments that turn a one page thread into many pages like the examples above.

well you can trade your V6 in September for a GT, but then what happens in a few years when the bigger engine GT comes out? will you trade your GT for that GT? not to mention the Camaro will be out soon and they will have a bigger engine than the GT supposedly. there will always be a bigger fish. this reminds me of hearing the story about the Ferrari F430 owners giving the Ferrari 360 owners a hard time.:eek:

I heard that Dave at Expolrer Express has a good used GT for sale; he recently bought a V6 and put one of his X-Chargers in it and now doesn't want to drive the GT any more. Why? Because the V6 is faster, more nimble, more responsive, and more fun to drive.

ORIGINAL: Mercury83

LL88, there are a few cars on here (rygen comes to mind) who could say that THEIR car is better than a GT all the way around. you should talk to him about the numbers he's throwing down. quite impressive. i think both vehicles have their perks....for example, the v6 is a little more nimble because of the decreased weight on the front end. nobody is trying to claim the v6 is better than the gt period. they're just saying that each car has benefits and that we are not inferior to people who decided on the gt.


I agree, Rygens car is kickass. But, I'm talking stock to stock, thats why i said "new to new". Obviously, with money, you can make the V6 faster then a GT, though much less reliable. Speed is not the only thing that determines whether a car is good or not. Lets go through the list:
A GT has:
-limited slip differential standard
-90 more horsepower
-Better handling/suspension
-TCS/ABS standard
-17" bullit wheels standard
-Better transmission that doesn't whine when you drive
-Front fogs standard


There is a reason why Ford madea mustang, and a 7,000 dollar more Mustang GT. I agree while his logic is not the best for why to trade in for an 8, if he is a real mustang enthusiast, who gives a rats ass? Maybe he loves the car so much that he wants to get the upgraded version. There both mustangs arent they? Its not like hes trading it in for a camaro...

All good points, as long as its a stang thats what matters.

For the hard core racer, all stock transmission options suck on our cars. Its unfortunate, but true.

ORIGINAL: beaustang

I heard that Dave at Expolrer Express has a good used GT for sale; he recently bought a V6 and put one of his X-Chargers in it and now doesn't want to drive the GT any more. Why? Because the V6 is faster, more nimble, more responsive, and more fun to drive.


As far as the "just supercharge it" debate. I respect your position. I haven't driven a supercharged Mustang, but I have had experienced with a modified 1971, 400 rwhp Corvette I used to own. I think it only weighed 3,100 lbs.

I got rid of it for a few reasons.

- I didn't do the modifications and whenever something broke I had to do a lot of research to fix it. The thing was nickle and diming me to death. If you're going to keep a vehicle for a long haul, then it's nice to be able to use stock parts. It was my experience that relability decreases with all of these modifications.

- It was wonderfully fast, but drivability was pretty lousy. It in the city was particularly harsh. It was very hard to drive at slow speed, push the accelerator just a little and you'd almost run into the car in front of you...that's fun for the weekend, but day-to-day it gets old.

- Resale value and insurance value is questionable once you go that far. You have to work to find someone that wants to buy a car that's been heavily modified like that. If you wreck it, then the insurance company is not going to replace all of those expensive goodies you had. You'll probably get bluebook for your V6 and those depreciate quickly.

- The last is subjective. It seems to me that build quality on the V8 is generally better than the V6 at least in past years.

There are pros and cons to modifying a car. Anyone can make any vehicle faster than your car in a straight line. Its just a question of money. That's the easy part. The hard part is maintaining drivability.

personally I think it's a good choice to want a more powerful car but IMO the 05-07 GTs are pieces of crap. They are nose heavy and just...well....heavy. Get an 03 cobra. i had an 07 black/black GT with all the packages, everything...got rid of it fora cobra then bought a second cobra because I liked it so much....dont waste ur money on the new GTs!!!

i too wanted the GT when i got my 6er but found a sixer with features and color that i wanted and was impressed how well the 4.0 pulled. so i ended up getting my 6er with some extra cash in my pockets. this is how i figure it: i too still want a V8 but if i am going to upgrade, why not take it a step futher and aim for the shelby cobra. so that is my future goal at this point. i'll keep modding my 6er and continue to enjoy it to the fullest until my financial situation allows me to take the leap. i seen a shelby cobra on the freeway a week ago and i started drooling. those things look sooo baddass on the road! can't wait!.......oh yeah, my 6er is still pulling chicks and collecting smiles so i guess i can patient on the shelby....hehe[8D]

its hard to find nice cobra's out there these days w/ low miles and a good previous owner
you are a lucky one!

I test drove a GT a little while ago to feel the difference. I wanted to know what I was missing.
These were my observations:

The low end was actually useful. I feel as though I have to wait for my 6 to kick in. GT pulls right away, while 6 has this moment where your like "hello? you there? Oh, THERE we go"
Even after a tune I still feel like that.

I love the LSD. I feel like I'm missing something without it.

Sound. Hands down my favorite part. I like when my little coupe sounds like a truck. I crave that sound. I know I'll never get it with my 6 though.

Most likely, when moneys better, things are more secure and I can afford it comfortably, I'll pass down the six to my lady and get myself a GT (maybe by then they'll have more power too :P )

I think its always natural to want to upgrade to the next best thing. Its human nature. You buy a house, and a couple years later you want a better house. You meet a girl, then you see hotter one and now you'd rather have her. It will always be that way. The truth is, $7500 more for a GT is very affordable over a 3 or 5 year loan. You just have to remember that vehicles are the worst investments that you can make as far as money goes. I love absolutely everything about the V6, and since I'm not a race car driver, I don't see the need for extra power (and extra gas!). I still get the "thumbs up" from all the guys and smiles and waves from the girlies. You gotta love any mustang!

also i wouldnt refer to the GT's as the "dark side" although there are some GT OWNERS that are the greatest of people, the machine is still good.
i wouldnt call a fellow mustang the dark side

i mean the first cobra i got had 970 miles bone stock...still is stock but i put on about 100 miles on it....the other one is somewhat modded with only 5500miles and is in great shape

I was only calling it the dark side as a joke, if I am thinking about buying one I wouldnt down talk it.


very good points brought up in this section. I am a HUGE mustang fan, Iwould never own anything else.

heres theanswersto some questions from the other pages

- I dont care about the bigger engine as long as its a V8, you dont hear guys complaining that they only have a 4.6L instead of a 5.4L, and would NEVER buy a camaro, or challenger, or charger.
- at the time I bought the V6 it wasnt because I couldnt afford the GT, I was in the process of buying a GT butthe dealer screwed me, and I saw a V6 Iliked and bought it.
-Everyone has reasons on why they want to upgrade, Im not saying the V6 is crap, Im just saying the GT is an upgrade.

I'll find out how things are looking in 2 weeks or so, if everything turns out on the up and up, I'll probably trade the 6 in for the GT, IF I do it I'll get the GT in grabber orange, or black w/ red interior. I may trade it in in july or august if I dont change details and keep my OT, my squad is changing anddepending on the chart change I may not keep the OT and wouldnt feel comfortable buying the GT until my new raise.

If you trade in an 07 anything on another 07 your crazy! Bend over and "thank you sir can I have another?" you're going to take a hugh loss and add a bunch to your loan. But if that's what makes you happy, God bless!ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

I was only calling it the dark side as a joke, if I am thinking about buying one I wouldnt down talk it.


very good points brought up in this section. I am a HUGE mustang fan, Iwould never own anything else.

heres theanswersto some questions from the other pages

- I dont care about the bigger engine as long as its a V8, you dont hear guys complaining that they only have a 4.6L instead of a 5.4L, and would NEVER buy a camaro, or challenger, or charger.
- at the time I bought the V6 it wasnt because I couldnt afford the GT, I was in the process of buying a GT butthe dealer screwed me, and I saw a V6 Iliked and bought it.
-Everyone has reasons on why they want to upgrade, Im not saying the V6 is crap, Im just saying the GT is an upgrade.

I'll find out how things are looking in 2 weeks or so, if everything turns out on the up and up, I'll probably trade the 6 in for the GT, IF I do it I'll get the GT in grabber orange, or black w/ red interior. I may trade it in in july or august if I dont change details and keep my OT, my squad is changing anddepending on the chart change I may not keep the OT and wouldnt feel comfortable buying the GT until my new raise.

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

I was only calling it the dark side as a joke, if I am thinking about buying one I wouldnt down talk it.


very good points brought up in this section. I am a HUGE mustang fan, Iwould never own anything else.

heres theanswersto some questions from the other pages

- I dont care about the bigger engine as long as its a V8, you dont hear guys complaining that they only have a 4.6L instead of a 5.4L, and would NEVER buy a camaro, or challenger, or charger.
- at the time I bought the V6 it wasnt because I couldnt afford the GT, I was in the process of buying a GT butthe dealer screwed me, and I saw a V6 Iliked and bought it.
-Everyone has reasons on why they want to upgrade, Im not saying the V6 is crap, Im just saying the GT is an upgrade.

I'll find out how things are looking in 2 weeks or so, if everything turns out on the up and up, I'll probably trade the 6 in for the GT, IF I do it I'll get the GT in grabber orange, or black w/ red interior. I may trade it in in july or august if I dont change details and keep my OT, my squad is changing anddepending on the chart change I may not keep the OT and wouldnt feel comfortable buying the GT until my new raise.

Never, ever rely on OT to make a lifestyle change, especially if the OT will make-up the ability to afford something you can't afford on straight salary. Just wait until you can afford it straight up, don't mortgage your future for a car.............

Beaustang, is that the interior color standard or did you put it in? That is a beautiful color!!

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

I was only calling it the dark side as a joke, if I am thinking about buying one I wouldnt down talk it.


very good points brought up in this section. I am a HUGE mustang fan, Iwould never own anything else.

heres theanswersto some questions from the other pages


I still say just pick up a Powerhouse turbo kit :) way more power than even abolt-onGT, way way WAY cheaper.

Im not going to rely on the OT thats why Im waiting two weeks, because if my chart stays the same, I keept the same amount of mandatory OT, then my raise would make it even easier.

thisis onlymy second car, how much do you think I'd get screwed?

dumb question I bet!

hey,i have a gt but love all mustangs.i know what its like to have ot then have it taken away.happened last year and i'm still recupering.all of a sudden they took my ot and i went from 55 hrs a week to 40.if it wasn't for me being married with no kids,i probably would've lost it.my point is,don't rely on ot for anything because you could lose it or emergencys happen which also happened to me last year,i had 6 emergencys in one year.

well, right now im making around 60k, and Im 24 y.o. I work nights so I get night differential pay, plus I have alot of mandatory OT cause my command is VERY shorthanded on the 12x8 tours, I have no bills other than insurance, and the car payment.

Is that 60K with OT factored in? If so, that works to about $18-20/hr with what you've said you work per week, I'm around $50K/per year(base pay), but I detail on the side to have extra money(L.A. is very expensive!), so I'm probably makingequal to you(but I control my earnings as I can do 10 details one month-and make $1-2 grand each month, or just do 2-3/month and make $4-5 hundred). I don't see a problem with you affording a GT, but it's good you want to wait to see where you'll be at in a few months.......best of luck:)

get the cobra!! lol jebus for the last time the 03-04 cobra> 05-07 GT

the 05-07 GT is a great car but rides like a sports car that it is most definitely not...IMO...im not saying its not a sports car im just saying that it rides like a much sportier car than it really is

the cobra is nice but with just a sc,a 05 can beat it.if you make 60k like dennis says he can,he can easily afford that.ORIGINAL: Jerseyfury2

get the cobra!! lol jebus for the last time the 03-04 cobra> 05-07 GT

i can definately afford it, I just dont want to get screwed.

that 60k is with OT, without it im at like 45,000 base, plus night diff, uniform allowance, holiday pay, with all those and no OT its like 49kand in sept. I go to around 50k base + the previous allowances.

I may buy the shelby GT:D:D:Dmaybe not.

ORIGINAL: Jerseyfury2

get the cobra!! lol jebus for the last time the 03-04 cobra> 05-07 GT


Styling, Safety, Warranty, Nicer interior. The cobra is an awesome car though, but he may like a new GT better.

ORIGINAL: 07firststang

Beaustang, is that the interior color standard or did you put it in? That is a beautiful color!!


Definitely sharp!!

First saw that combination in a 1967 Dodge Charger.

Remember the Man From U.N.C.L.E.? Solo drove one in a few episodes.

The silver paint was an "Extra Cost" option that was hand-buffed.

I think it looks better on the Mustang!

SOHC

yea the thing is when you buy a kit for a blower with the 05 you get a Hi-po intake and a good pulley...stock on the cobra, if you just put on a smaller pulley and put on an air filter like you get with a Kenne Bell intake for example...you'll be at as much power or more than a KB 05 GT....mine dyno'd with just a pulley and intake at 458rwhp.....

ORIGINAL: LL88

This summer, I will probably be selling my 6er for a vette, because the V6-GT jump is not big enough for me.



Dude thats exactly how I feel. lol I want a vette too in the far future! I just don't think the GT is that big of a deal. There was a guy at the track with a blower a 9psi I beleive he was at like around 450hp I think. Then there was fazm with 12 (3 more)psi with his turbo of course that was making around the same power. Pretty much double the power lol. Are motorscan take some ****.Plus the GTs rods are kinda a bit thin I believe. I heard alot of GTs motorsgive at around 450hp but thats just what I heard. Both cool cars though.

Yep, thats the way it came. Thanks!ORIGINAL: 07firststang

Beaustang, is that the interior color standard or did you put it in? That is a beautiful color!!

You probably paid 22 to 23k for your V6; the dealer won't give you more than 17k so you'll lose 5 to 6k, then the GT will be 26 to 28k, add the 5k you lost and it makes 32 33k for the new car. These numbers are estimates but the bottom line is close; you'll get hit hard. Spend 4k on a blower and you'll be very happy with the results.ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

Im not going to rely on the OT thats why Im waiting two weeks, because if my chart stays the same, I keept the same amount of mandatory OT, then my raise would make it even easier.

thisis onlymy second car, how much do you think I'd get screwed?

dumb question I bet!

I paid 25k for it, and it has 600 miles.

I plan on ripping them a new one for the time I got screwed with the GT, and if they don't give me a good deal on a new one I'm going to rip someones head off!

Wow, I've been involved with Mustangs and a Mustang club for over 20 years and never realized there was such a rift between the V6 and GT owners! My personal experience has always been "apples and oranges, but, hey, it's all good". I'm making a total lifestyle change - moving from NY to CA and sold my restored 86 GT and traded my modded ($4K into it) 02 V6 to get an 07 V6 w/ Pony Package and every option except the ridiculuously expensive navigation system. I was looking at GT - coulda afforded one, but there were other things that made me change my mind:

1. I'll be commuting 100 mi/ day RT
2. A GT with the same level of options as the 6 was a solid $5K more... bigger payment
3. I LOVE the look of the pony package (even with the stupid side stripe) because if you look at 65 & 66's Stangs you'll see that many of them had side stripes very similar to these and, of course, there's the fog lights in the grille.

I got a really fun and beautiful car for not a whole lot of money. Will I eventually get a GT? I don't know, but with additional money one would have cost me in gas and payments, I may get get another 60's Mustang to work on :)and have fun with (had a 65 and a 67). It the GT a better performer than the V6? of course it is, that's what you pay the extra $ for!

I got a little burned (by accident) on another post comparing V6's to GT's. I'ts OK to "compare" if it's for fun and interest, but not to "compete" (unless maybe you have nitrous or a turbo!) cause we really can't compete. I don't mind being a "little brother" to the"big star"... I'm still having a blast! I got what I want and I'm happy. If somebody wants to make the move from a 6 to the GT, then go for it ifif that's going to make you happy... life is too short to wait forever till you can enjoy something(that's why I'm making the big move to CA). No matter what ya drive, there's always those who might put you down. I don't hang around people like that and when I do get into a conversation that kind, they quickly see me walking away. As someone else posted, you could a ferrari and still somebody will find a way to insult you. Don't bother trying to justify your choice of ride cause you'll only give them the satisfaction of "seeing you sweat" as it was said earlier. We should all be happy that after 42 years (and against all corporate economics) we can still buy a Mustang of our choiceand these cars - 6 or 8 - are the best ever for quality, safety and performance (not including things like bosses, Shelbies, etc for performance).

i did a write up on this a while back and almost caused world war 3 lol. try to find it somewhere....its somewhere in the 05-07 section. All in all, i concluded that the v6 is better than the GT

I love to surf the posts from V6 owners. The threads and responses are generally very light hearted and friendly. I also like the reference to the darkside. Posting on the GT side, you better watch what you say or get chewed up and spit out.

My observation is that a stock V6 car is great. It has 210 horse, is stylish and the price is right. Doesn't it outsell the GT 2 to 1?

But if you want (or in this case need) the GT, don't try to turn your car into one, just go get it.

ORIGINAL: 07firststang

Beaustang, is that the interior color standard or did you put it in? That is a beautiful color!!


Sure it looks good, but it drives even better! :D

I think I would vote on blowing it. It sounds like you should have boughten the GT off the bat, but you did not. Like you said it is not a simple 5k decision now, more like a 9k one due to the loss on the trade. I say get a SC run it for 3 or 4 years, re-sell the SC for a 1 k loss and then sell you V6 privatley for probaly not that much less than the dealership is offering you now. In the meantime save up the extra cash that you would be paying for the GT and you will have a hell of a down payment in 2010.

I think that is the smart thing to do, but if you are going to be bothered byitto the pointof hatingyour car then grab the Anal Ese and head to the dealership [:o]

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I could probably save about 1grand a month, and would wait for the fall for the 08's orfor good sales onon 07's.

Idk if you'd get hit too hard with a trade in up to a GT (keep in mind you save sales tax). I have a 06 V6 that msrp'd for 24K, and the local used car dealership offered me 14K for mine.....with 5,000 miles on it. KBB trade in was 17, edmunds trade in 17,700. Needless to say I didnt sell the car

yeah, im still unsure of how things will work out

I really appreciate eeryones input, and hope everyone continues to do so. This thread is truly helping me out, thank you all.

ORIGINAL: Margarita Girl

I love to surf the posts from V6 owners. The threads and responses are generally very light hearted and friendly. I also like the reference to the darkside. Posting on the GT side, you better watch what you say or get chewed up and spit out.

My observation is that a stock V6 car is great. It has 210 horse, is stylish and the price is right. Doesn't it outsell the GT 2 to 1?

But if you want (or in this case need) the GT, don't try to turn your car into one, just go get it.


yes, but a good 50% of those people who like to chew up and spit out still live at home with their parents, so it's all good. :D

But if you want (or in this case need) the GT, don't try to turn your car into one, just go get it.


Good post! This one part of your post caught my eye....


For me...I ddin't get my mustang to be and/or beat GT's. I got my mustang to drive it...then after that, I got my mustang to chew up and spit out the following stock or mildly modified cars:

1. 350Z's
2. BMW 3 Series
3. Boosted/Juiced up Hondas and Acuras and rice for that matter
4. Chevy's
5. ****ing M3's
6. Rice
7. ****ing M5's
8. Rice
9. Close minded idiots at the track (dont run into many of them, but every now and then, the look on someones face when they get moped up by a 6, priceless)
10. Late model GTO's (fugly cars, but fast!)
11. BMW's
12. STI's
13. Evolutions
14. BMW's
15. Any BMW really

Did I mention BMW's? LOL. Though now, I'm startng to pick on heavily modified cars with a lot more displacement than me. At the track, be careful, nothing is what it seems. At Ford World Challenge 10, I saw a 4 cylender mustang run 10's, skating 9's if I remember correctly. It was insane.

And though I took the road less traveled, my car is 100% streetable and very reliable. Quite happy with the work Powerhouse did with it.

ORIGINAL: mdg

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HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I love this thread!

heres an update for you guys.

I found out my chart is staying the same, and will not change unless i want it to. So I went to the bank scrounged some money up and now have $2100 saved for august when I buy the GT, by that time I should have around $5,000 to put down, along with the '07 pony.

question. what gears does the GT come stock with? I read on here some people who buy the GT get the 3.55 gear option, isthat worth it?

Manuals are 3.55, autos are 3.31, though I heard in 07 or 08 that 3.55's become an option and both are 3.31. But that is not verified, just something I heard on the boards.

thanks, why do manuals get better gears?

Marketing reasons are my guess....manual GT owners are more performance oriented I guess. Just taking a stab at it, though we know this is the contrary....this can be how marketing folks think.

ORIGINAL: 07Windveil

"apples and oranges, but, hey, it's all good".


I like that :)

more folks should be worried about what they like, and not 'force' everyone else to agree theres is 'better'...these are all nice cars, v6/v8/stock/modified, whatever...no matter what is is, there will always be something faster...as long as it impresses the owner, thats all that matters. too many folks seem to get some kind of inferiority thing going, gotta talk down to anyone with something they see as 'lesser' than theirs...never hear of a smack talkin vette owner dissing a bugatti veyron...there will always be something out there thats better - but remember better can be ride quality, number of seats, sound, mileage, looks, whatever...oh yeah, and performance too. better is in the eye of the beholder, and these mustangs all look good to me :)

ORIGINAL: Dennis074.0

heres an update for you guys.

I found out my chart is staying the same, and will not change unless i want it to. So I went to the bank scrounged some money up and now have $2100 saved for august when I buy the GT, by that time I should have around $5,000 to put down, along with the '07 pony.

question. what gears does the GT come stock with? I read on here some people who buy the GT get the 3.55 gear option, isthat worth it?


Trading in a 07 for an 07 is crazy but I'm happy for you if it is what you want and you dealer will love you.....he'll give you a good buy and say good bye as you walk ou the door counting your money....

why don't you just purchase a used GT?

Iaint going from new to used, I'm waiting till august or sept. so I may buy the '08 GT.


no offense to anyone who has done that, but its not for me.