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Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 6:46:41 PM   
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What you need:

2 x Alluminum Semi-Flexible Airduct hose 8' in length (they come scrunched, and you won't use all 8 feet, but that's good because when they are scrunched they are far more durable)

At least 30 long zip ties, if not more.

Scissors or wire cutters.

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 6:53:55 PM   
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Step one: loosen front wheel bolts, raise up car, remove wheel.

Step two: Take your duct and stretch evenly throughout to about 4 feet. I forgot to measure, but you can scrunch it back if its too long, or carefully clip it some. TacoBill would have measured, but I'm not him so =P

Step three: run the hose from the center of the caliper to the front of the car, bending as little as possible, but also making sure there are plenty of places to fasten it to. Next connect two zipties leaving them as long as possible and anchor it to these points first (see pic). I used two sets of doubled up (put together) zip ties, and left them a bit loose and then used a small zip tie to tighten the slack up. I did this because i didnt want to crush the hose. Do this at all points and it will be sturdy as can be. When lining the ducting, make sure to keep it hanging under wherever you fasten it, not to the sides. Where the yellow and white tie are in this pic, it is anchored above the piece there. The ducting will not get crushed if you lay it out the way I did, I tested this. Make sure that it ends up so that it blows to the center of the rotor. I'm sorry, but I couldn't get an inside shot. You will know if you did it right because it feels nice and secure, and it's not in anythings way.




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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 6:56:15 PM   
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Step 4: Pull it to the front and stretch more if you need to. Get them to the center. Step 5 is the tricky part.


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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 7:01:16 PM   
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Step 5: I couldn't get a good pic, but what you need to do is get zip ties around the top of the center splitter, make sure they will stay towards the top, and then loop more sip ties of this ring you have created around the top of the center splitter. I pulled the black piece out a bit so that I could thread easily around it. You will need to thread the ties around the black insert. Once you have created the ring around the top, and attached two rings to it you can then use two zip ties together and thread them through the rings you have created that are attached to the center ring. Wrap those ties around the ducts and your ducts will be fastened to the center. You will want to make sure this is nice and tight, and use a second ring around the ducts if necessary. If it isn't tight enough it will come off at high speed. Here's how mine looks, I will try and get a better pic later.



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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 7:04:38 PM   
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finished product and thoughts:

Works well, even at high speed it stays attached. i took it above 125mph many times and they are still exactly in place. the hose says that it will handle 5000ft/m. I dunno if that's cubic feet or not, but assuming your going 60mph that means you are going 1 mile/minute. That means if the air is still, it should be hitting your car at 5280 feet per minute. So I'm inferring, based on this, that they are working at full capacity below 60mph. You can try bigger duct hose, but I wouldn't use more than 3.25 maybe 3.5 inches. You will have to squish it a bit, even at those dimensions.


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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 7:06:09 PM   
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 Be creative, think ahead, don't over tighten to the point where you crush the hoses, and good luck. It will work out fine, and at 8 bucks a duct and 2 bucks for 20 or 30 zip ties at walmart, u cant go wrong. Use black zip ties, or it will stand out in front.

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 7:08:16 PM   
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This is what you need -




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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 8:20:51 PM   
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those would be it. how do they mount? i was trying to avoid putting holes in my car. plus, they do work the way they are. i will definitely investigate them.

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 8:52:23 PM   
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I just realized - did you even cut a hole in the backing plate or is the air just blowing on it?

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 9:20:47 PM   
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Good idea!

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 9:22:29 PM   
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If I read it correct it sounds like he has the ducting pointing at the front of the rotor, not through the backing plate like the FR500C's are setup. By the way, the FR500C carbon fiber backing plates, ducts and inlets run $1129 through FRPP in a set. lol


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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 9:33:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RodeoFlyer

I just realized - did you even cut a hole in the backing plate or is the air just blowing on it?


did u mean the rubbery thing attached to the back of the rotor, or the brake pad backing plate. i thought backing plates were what the brake pad attached to. anyway, mine is to the center of the back of the rotor. how would i get it in the front???

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 10:08:18 PM   
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hahaha thats pretty cool. i would put to vacum tips on the front ahaha so you dont have to spend more money

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 10:17:23 PM   
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I mean the metal plate behind the rotor - did you cut a hole in it so that the air actually gets to the rotor or is it just blowing on the plate?

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 11:24:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lldsandsll

finished product and thoughts:

Works well, even at high speed it stays attached. i took it above 125mph many times and they are still exactly in place. the hose says that it will handle 5000ft/m. I dunno if that's cubic feet or not, but assuming your going 60mph that means you are going 1 mile/minute. That means if the air is still, it should be hitting your car at 5280 feet per minute. So I'm inferring, based on this, that they are working at full capacity below 60mph. You can try bigger duct hose, but I wouldn't use more than 3.25 maybe 3.5 inches. You will have to squish it a bit, even at those dimensions.


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Nice thinking but IMO  "getto"  Wouldn't want people asking if that is dryer duct in the front bottom of my car.

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 11:25:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RodeoFlyer

I mean the metal plate behind the rotor - did you cut a hole in it so that the air actually gets to the rotor or is it just blowing on the plate?


oops, lol, i thought i saw a hole back there. what if i remove it entirely? is that a bad thing?

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 11:43:40 PM   
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ummm - yes, remove it. It's not doing much of anything right now. But I bet the backing plate stays cool LOL

You need to either remove the plate entirely and fabricate a bracket to attach the hose to or use a holesaw to cut a 3" hole in the plate and attach the hose somehow to the plate.

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 11:48:22 PM   
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say good-bye to the plates! odd, and i swear its not just cuz i went thru all this hell and im just saying so, but this job still makes a noticeable difference even w/ the back plates.

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 11:53:35 PM   
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LOL!!!

just think - it's a pound or 2 off the nose. We all love taht right?

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RE: Homemade Airduct Brake Kit - 5/29/2007 11:55:38 PM   
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thats like a million horsepower!!!

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