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351 is out!! Pics of the tear down.. So far.. - 5/17/2007 3:03:55 PM   
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I'm editing this post and title throughout my rebuild.. so if its changed please check it out, I might just need some help..

Well I have pulled everything but the Carb off of my 302 as of last night and will hopefully pull it this weekend to start my rebuild..  I was looking at ordering these Patriot Headers ( http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=H8430+01 )  Let me know what you think..

Pics Will come tonight..  And I will take pics of everything as I pull it apart to get opionions on how the parts look, and if I should replace things or not.. So keep an eye out for this post,, I will probably change the title now and then to keep it fresh..    The wife told me last night to get my mustang to DD capability as soon as I can, so I can sell the POS sunfire DD..  So Im all for that...

I do need to know what brand of paint works best for the engine bay.. Should I just go with Rustoleum or do I need something better,, and the same goes for the engine.  Im going to paint it after its all back together, so will the Kragen High temp engine enamel work in the long run?  Thats what I used on my waterpump and it looks pretty good..   Any opinions?

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/17/2007 3:21:39 PM   
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If you have the means available to you, (a compressor & spray gun) I recomend a catylized enamal or an epoxy automotive paint. It will dry much harder and be more resistant to under hood chemicals and road salt etc.

I know that you have to deal with a lot of road salt in San Diego,,,,

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/17/2007 4:12:53 PM   
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Cool! Look forward to the pictures.
What are the plans for upgrades, or are you going back stock?



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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/17/2007 4:44:35 PM   
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Im not going Stock because the original was a 351, and the PO put in the 302..  Here is what I plan on..

Engine:
New Gaskets throughout the motor
Maybe new rings and Hone job..  not sure till its pulled apart
New main and rod bearings
Check the tolerances in the oil pump
Pertronix
Eventually a new intake, carb, and roller cam/rockers/lifters  (not during this rebuild though)

Exhaust:
Headers
Flowmaster 40 duals w/H pipe 2.5 inch..  all the way back

Suspension
Rear : New rear mid eye springs (grab a track) = 1inch lowered  with gas a-just shocks and new bushings
Front: Shelby drop with new shocks (not during the engine removal)

Wheels:
New Cragar SS 15 x 8 on rear with probably 4.25 bs to tuck the rear wheels and some New BFG Gforce 255 55 15's  to match the front..   I still need new wheels on the front too but that can wait a little while..  I just need to get those ridiculous skateboard wheels off the rear..  They rub way too much..

Seatbelts, so I can strap the car seats in..  My 4yr old is already telling me that I have to paint the car blue,, because he sees a beautiful 69 camaro every day on the way to day care and points it out as "look at that fast car dad!!!"

Check out the current pics at   www.photos.yahoo.com/otaiko7  

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/17/2007 6:49:47 PM   
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If you got it apart, I'd seriously consider doing the cam and rings/hone. Otherwise you'll just be doing it later.

IMO...YMMV etc etc.


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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/17/2007 6:53:17 PM   
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is that color silver jade? im just wondering cuz thats what my 69 is supposed to be, im just trying to get a picture of what it looks like. are you going to paint it the same color?

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/17/2007 7:01:39 PM   
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eee hehe.... bro, i know exactly where you are at right now. when i pulled my engine i said " ill just pull it, clean it, and put it back in... "  needless to say, now i have torn the engine down to nothing but the block. and i am looking to find someone to bore out the cylinders.... new from the pistons up... i just got the crank re ground, but pretty much everything but the major components ( block, heads and intake ) im going to buy new.... so i went from cleaning to a complete rebuiild.....

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/17/2007 7:20:23 PM   
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quote:

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is that color silver jade? im just wondering cuz thats what my 69 is supposed to be, im just trying to get a picture of what it looks like. are you going to paint it the same color?

Here is a silver Jade 69.  I think it is the prettiest of all the greens.

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/18/2007 12:50:43 AM   
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Its forest green,, I think.. The PO painted it probably 15 years ago.. its in need of some new color and a little body work..







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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/18/2007 1:14:26 AM   
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YEah do the cam, check the compression first maybe?

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/18/2007 2:14:15 AM   
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Ill do a compression check just to be sure I dont need new rings...   Sorry for the way I put up the pics.. It was my first time..   I started a photobucked accnt just for mustang forums...

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/18/2007 2:28:47 AM   
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not bad youll be really happy once you get the engine bay cleaned up and painted

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/25/2007 2:08:29 PM   
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Well,, I will pull her out today..   Yesterday I picked up a engine stand , borrowed my friends cherry picker, and bought a lift plate to bolt to the intake..  I pulled the export braces off,, I just need to unbolt the exhaust and lift her out..  Though I do need to get a jack under the tranny still..   I cant wait to get this thing out and cleaned up!!!!!!!  I will post pics tonight after I drink a few and drool over how much I love the way that motor looks ,,  IM EXCITED ABOUT THIS >>>  SOOOO EXCITED!!! 

But I did brake the nipples off of my brake booster and that sucks..

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/25/2007 2:32:00 PM   
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good luck,  i recommend doing the cam and intake now cause it will be easier this way in the longrun.


i also like that green

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/25/2007 2:56:01 PM   
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If you're taking recommendations, for what sounds like a mild to near stock 302 in your ride, I'd stick to eith a 2" or 2-1/4" exhaust system.  If nothing else, it will be cheaper, though by most accounts, it will also give you better performance.

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/25/2007 3:22:07 PM   
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If you like agressive noises, you will love the sound of those Flowmaster 40's!

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/26/2007 2:19:57 AM   
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Yea,, I would put the new cam and intake on now but i just cant afford to...   If I were to get a new 4barrel intake , could I put the 2 barrel carb back on withe the 2 barrel spacer??    I guess it would depend on the intake right?          

and I do like how loud it was with the exhaust ending under the passenger side floor pan /no mufflers, so I dont think the 40's will be too bad.. The kids might though.. 

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/26/2007 2:34:47 AM   
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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/26/2007 2:35:22 AM   
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Yea,, I would put the new cam and intake on now but i just cant afford to...   If I were to get a new 4barrel intake , could I put the 2 barrel carb back on withe the 2 barrel spacer??    I guess it would depend on the intake right?          

and I do like how loud it was with the exhaust ending under the passenger side floor pan /no mufflers, so I dont think the 40's will be too bad.. The kids might though.. 


you can buy a new spacer to make the 2v carb fit on a 4barrel intake.  if you are rebuilding the engine or just cleaning up the internals,  just do the cam, it isnt expensive in relation to something like head work.  intake manifolds too

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RE: Engine is Coming Out - 5/26/2007 2:41:02 AM   
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You've got a point..     Now I would just have to find the cam that wouldnt cost me an arm and a leg and that would work with the stock lifters/pushrods ...    Any suggestions?     I want something mild..   and If I can get the spacer to keep the 2 barrel carb on a 4 barrel intake I would do that and just save for the new carb,, but how gas efficent would that be?   I dont want to kill the milage totally..  

So what cam?
and what intake/spacer?
that would not kill the milage..    For a cheap price,, but not crap..

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