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Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 2:59:46 AM   
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Ok, im stuck in a bit of a rut.
As of late my grades arent too grand and so per my driving privilege deal with my dad if im not getting a 3.0 my priviledges are revoked. So that leaves me with a multitude of options and to every negative theres a few positives depending on how you look at it. I just got a job and will be making a pretty good amount. Now that leaves me with those options.

1. Keep my mustang, keep paying insurance and not driving it for about a month or so. But save up money and put mod after mod on it while im not filling it up etc.
2. Sell my mustang for every cent that its worth and use that money to buy a car with more power.
3. Use the money from selling my mustang+whatever i have saved to buy a Later bodystyle Fox with a 5.0 and mod it with what i have (insurance probably wont raise too much if i got quoted bout the same rate on a late 80s Camaro with a V8 it should be the same im guessing)
4. Use the money to buy a 70s Camaro and mod it with whatever ive got left.

Now gas for sure would cost me more on both of them, but if ive got a steady income it shouldnt be too much of a problem earning a fair wage. The same goes for insurance although i can see it costing MORE for me to get the Camaro.

My big question is what choice do you think would be the best for my situation, financially and rationally. Im just looking for more power and that sweet V8 rumble, i understand this car wont last a life time, but what quality domestic sports/muscle car does lol? and btw id be making ABOUT $700+ (give or take) a month IF and only if i get all the hours i requested and work almost full time on the weekends.

So the reason i ask you (even tho i realize this is rather off topic) is because i trust all you and know all you a lil bit better than those in the off topic section or in the GT section and so on.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 4:25:50 AM   
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Well if it were me I probably would sell her and get a 99+ GT or a 96-98 Cobra.
You can probably get 4-5k easily out of your car and a 96-98 Cobra will cost about $7-8k depending on where you shop. A 99+ GT has come down quite a bit too to right around 8-10k.

Now I said that I would because I already have my projects and more than enough stangs in my corral right now. It may not be wise for you. You need to ask yourself if you can make the extra $2-4k to get one of those cars and how long it will take you.

Shopping around is very imporant, you will get screwed every time you go to a dealership and they try to act like they are doing you a favor because they paid some kid min wage to clean your car and do a lube check. The last time I went in to look at Mach1's the guy tried to justify a 27,000 dollar 60k mile Mach1 that had some crappy american racing rims on it "But Sir, we detailed the car and changed the fluid, that there is worth the extra cost." I told him to get his ass on ebay and check them out for $15-20k. He said he would buy each one that he say on ebay for that price because he cant get them that cheap.

I asked him to let me open up my e-bay on his computer and he refused and proceded to say that those were private high risk sellers that dont have warenties. I then asked him why the car said it was As-Is and he said "Oh we dont give a warenty direct from us, its factory." I pointed out that almost all on ebay had factory warenties. Then I left.

Private sellers are the best place to shop, always and forever

As for the Camaro thing, I wouldnt touch a camaro unless it was a 67-73. My fav being the 70 1/2 RS-SS with the split bumper. Now that is nice!!! ( I miss my Chevelle  ) Now if you had the money I would suggest a 98+ Z28/SS :)

But honestly I cant see myself owning another chevy for a long time. There are two cars I am going to try to go after and thats in, one being stupidly high in price and the other yet to come. Im talking about the Ford GT and the NEW Challenger.

best of luck with your choice.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 7:56:00 AM   
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GET YOUR GRADES UP #1 priority.



Do whatever you want to do man. You always talk of building your sixer into a show car, but at the same time you crave more power, so that ones up to you. I will remind you of  this, it will be very hard to find an old foxbody or camaro in good enough shape to be worth buying, then there's always gonna be the cost of making some type of repair, and your current car is running just fine and you know what it's problems are and aren't.

Now as you know, I took the gamble with my old V6 and bought my 95 5.0, I got real lucky on some things, but I had to pay, and am still paying, out the wazoo just to keep the car in great working order. Now mine isn't stock, so that causes some problems right there, and all of the problems were caused by the dumb previous owner, and that's a risk you're gonna have to take if you go that route. You know what my decision was, so now it's time to make yours.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 8:36:30 AM   
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I say you keep saving, then when you have saved over $5,000, suddenly, you will no longer want to buy a car and will choose to keep saving.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 8:38:01 AM   
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That's not true, when I hit $5000 I bought my 5.0.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 9:00:31 AM   
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Well if I had a dull red v6 I would've bought a new car as well - lol

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 9:01:55 AM   
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Correction, dull, SLOW ASS, red v6.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 11:13:10 AM   
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Ok thanks for you input thus far guys. Also the reason i dont want to get a newer mustang is because Im lookin to keep it cheap and from my understanding theres alot of parts out there for foxbodies and classic stangs, id be fine with either one. Right now i just want a car with more muscle persay and i know my grades are important and they have risen but right now is my saving point, right now im saving my money and, i was just wondering if by the time my grades are back, if it would be a better idea to buy the Camaro or the Fox and just work on them since their more primative and i feel id probably learn more if i could do alot of the work myself, plus ive got three buddies with 70s/80s camaros and they know the engine pretty well so i could team up with them on some ideas. Also i ask because my school is FULL of mustangs, two classics, a 98 cobra, v6, vert, and numberous s197 GTs. So just thought A. getting something out of the norm would be fun, B. getting more power would be fun C. having a car that was more accessible would be the best of all.


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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 1:21:49 PM   
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The S197 has become too insanly popular and compedative pricing has put one in every kids hands that has a willing parent. LOL

Always work on your grades dude, I thought that was a given :)

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 5:40:32 PM   
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well yes, my grades are increasing, but the selling would happen during the no driving period and the modifying and what not, and then id insure it when i get enough saved and THEN id drive it, over the summer and next year. Make it better that it was when i got it and sell it for more before i go to college.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 6:38:05 PM   
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I dont know how old you are but based on what you said I can guess that you are young, and being that you are young, you have the rest of your life to get the car you want. Get those grades up, get a good job and then when you are finacially stable you could purchase that car with more power to please your needs.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 6:38:17 PM   
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Do your parents care if you sell it?
I would personally keep it unless you are that set on getting a faster car.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 8:11:13 PM   
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i say just keep it, mod it as u go.  wait till u get to college and really have some serious bills to pay, then ur gonna wanna shoot ur self if u get a new car that has payments and higher insurance.  if u keep ur six u can mod it as u want when u have the money and plus u have already started a lil

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 9:56:07 PM   
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Guys, the insurance will go down on an older V8, not up, trust me on this, been there, done that.

Full coverage 1998 Ford Mustang 3.8L, full coverage, $1800 every six months
Full coverage 1995 Ford Mustang GT/Cobra, full coverage, $1285 every six months.

I'm 21, so I still don't get that nice age discount.


Josh, like I said, do what you wish, but there are days, and they're counting, when I still wish I had my old V6 for a daily driver, or better yet, a freeking Civic. I swear, I feel like I'm being punished for owning a V8.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 10:06:37 PM   
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okie dokie this is what you do. sell your pretty sixer save up and get a decent 4 eye foxbody . dont buy those 80's camaros with their crap 305's and uglyness.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/9/2007 10:54:00 PM   
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i say just save up and spray ur car with like a nice 75-100 shot. do some more appearence stuff maybe get rims if you dont already have them or an exhaust system i know you were saying something about the "sound"

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/10/2007 1:32:50 AM   
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Ive got no clue what i should do.. I want more power, so i dont have to waste time/money on the six just so im not running 150hp... but gas wont be pretty right now im paying 40 bucks for 11.6 gallons and that lasts me about 250 something miles i think, but i feel working my hours and for my wage, driving two miles to school and back and the couple of miles down the hill to work and back up wont be too hard to substain some gas flowing thru the engine. Then theres  insurance, wont cost too much hopefully, but roughly 700ish a month should net me a good 200/mo insurance (and thats if they want to charge me for the bigger engine/lack of safety features, right now im paying 180 or so for the 300/500 liability or w/e it is) So i figure i find a nice cheap workable muscle car (id be willing to go with almost anything with in reason ie.Camaro, chevelle, nova, maybe a vette that needs alil love, classic mustang etc.) something preferably that i dont have to worry about all this electrical crap, like tuning everything.. just so i can do some small swap. Honestly, i just want that mean V8 sound looks would be my 2nd need and in all honesty speed/power (not much use on 40mph roads) would just be something to toy with. It would be nice from time to time to beable to smoke the tires in front of the school.. show off.. run agaisnt some of the kids who think their hondas and nissan  240whatevers are the **** just kuz they have it dragging on the ground and a "special" japanese muffler and a stripped interior.... etc... but i reeeeaaallly want that sound and i really want to put a nice paint job on it the whole nine yards, so that maybe when i want to sell it it will have more value, maybe more miles, but most of all more value. I could then sell it for maybe  a thousand more than i bought it for and use that money to buy a good college project. Right now the sixer is becoming a pain, i want to get the rear end pullin for me MAYBE some gears if im feeling up to the challenge, but for that id have to go in and mess with some electrical deal and pour money out to some technician who reads a manaul and has more tools than i do... I just dream of waking up on a saturday morning, walking out into the brisque spring air of Sammamish Washington popping the hood open giving the ol' v8 a once over, play with this check that, tinker here, turn it on revv it a few times, drive it down to the local XXX burger joint and sign up for the spring/summer car shows just cruise around. I dont like having to worry about pulling up to some stop light and have a honda who thinks hes the **** with his before mentioned car, pull up next to me and blow my doors off because ive got a mules instead of ponies.. I wouldnt mind so much throwing away money on my sixer if it wasnt so damn difficult. I mean ive got friends around me who own 70s Camaros, 80s camaros etc. and know their way around the engine, ive got one kid who got me hooked on the Camaro with his 75 whos currently adding another 4barrel to his engine... in all honesty all i know is that hes adding another carb with four holes in it... but he made it sound easy so i figure i could learn from him, and from experience, doesnt sound to hard you just find someone who knows and wants to help and go... ok ive typed too much now.. sorry..

Also i refuse to go nitrous... theres no reason for me to have it when i dont think ill be embarrassing myself at the track with my 6er. At most i was hoping to fo F/I but now im reading in magazines and here in the forum that ive got to bust my ass and my wallet with some tuner and finding some mechanic to tune it for me... just doesnt sound to fun in the end... I mean ive got HUGE plans for the 6er, but ive got even bigger dreams of ending my high school years in this rich snobby hell hole leaving giant ass tire marks on the walk way infront of the school.. just to be a douche bag.


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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/10/2007 2:30:49 AM   
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you my friend need a carburetor. plain and simple. if you get a carb motor everything is less complicated and much cheaper to mod.

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/10/2007 2:35:40 AM   
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and your friend is putting dual 4 barrels on his camaro? how many inches is his motor . if its a 350 thats kind of a weird move

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RE: Stuck and need some help from my V6 buds - 5/10/2007 8:02:55 AM   
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you my friend need a carburetor. plain and simple. if you get a carb motor everything is less complicated and much cheaper to mod.


Well if he was really bored, he could covert the V6 over to a carbed engine.

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