doubling gas mileage
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-double-your-gas-mileage
or this, which is using dry ice to get dents out.
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-remove-car-dents-with-dry-ice
Has anyone tried any of these and are they safe?
Would dry ice damage paint?
Would that stuff damage the engine?
TheMichiganRA
05-06-2007, 05:15 AM
I know repair shops that use dry ice to remove dents. They actually use a black light to find them first and, yes, they use dry ice to pop out dents. There's one place that did it to my sisters car after a hail storm.
I wouldn't know about the other thing.
TheMichiganRA
05-06-2007, 05:25 AM
Everything about doubling your mpg seems like it'd work. But I don't know about putting acetone in the tank. That sounds like it'd f^^^ something up. It'd probably burn up your fuel injectors or something. Maybe eat up the rubber stuff in/on the fuel line.
TheMichiganRA
05-06-2007, 05:27 AM
By the way, I think acetone is used in nail polish remover.
FBCBEER
05-06-2007, 05:32 AM
Yeah, it is. Apparently it helps with the ignition of gasoline or something. I would totally try it, but my luck I would f up and need a new engine. If gas hits $4.00 a gallon this summer, Im trying it though.
TheMichiganRA
05-06-2007, 05:40 AM
I hear ya on that one! It's probably something like an octane booster but in pure form, not "watered-down" like the octane booster stuff.
NeoTokyo
05-06-2007, 06:10 AM
I will do the dry ice thing tomorrow. Im glad you showed us that, my wifes poor car has dents all over it from hail :(Never happened in California!!!
As for the fuel additive, I dont think I will be trying that any time soon.
Gas is $2.89 in Springfield Missouri right now.
Some places are at 3.09 right now.
TheMichiganRA
05-06-2007, 06:13 AM
Gas is 3.30 here. It totally blows.
NeoTokyo
05-06-2007, 06:17 AM
It really sucks because just 3 weeks ago it was 2.09 :(
TheMichiganRA
05-06-2007, 06:19 AM
I haven't seen those prices in such a looong time.
raz54
05-06-2007, 11:23 AM
ORIGINAL: TheMichiganRA
Gas is 3.30 here. It totally blows.
Damn you're lucky, it's $3.65 here for reg.
I have a theroy about the acetone. I think it has some thing to do with the oxygenation of the gas, maybe removing it?
cisurfer
05-06-2007, 11:48 AM
when i was on explorerfourms a whole bunch of ppl were doing the acetone thing and it work for them
ZZmustang
05-06-2007, 11:50 AM
There are several types of acetone, Industrial , is used in making large amounts of chemicals, and as a feed stock. Humans make it when they are starving.
As a fuel additive it would probably be ok, but , and that is a Big Butt, what it would do to the seals on the fuel injectors or the fuel pump or the fuel line that is not steel, is a guess. Maybe any car than can run E85 would be safe for acetone, but I wouldn't use it on older vehicles.
acetone, is an oxidizer, meaning it carries it's own oxygen, Like Nitro methane or Nitrous. The chemical formula C3H6O means it will burn very rapidly, the "O" will help.
If your going to try this, don't use to much, What you are really doing is increasing HP and by doing this use less gas peddle and less gas. Your engine still needs the right air/fuel ratio to run,
deezelnut
05-06-2007, 11:53 AM
where i am it is around 1600 won, or $1.75, per liter. and the Koreans drive like maniacs. they don't have gas pedals, it's an On/Off switch.
raz54
05-06-2007, 12:22 PM
ORIGINAL: deezelnut
where i am it is around 1600 won, or $1.75, per liter. and the Koreans drive like maniacs. they don't have gas pedals, it's an On/Off switch.
LOL.
RyansQuick6
05-06-2007, 12:25 PM
Acetone is safe, in the right percentage. It doesn't hurt any of the seals or anything, I mean it's a nail polish remover, but gasoline will strip paint too. It's simply an atomization tool, which as we all know, increased atomization equals incresased performance. The fuel burns better, less is used, engine doesn't work as hard, therefore you end up with increased gas mileage.
The danger is only present when you put in too much. no more than 3oz per 10gal in your tank, but you're supposed to work your way up starting at 1oz per 10 gallons.
Ryan
ZZmustang
05-06-2007, 01:14 PM
RyansQuick6
It doesn't hurt any of the seals or anything?????????// Wow , that’s a heck of a statement?
But then, You might put E85 in a carburetor engine? Each manufacturer put in different seals and the material that the seals are made of react differently with different chemicals. Put a rubber seal in some alcoholic and see. put some gas in a Styrofoam cup.
v6stang07
05-06-2007, 02:12 PM
well i dunno, the seals is what i am really worried about, i just had to replace a fuel pump and it wasnt fun so i would like to keep my fuel system runnin for a while but i would also like to try this out
FBCBEER
05-06-2007, 03:24 PM
Yeah, it seems that if it worked so well, everyone would be using it. Im not sold on it yet. Maybe Ill try later.
Durr727
05-06-2007, 04:08 PM
Hmm. Both cool finds, I might try it, but I want someone else to fcuk up their fuel system first.
Jugador
05-06-2007, 04:30 PM
i make no guarantees about gains in mileage from acetone, however ive got some comments.
1. my brothers suburban which failed the tailpipe emissions test a year before passed this year with flying colors using acetone (wayyyyy better numbers than my mustang). if you've got a car that might not pass smog, try it, you'll be surprised.
2. a gallon has 128 oz. 1-3 oz of acetone per 1280 oz of gas is not going to harm anything.
3. it would be wise to put acetone in before pumping gas so you mix it up well
look into xylene also, some people use it. it's really all trial and error and you'll need to have consistent conditions to be sure that you had gains strictly from the acetone unless the numbers are just that much better.
MustangMike2001
05-06-2007, 06:17 PM
Someone should buy some random seals and fuel lines and let them soak in a gas/actone mix and see if there is any damage over time.
Durr727
05-06-2007, 06:32 PM
Why don't you? :)
v6stang07
05-06-2007, 07:18 PM
well i also volunteer you mikey!!
where car u buy pure acetone at, is it just nail polish remover or is that not straight???
Durr727
05-06-2007, 07:21 PM
Probably eBay.
ZZmustang
05-06-2007, 07:25 PM
Jugador (http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=1575)
I don't know if your old enough to remember when they introduced Gas-O-haul. A mix of, I think 5% alcohol with the gasoline. It really messed up all the carburetors that ran it. The fuel pumps and the rubber fuel lines. This stuff may do nothing to the seals and all the rest of the components of the fuel system, I have no Idea, But to say even a small amount "is not going to harm anything." is just not good advise to give people.
MustangMike2001
05-06-2007, 07:55 PM
I would do it myself but I just don't have any $$ at the moment.
v6stang07
05-06-2007, 08:05 PM
im not gonna order flamable liquids on ebay or any other website, i was lookin for some place i could go to in town
RyansQuick6
05-06-2007, 11:21 PM
ORIGINAL: ZZmustang
Jugador (http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=1575)
I don't know if your old enough to remember when they introduced Gas-O-haul. A mix of, I think 5% alcohol with the gasoline. It really messed up all the carburetors that ran it. The fuel pumps and the rubber fuel lines. This stuff may do nothing to the seals and all the rest of the components of the fuel system, I have no Idea, But to say even a small amount "is not going to harm anything." is just not good advise to give people.
Dude, are you just making up opinions without actually doing any research???? It has all been tested and proven to cause zero problems when used in the appropriate dosages. And how in the hell can you compare styrofoam to anything in an engine???? I'll put it to you this way, nitro-methane, in a 30% methanol mix will not melt a dixie cup, but gasoline will.
AT LEAST USE GOOGLEBEFORE YOU MAKE INCORRECT ASSERTIONS ON A SUBJEST OF WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!
I'm puting it in my tank tomorrow, the worst it will do is NOT give me 50mpg, I have no fear of damage. You probably have more than 2oz of WATER per 10 gallons you get at a gas station anyway, and water is very bad for an engine, but even small doses won't hurt anything. I've run r/c car 33% nitromethane mix and water through my intake to clean my engine and the motor didn't even stumble like it would with seafoam, yet it ran phenomenonally better afterwards.
Ryan
FBCBEER
05-06-2007, 11:48 PM
ORIGINAL: v6stang07
im not gonna order flamable liquids on ebay or any other website, i was lookin for some place i could go to in town
You can buy it from a beauty salon type place. Make sure its 100% though.
flash20
05-07-2007, 12:05 AM
ORIGINAL: RyansQuick6
ORIGINAL: ZZmustang
Jugador (http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=1575)
I don't know if your old enough to remember when they introduced Gas-O-haul. A mix of, I think 5% alcohol with the gasoline. It really messed up all the carburetors that ran it. The fuel pumps and the rubber fuel lines. This stuff may do nothing to the seals and all the rest of the components of the fuel system, I have no Idea, But to say even a small amount "is not going to harm anything." is just not good advise to give people.
Dude, are you just making up opinions without actually doing any research???? It has all been tested and proven to cause zero problems when used in the appropriate dosages. And how in the hell can you compare styrofoam to anything in an engine???? I'll put it to you this way, nitro-methane, in a 30% methanol mix will not melt a dixie cup, but gasoline will.
AT LEAST USE GOOGLEBEFORE YOU MAKE INCORRECT ASSERTIONS ON A SUBJEST OF WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!
I'm puting it in my tank tomorrow, the worst it will do is NOT give me 50mpg, I have no fear of damage. You probably have more than 2oz of WATER per 10 gallons you get at a gas station anyway, and water is very bad for an engine, but even small doses won't hurt anything. I've run r/c car 33% nitromethane mix and water through my intake to clean my engine and the motor didn't even stumble like it would with seafoam, yet it ran phenomenonally better afterwards.
Ryan
let me know how that goes ryan i wanna try but if i mess anything up i odnt have money fix:(
v6stang07
05-07-2007, 12:06 AM
really, ill go up somewhere like that then, im def gonna try it out
Top Gear
05-07-2007, 12:14 AM
ORIGINAL: FBCBEER
doubling gas mileage
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-double-your-gas-mileage
or this, which is using dry ice to get dents out.
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-remove-car-dents-with-dry-ice
Has anyone tried any of these and are they safe?
Would dry ice damage paint?
Would that stuff damage the engine?
Nice finds, I have a dent on my door and it's driving me crazy!! Guess I'll give it a try, where can I find dry ice at any way?
v6stang07
05-07-2007, 12:33 AM
around here in the farm belt, there are lots of pre-coolers for produce semi's and u can get dry ice there, if not try a local college or any science lab, they can make you some dry ice, my highschool science lab makes it all the time
v6stang8
05-07-2007, 12:54 AM
v6stang07 you can pic it up at any sherwin williams and, be very carefuly not to get it on your paint, if you do you will be pissed when you what it does, i'm a paint contractor and we use it to get paint off of **** that its not suppose to be on.
FBCBEER
05-07-2007, 01:32 AM
For any of you guys or girls who are gonna try this, let us know with an update how it works please. Thanks
97tunedmustang
05-07-2007, 01:41 AM
ORIGINAL: v6stang07
around here in the farm belt, there are lots of pre-coolers for produce semi's and u can get dry ice there, if not try a local college or any science lab, they can make you some dry ice, my highschool science lab makes it all the time
meijer carries dry ice. also i'm real skeptical on the acetone thing. if it worked so well without any adverse conditions we'd all be using it dont ya think. remember, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is
MEM 302 5.0L
05-07-2007, 02:04 AM
im doing an experiment overnight tonight...
ill update you on the results tomorrow sometime
i put an injector seal out of a 5.0l mustang in a cup full of nail polish remover
ill see what this does...and ill post the results
97tunedmustang
05-07-2007, 02:13 AM
ORIGINAL: MEM 302 5.0L
im doing an experiment overnight tonight...
ill update you on the results tomorrow sometime
i put an injector seal out of a 5.0l mustang in a cup full of nail polish remover
ill see what this does...and ill post the results
from what ive read even pure stuff at best swells the rubber seals a tad but if you submerse them in even double the recommended amount percentage wise your suposed to use, at best a barely noticeable swelling was observed. from what ive read plenty of people have done this. It seems like the actual mpg gain is probably more like 20% though. I suppose if it does work the reason why everyone isn't using it is simply because it doesnt work well enough to really be worth messing with everytime you fill up so why bother at all. thats my thought anyway
v6stang07
05-07-2007, 02:28 AM
thats right, i knew i have used acetone for sumthin, my shop teacher has tons of spirits and acetone, i a have a SW down the street so im gonna pic some up
MEM 302 5.0L
05-07-2007, 10:07 AM
ok so the fingernail polish made the injector seal swell up to about 2 times the size it was to start with...
but i looked at the ingredients in the nail polish remover i used...and it was non-acetone...
so idk ....would it be worse with acetone?
stangant
05-07-2007, 11:31 AM
ok so how exactly dous the dry ice work cuz i got dent from carts and i need them gone.
RyansQuick6
05-07-2007, 01:17 PM
Well I'm going to the store right now to get some 100% pure acetone. I'm almost on empty so it's perfect for me.
Ryan
v6stang07
05-07-2007, 04:57 PM
great let us know how it goes
97tunedmustang
05-07-2007, 05:20 PM
ORIGINAL: stangant
ok so how exactly dous the dry ice work cuz i got dent from carts and i need them gone.
It causes the metal to shrink and expand when you change the temp drastically. it actually works best if you heat up the offending area with a blow dryer on high heat for a minute. then immediately place the dry ice around the area, and then onto the dent itself.
cisurfer
05-07-2007, 05:24 PM
where can you get dry ice from
97tunedmustang
05-07-2007, 05:31 PM
ORIGINAL: cisurfer
where can you get dry ice from
i dunno if you have a meijer near you but they sell it. im not sure of anywhere else
v6stang07
05-08-2007, 12:15 AM
well i have about 1.3 oz of acetone in my gas right now, i put like 7 gallons in today, it seems to run fine, not sure about the mileage yet tho
Top Gear
05-08-2007, 01:00 AM
Ok, if the dry ice can't touch the paint how do you cover it? In the video it looks like he's just pressing dry ice against the paint.
gxszone
05-08-2007, 10:30 AM
ORIGINAL: v6stang07
well i have about 1.3 oz of acetone in my gas right now, i put like 7 gallons in today, it seems to run fine, not sure about the mileage yet tho
Idid the same thing yesterday haha. I went to Sally Beauty Supply store and bought a 16oz bottle of pure acetone.
Ok sothis wasmy procedure and my results so far:
I was just about on empty so I went to the gas station and pumped $15 bucks of gas at 2.90/gal // drove to my grandma's house about 1 mile away and let my car sit idle for about 2 1/2 hours. When I turned it on it was making a weird noise (like water drops falling in a tin bucket 1 by 1 and would increase in frequencyas throttle increased) I figured I had put too much acetone for only $15 of gas so I drove to the gas station and pumped $5 more. When I turned my car back on it started up like it normally would.
I noticed where my gas needle was before pumping the extra $5 so that i would know how much mileage it would give me, with just $5 (@ 3.00/gal = 1.66 gal) So I drove to my gf house and back and now this morning to work and the needle is finally where it was before pumping the $5. My trip meter reads 48 miles LOL - So far it's been 28 miles per gallon! (@ 48/1.66)
Top Gear
05-08-2007, 03:32 PM
ORIGINAL: gxszone
ORIGINAL: v6stang07
well i have about 1.3 oz of acetone in my gas right now, i put like 7 gallons in today, it seems to run fine, not sure about the mileage yet tho
Idid the same thing yesterday haha. I went to Sally Beauty Supply store and bought a 16oz bottle of pure acetone.
Ok sothis wasmy procedure and my results so far:
I was just about on empty so I went to the gas station and pumped $15 bucks of gas at 2.90/gal // drove to my grandma's house about 1 mile away and let my car sit idle for about 2 1/2 hours. When I turned it on it was making a weird noise (like water drops falling in a tin bucket 1 by 1 and would increase in frequencyas throttle increased) I figured I had put too much acetone for only $15 of gas so I drove to the gas station and pumped $5 more. When I turned my car back on it started up like it normally would.
I noticed where my gas needle was before pumping the extra $5 so that i would know how much mileage it would give me, with just $5 (@ 3.00/gal = 1.66 gal) So I drove to my gf house and back and now this morning to work and the needle is finally where it was before pumping the $5. My trip meter reads 48 miles LOL - So far it's been 28 miles per gallon! (@ 48/1.66)
Wow thats crazy, if this really works and doesn't harm any thing why doesn't every one do it? You would think it would be on the news or some thing so people knew about it. I'll still wait till I try it just to see other peoples results too.
amrcnidyot
05-08-2007, 03:40 PM
ORIGINAL: gxszone
ORIGINAL: v6stang07
well i have about 1.3 oz of acetone in my gas right now, i put like 7 gallons in today, it seems to run fine, not sure about the mileage yet tho
Idid the same thing yesterday haha. I went to Sally Beauty Supply store and bought a 16oz bottle of pure acetone.
Ok sothis wasmy procedure and my results so far:
I was just about on empty so I went to the gas station and pumped $15 bucks of gas at 2.90/gal // drove to my grandma's house about 1 mile away and let my car sit idle for about 2 1/2 hours. When I turned it on it was making a weird noise (like water drops falling in a tin bucket 1 by 1 and would increase in frequencyas throttle increased) I figured I had put too much acetone for only $15 of gas so I drove to the gas station and pumped $5 more. When I turned my car back on it started up like it normally would.
I noticed where my gas needle was before pumping the extra $5 so that i would know how much mileage it would give me, with just $5 (@ 3.00/gal = 1.66 gal) So I drove to my gf house and back and now this morning to work and the needle is finally where it was before pumping the $5. My trip meter reads 48 miles LOL - So far it's been 28 miles per gallon! (@ 48/1.66)
thats a very inacurate way to get mpg. you need to fill up the tank completely and put the acetone in then drive it like normal and the next time you fill up record how many gallons you put in. then divide that by how many miles you went since the first fill up.
gxszone
05-08-2007, 04:04 PM
What differencewould half a tank vs. a full tank render? The MPG average will be the same throughout. Prior to the experiment my car would average 17-19 MPG -- thus far with acetone it's averaging 28 MPG.
gxszone
05-08-2007, 04:12 PM
Top Gear:
They might beweary of fuel additivescausing long-term damage. I could care less lol
amrcnidyot
05-08-2007, 04:15 PM
ORIGINAL: gxszone
What differencewould half a tank vs. a full tank render? The MPG average will be the same throughout. Prior to the experiment my car would average 17-19 MPG -- thus far with acetone it's averaging 28 MPG.
that has nothing to do with it. you dont have to use a whole tank to do what i said.its using math instead of your eye. going by where the needle is is not acurate at all.
RyansQuick6
05-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Ok, my gas light finally came on, so now I can perform this test properly
I have 2 tools:
1. 32oz pure acetone, obtained from Lowe's for a whopping $6.
2. A nitro r/c car fuel filler bottle. I happened to have a few lying around since I hace 3 nitro cars all on different fuels.
It looks like this:
http://www.cenracing.com/faq/m02.jpg
It's about 6" tall not including the metal neck, which makes it really eassy to put in the tank while at the pump.
Now get your refill bottle and a measuring cup. Using the measuring cup, pour water into the bottle 1oz at a time. Mark the bottle with a "fine tip" sharpie at every oz. Go ahead and mark the bottle up to about 3/4 full, this way you can measure out once and get several fillups without having to be all tedious for measurement over and over agian.
After the bottle is marked, pour out all the water and go ahead and fill with acetone. If you're not familiar with these little bottles, then only put in 2oz for a 10gal fill up. You have to squeeze the bottle for the acetone to come out, and there's not getting that stuff back if you oversqueeze, and then damage may occur.
Now take your 2oz of acetone in your refill bottle and go put 10 gallons of gas in your car for 33 friggin bucks! Put the acetone in BEFORE YOU PUMP so that it mixes properly, then pump your 10 gallons of gas.
Now if you crank your car up and hear any strange sounds, and you followed all these steps properly, go ahead and add 5 more gallons of fuel. If it sounds fine then reduce the amount of acetone you use by 1/2 - 1oz. per 10 gallons of fuel.
Now with everything working properly, drive your car normally, not normally for you, normally for a regular person, and then calculate your mileage.
I hope I explained it well enough, I'm eating and waiting to go do a fill-up.
Ryan
97tunedmustang
05-08-2007, 05:01 PM
ORIGINAL: amrcnidyot
ORIGINAL: gxszone
What differencewould half a tank vs. a full tank render? The MPG average will be the same throughout. Prior to the experiment my car would average 17-19 MPG -- thus far with acetone it's averaging 28 MPG.
that has nothing to do with it. you dont have to use a whole tank to do what i said.its using math instead of your eye. going by where the needle is is not acurate at all.
yea the needle is very innaccurate to follow. i was on E yesterday so i put in a full tank at $3.39 a gallon! cost me $47 to fill up[:@]i added about 3 ounces of acetone to the tank so we'll see if i get any increase by the time i hit E again. Normallyi get around 230 miles by the time i hit the E marking. and at that point i usually still have about 1.5 gallons left. It claims like 35% increase in gas mileage but ill be surprised if i see a 20% increase which is 276 miles. I should get 310 miles however if it works as is claimed.
97tunedmustang
05-08-2007, 05:05 PM
ORIGINAL: RyansQuick6
Now with everything working properly, drive your car normally, not normally for you, normally for a regular person, and then calculate your mileage.
hahaha that made me laugh:D
Top Gear
05-08-2007, 05:09 PM
Yea, I think my fuel needle is broken or some thing because when I shut my car off and look at it and see its just under full, next time i start up it shows i loss a quarter tank.... It moves kinda weird like that is that normal?
RyansQuick6
05-08-2007, 05:20 PM
There is nothing normal about the operation of the factory needle, everyone's works different.
Ryan
RyansQuick6
05-08-2007, 10:28 PM
Okay so I went to the gas station, poured in 3oz of Acetone and topped off the tank, roughly 13 gallons since there was still a little in there. I've driven a whopping 8 miles since, but no driveability issues so far lol.
Ryan
v6stang07
05-08-2007, 11:57 PM
i havnt had any problems and i have been 20 miles not sure about my gas mileage yet
gxszone
05-09-2007, 01:10 AM
I have driven 81 miles so far since I last pumped gas (7 gallons w/ 1.5 ounces of acetone) and have not even gone down a quarter tank yet.
97tunedmustang
05-09-2007, 01:16 AM
i put in the 3oz of acetone and i drove a few miles.. and the engine seized!![:@]
jk:D no problems here either and i've racked up about 70 miles. not even gonna guess at the gas mileage as inaccurate as my gas gauge is lol.i think i'll wait till i'm on empty and then fill up so i know exactly how much was used and then be able to figure out what my actual mpg was.
gxszone
05-09-2007, 10:20 AM
Update: 88 miles driven so far and I still have 1.5 quarter tank left, which normally yields 90 miles. Assuming it now yields 110 miles,that will put the total of miles traveledper 7 gallons of gas at: 198.That = 28.28 MPG haha a lot better than my 18-19.
gxszone
05-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Next time I'll fill up with 10 gallons and take pictures of the dashtwice a day,as a log, for you guys. It'll besomewhat of adocumentary on the acetone as a fuel additive myth.
stangant
05-09-2007, 11:04 AM
publix sells dry ice if ur lookin for it and are in the central to south east of the us lol
Jugador
05-09-2007, 01:24 PM
driving styles are still going to affect mileage differently, and i wouldnt trust that 28 mpg claim. i may add some of my brothers acetone to the tacoma just to see if i get better mileage on the way home at the end of this week.
for those that dont know, hardware stores sell like gallon jugs of acetone but its those metal cans with lids that are really easy to put on wrong
gxszone
05-09-2007, 03:26 PM
ORIGINAL: Jugador
driving styles are still going to affect mileage differently, and i wouldnt trust that 28 mpg claim. i may add some of my brothers acetone to the tacoma just to see if i get better mileage on the way home at the end of this week.
for those that dont know, hardware stores sell like gallon jugs of acetone but its those metal cans with lids that are really easy to put on wrong
If (and it is) my driving style, after adding acetone, is consistent with times prior then how could my "claim" not be trusted?
Have you guys noticed more power that these sites claim ?
Durr727
05-09-2007, 08:39 PM
I don't think they mean power as in horsepower put in "power" as in what you feel.
Just like the gas pedal mod, my car felt like a whole new beast after I did that.
With the acetone it should run better and more efficently and therefore increase performance a little bit.
Derf00
05-09-2007, 08:46 PM
ORIGINAL: Jugador
i make no guarantees about gains in mileage from acetone, however ive got some comments.
1. my brothers suburban which failed the tailpipe emissions test a year before passed this year with flying colors using acetone (wayyyyy better numbers than my mustang). if you've got a car that might not pass smog, try it, you'll be surprised.
2. a gallon has 128 oz. 1-3 oz of acetone per 1280 oz of gas is not going to harm anything.
3. it would be wise to put acetone in before pumping gas so you mix it up well
look into xylene also, some people use it. it's really all trial and error and you'll need to have consistent conditions to be sure that you had gains strictly from the acetone unless the numbers are just that much better.
Well, that makes sense considering Acetone as described, breaks the surface tension of gas making it easier to atomize thus getting better combustion.
RyansQuick6
05-09-2007, 09:21 PM
I've put about 80+ miles since my acetone treatment, and I've noticed my car sounds slightly different. I've also been drunk as a skunk since about 5 hours after I did it and I'm still hung over, so that may play a part in it. I haven't noticed a difference on the needle yet, but I don't trust the needle anyway, so hopefully in 300 miles I'll know, otherwise it'll be another 240 lol
It's worth the $6 for the 32oz acetone just to try it.
Ryan
v6stang07
05-09-2007, 09:47 PM
great site, man i had to buy a whole gallon and sherwin williams for 16 bux, arrhrhrh!
i have about 55 miles on my tank but i didnt fill up so i dont really have a good mpg estimate but i will be goin to the beach this w/e and it will be straight highway so ill do it again then and see if i can tell a difference, i normally get about 340 miles to a tank on the highway
MustangMike2001
05-14-2007, 07:58 AM
I'm going to try this tomorrow. I need to fill up anyways. How many ounces do our tanks need?
NeoTokyo
05-14-2007, 08:49 AM
So did this actually work? Are any of you guys gaining any REAL WORLD milage gains?
BTW, dont get gas on the 15th this tuesday.
Its a formal refusal to buy gas. Its been in news, news papers, radio shows, blocks, myspace, youtube and everywhere. Its a protest in the high cost of fuel prices.
Just 1 day of no one buying gas will cost the oil companies billions, yup I said it, billions...
This was done back in the 70's and they cut gas prices so far back because of that one day.
Some people are saying that if we do this that oil companies may lower the gas price down as low as $1.50/gal
So remember this Tues DO NOT GET GAS!!!
Unless you want to keep putting that stuff in your gas trying to get better fuel economy :)
MustangMike2001
05-14-2007, 01:05 PM
Yeah right they will probably raise prices to make up for what they lost lol
v6stang07
05-14-2007, 05:01 PM
okay i went 285 miles with acetone mixed in with my gas and i got 26 mpg. 200 miles was strictly highway and 85 was stop and go, back and forth, so not bad. i def have not drivability issues, i will def continue to add the acetone
gxszone
05-14-2007, 05:02 PM
It actually worked for me. I used to average 18 MPG CITY/HWY and now I'm at 26-28MPG. The car feels really light on its feet (wheels) causing it to accelerate rather easily. The other day I was cruising at 80 and punched it and in no time the needle was burried at 120.
v6stang07
05-14-2007, 07:26 PM
i havnt really noticed any power difference but i think my mileage was better
defconfire
05-14-2007, 07:30 PM
I think i may have lost mileage but i also poured a s***load of acetone in
v6stang07
05-14-2007, 07:33 PM
that was ur problem, 3 oz per 10 gallons
more isnt always better
RyansQuick6
05-14-2007, 07:37 PM
Well I ended up doing too much hard driving to see a mileage increase. Mine was down, but it was down like it normally would have been. I know there's no way to gauge it when you do that so I'm gonna try it again until I either see better results or burn through that 32oz container I got.
Ryan
MustangMike2001
05-14-2007, 09:59 PM
Does this look like the right stuff? It dosn't say 100% anywhere but it was the only kind they had at Lowes.
Yup, look on the back, the only ingredient is the chemical formula for acetone.
MustangMike2001
05-14-2007, 10:09 PM
Ok yeah I see it. What isan easy way to measure out three ounces?
defconfire
05-14-2007, 10:55 PM
Mesuing cup is the easiest way. Or you could do what i did and pour 1/4 the F&*%ing bottle in your tank and see what happens... mileage went down:(
Top Gear
05-14-2007, 11:14 PM
I almost need a fill up I'm going to wait till my needle is on E first. What's a good brand name of acetone to get? And how do i put it in the gas tank do I use a funel? Also Would it be better to put the acetone in first then fill up or fill up then add acetone?
defconfire
05-14-2007, 11:21 PM
I think your best bet is to put the acetone in at the pump and then fill up the tank (it mixes better). As for a brand I think they should all work about the same I bought mine at Lowes hardware.
v6stang07
05-15-2007, 12:43 AM
whatever brand, if mixes decent with gas but puttin it in at the pump would be best, i put mine in a 12oz squeeze bottle (like a ketchup bottle) and marked off 12 intervals so i know each is one oz. i have a whole gallon cause thats all sherwin williams had
MEM 302 5.0L
05-15-2007, 02:50 PM
have any of you tried this in any foxbody 5.0's?
i heard it can damage older engines....
Top Gear
05-15-2007, 03:47 PM
Ok this friday I'm going to fill up and add this in probably. I'm going to go to ACO hardware store and get ACETONE, but inorder to get it in my tank I'm going to need some kind of spray bottle right? (If you can post a pic of spray bottle kinda like what you used so I know what to look for when I buy one.)Then I'm going to go to a pump and spray 3oz of ACETONE in to my tank then fill it up to the top. Is that how I should do it? I'm affriad I might mess some thing up then blow my engine or some thing lol.
RyansQuick6
05-15-2007, 08:47 PM
I'm gonna do some more research, because all kinds of chemical have come up in topics like this over the years that I've been on various forums. Some guys run xylene, acetone, and a few other types of chemicals. Some of it is for more power, less detonation, or better gas mileage.
Ryan
bonsaicult
05-15-2007, 09:14 PM
I found this site with alot of answers to these questions..... I'm going to try it, I'm also going to reset the ECU
so it relearns on the acetone mix....
bonsaicult
05-15-2007, 09:15 PM
oops..... here is a link to the site....
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
spoke2go1
05-16-2007, 02:00 PM
ORIGINAL: MEM 302 5.0L
have any of you tried this in any foxbody 5.0's?
i heard it can damage older engines....
is this true? i have a 94 v6 and i dont want to damage it
v6stang07
05-16-2007, 03:14 PM
check out that web site everything seems great, u dont need a spray bottle, just something that u can squeeze or pour out of and into your tank like an old lucas bottle or sumthin
FBCBEER
05-16-2007, 04:31 PM
Overall, these both seem like awesome tips.
Is it safe to put the dry ice right on the paint?
v6stang07
05-16-2007, 04:41 PM
i would put a towel on the surface cause u dont want it sticking for some stupid reason, jmo
briansgonnawin
05-16-2007, 08:37 PM
heres some scientificexplanation
http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
on the Fordf150 site theres a couple people thast been trying this for a while.
heres some one of the links. these are very old topics
http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20248&highlight=acetone
lawn mower test at bottom of page on this
http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19897&highlight=acetone
and also, there might be long term effects, such as disentigrating fuel lines etc, but i cant find the results for those tests somepeople did.
MustangMike2001
05-18-2007, 07:29 AM
RESULTS>>
Ok so I filled the Stang back up today for the official results. I had used the 3oz per 10gal mixture and I put the acetone in before filling up for a good mix. I even used the same pump I filled up with the first time for the refill. Iended up getting21.55 mpg which is the EXACT same number I got the last time I calculated my milage without the acetone.
Top Gear
05-18-2007, 04:21 PM
Hello, I just bought sunnyside acetone today at aco for 5.99. Just want to make sure it's the right stuff and won't harm my engine. There's tons of warnings all over it basicly the only wrighting on it is a warning lol... says on front 100%water miscible I'm not sure what that means, any ideas?
Top Gear
05-18-2007, 04:30 PM
Almost forgot found a pic of what I bought http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C02AW4/ref=olp_product_details/103-9158130-9732622?ie=UTF8&seller=
Also are all the warnings on the box some thing I should take seriously? It says that even the vapors can cause flash fires, not to breath in and not to get on skin goes on and on, I thought it was compareable to gasoline and gasoline doesn't have all these warnings and stuff. I guess it would be a good idea to buy a new messuring unit instead of using my moms kitchen measuring cup....
Another thing does it really matter if you put it in first or after fill up? I was thinking first but I thought about it and if I put it in after it would basicly be the same I would guess the acetone is heavier too.