Roush 27R - Input please
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Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 12:32:24 PM
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Vance
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I actually posted this on the 4.6 specific forum, so I'm sorry for the spam. I'm new to the forums.
I'm looking at buying a new 07 Mustang with the Roush 427R package. Drive off price I was quoted, using Deluxe GT as our base, was 49k. I live in the Bay Area, Ca. (forgot to mention that, sorry!)
Should I be able to do better? I don't want to offend the dealership, but yet don't want to get ripped off at the same time.
Last Mustang I owned was a 66 GT Fastback. Haven't been able to bring myself to buy another until now. I missed it too much and not just anything could take its place.
Thanks very much for your consideration.
- vance
< Message edited by Vance -- 5/4/2007 12:36:11 PM >
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 2:16:55 PM
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mills281e
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I have no idea what Roush's cost.....but 49K for one of their flagship versions with 427 ponies doesn't sound bad at all.
P.S. Don't ever worry about offending a dealership.....the worst they could say is "No" 
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 3:06:28 PM
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LilRoush
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That is a pretty good price. I know of people who are paying over $50K for them.
If you want more info, check out the Roush forum: www.fnsweet.com/forums They're pretty friendly and have a world of knowledge on the cars.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 4:02:32 PM
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bigtone408
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If you want to spend that much just get the Stage 3. You can get the 427R w/ all the Stage 3 options, but you'll pay more for the 427R nameplate. The good thing about the 427R is you can get it cheaper if you don't put all the bells and whistles on it ie. Brakes, Suspension, interior trim etc.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 5:56:54 PM
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mills281e
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So let me get this straight.....you can buy a 427R without all the Stage 3 components. Get one of the meanest engine platforms Roush offers....but not get the entire "package" with it. If that's true......I'm going to make like Ricky Bobby and pray to Baby Jesus that it isn't so...
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 6:04:10 PM
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fastautos
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The base 427-R is actually a stripped down Stage 3 with an off-road exhaust and some extra badging. You can add many of the components on as options, but the base car doesn't have the 14-inch brakes, Roush interior, rear fascia, short throw shifter, gauges, dash trim kit, or quarter window louvers.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 6:48:27 PM
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I like the new blackjack roush
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/4/2007 6:55:11 PM
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bigtone408
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So let me get this straight.....you can buy a 427R without all the Stage 3 components. Get one of the meanest engine platforms Roush offers....but not get the entire "package" with it. If that's true......I'm going to make like Ricky Bobby and pray to Baby Jesus that it isn't so...
That is correct. Same with the Black Jack. It was the same as the last body style w/ the 360R v. Stage 3. You could get the 360/380R without the suspension and brakes and side exhaust but same SC stage 3 motor and tune.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/5/2007 12:22:07 AM
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How much is the blackjack?
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/5/2007 4:10:18 AM
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bigtone408
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How much is the blackjack?
Not sure. Why not just buy an all black stage 3 if you're not looking at it for a collector item?
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/5/2007 9:16:01 AM
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LilRoush
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Black Jack is a limited production (100 units) fully loaed Stage 3 car - NOT a stripped down version. It comes in only black, and is noted for being the car Jack designed himself.
The 427R is NOT a stripped down Stage 3 either. It comes with blower/fuel sysyem/tune, the 13" brakes (14" upgrade is an option), full suspension and most of the other "bells and whistles". What it doesn't have is the aero package the Stage 3 comes with (lacks the sides and rear skirting, but has the front, splitter and winglike the 360R/380Rs had in the SN95 cars) or the Roush seats - which are an option on them.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/6/2007 7:30:48 PM
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I also am a fan of the Blackjack. I love the polished chrome blower, and flat black stripe. Had that car come out a year ago I would probably own one.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/6/2007 7:37:00 PM
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danam
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They just got three brand new Roush 427R at Harr Ford in Worcester,MA. Thats where I bought my Roush last year. The sticker is $48970 on them and none of them have the upgraded brake package. I like my Roush better as it has the full body kit, this one looks like regular GT in rear and no wing either. I'd go with a Stage 3 complete for $52K.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/7/2007 3:25:00 AM
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fastautos
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The 427R is NOT a stripped down Stage 3 either. It comes with blower/fuel sysyem/tune, the 13" brakes (14" upgrade is an option), full suspension and most of the other "bells and whistles". What it doesn't have is the aero package the Stage 3 comes with (lacks the sides and rear skirting, but has the front, splitter and winglike the 360R/380Rs had in the SN95 cars) or the Roush seats - which are an option on them.
So it doesn't come standard with the full aero kit, seats, short throw shifter, gauges, 14" brakes, or quarter window louvers. While it's not exactly "stripped down", I guess my point is that the base 427-R comes without a lot of stuff that is standard on the Stage 3.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/7/2007 11:47:08 AM
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So it doesn't come standard with the full aero kit, seats, short throw shifter, gauges, 14" brakes, or quarter window louvers. While it's not exactly "stripped down", I guess my point is that the base 427-R comes without a lot of stuff that is standard on the Stage 3.
Again, that's correct.
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/7/2007 9:45:16 PM
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mills281e
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So it doesn't come standard with the full aero kit, seats, short throw shifter, gauges, 14" brakes, or quarter window louvers. While it's not exactly "stripped down", I guess my point is that the base 427-R comes without a lot of stuff that is standard on the Stage 3.
This is what has me perplexed.....why is the 427R such a big deal if it is not "a big deal" 
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RE: Roush 27R - Input please - 5/7/2007 10:39:43 PM
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LilRoush
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Some of that isn't the standred on the S3 as well, but most carry the full option list right from Roush....like most of the 427R cars come with upgrades.
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