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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/11/2007 2:10:26 PM
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Last I checked a Vert GT loaded was $31,280 MSRP... if thats not close I have no idea what is. You are correct though it is a few thousand more..not hundreds...apologize for that.
As for the TBSS... I was merely stating that the BEST AWD time is still less than the best 2WD time...so 2WD > AWD as previously stated.
A convertable Vette costs more than the Vette coupe, just like a convertable Mustang GT costs more than a Mustang GT coupe so since they didn't make a convertable GTO, not sure why you would compare them? Might as well start comparing Mustang's to SUV's... 
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/11/2007 2:18:12 PM
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There was a guy at the track last night with an 06 GTO MT6 and the guys quickest out of 5 runs was a 14.2. I couldnt believe it. I thought that even if a complete moron was driving that car it would still be in the mid 13's at least. And there was another guy there with a moded out 06 GTO running 13.7. What a freaking overated piece of crap. The cars are ugly as hell and a total piece of garbage.
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/11/2007 2:26:01 PM
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Your planned production numbers (about 18K) are pretty close but your reason for stopping prodction...missed the mark. The GTO is really a Holden Monaro (Australian Muscle Car) with some exterior changes. GM did rush to get it to market but that is primarly because they wanted to get it to market so it could have a 3 yr run. The run couldn't be more than that because the vehicle could meet some safety requirement in the 2007 model yr. I don't rememer what...Side air bags or something. Anyway, they made what they made. As far as MSRP...you said a loaded Mustang GT. Well, when I was looking a "loaded" (wheels shaker sound system, appearance package, etc) bumped the MSRP over $30K. The MSRP on the GTO that I eventually boughtwas just over $31K. The only options available on the GTO were 18" wheels or and automatic transission. Everything else is standard. Mine came with the M6 ad th 18" wheels. Now the auto did have a as guzzler tax on t that bumped the price up...I think about $1,500. I don't doubt you are faster...you should be! Reasonably stock GTOs are heavier and make less HP. I think GTs are great cars...I just chose not to buy a Ford this time
At this time w are arguing semantics, the price differs depending on region, what I was talking about was what I have seen in my area, the GTO's started at 31.5k, if you got an automatic you were 1,300 higher, if you got stick you paid 700 higher, thats what was on the sticker from Pontiac, not something I made up. At the time I bought my '06 GT and that's what we're discussing here so it's as close to apples to apples since they don't make an '07 GTO my loaded GT with everything but the shaker 1000 was 27,500, the closest GTO I saw at the time was 32k. As for it not continuing past 2006, Pontiac in many interviews said they hoped to sell it longer than 3 years but that they started with 3 and would revisit depending on sales volume etc... they knew about the regs change for '07 and could have made changes had the car met sales goals, it didn't so GM got left over cars which were discounted to get them off the lot.
We can agree to disagree I think but we should be able to agree that they didn't sell the amount they wanted to per year.
Stock the GTO makes more horsepower than I did stock, as for weighing more a 100hp advantage really helps make up the difference. I shouldn't have beat the LS2 versions I beat before the SC but I believe I beat them because of driver issues, maybe because of the rear end setup they run, I don't know. As for beating them now, there was one a few weeks ago that did pretty damn well, but he was pretty modded as well so it was all good, we had fun and talked for awhile after we ran.
In the end I really liked the Holden, fantastic looking and performing car but not a GTO, sadly Pontiac took the easy route and hopefully they learned from that and will bring the Goat back as it was meant to be.
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/11/2007 2:27:24 PM
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There was a guy at the track last night with an 06 GTO MT6 and the guys quickest out of 5 runs was a 14.2. I couldnt believe it. I thought that even if a complete moron was driving that car it would still be in the mid 13's at least. And there was another guy there with a moded out 06 GTO running 13.7. What a freaking overated piece of crap. The cars are ugly as hell and a total piece of garbage.
That's a bit harsh, I have seen stockers go 13.4's which granted isn't what you'd expect either but garbage? You really think that way?
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/11/2007 2:29:45 PM
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There was a guy at the track last night with an 06 GTO MT6 and the guys quickest out of 5 runs was a 14.2. I couldnt believe it. I thought that even if a complete moron was driving that car it would still be in the mid 13's at least. And there was another guy there with a moded out 06 GTO running 13.7. What a freaking overated piece of crap. The cars are ugly as hell and a total piece of garbage.
yeah there was a terminator running 9.22's in the 1/8 in a video awhile back... lets blame it on the car and call it an over rated piece of trash!!! YEAH!!
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/11/2007 2:41:31 PM
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Last I checked a Vert GT loaded was $31,280 MSRP... if thats not close I have no idea what is. You are correct though it is a few thousand more..not hundreds...apologize for that.
As for the TBSS... I was merely stating that the BEST AWD time is still less than the best 2WD time...so 2WD > AWD as previously stated.
A convertable Vette costs more than the Vette coupe, just like a convertable Mustang GT costs more than a Mustang GT coupe so since they didn't make a convertable GTO, not sure why you would compare them? Might as well start comparing Mustang's to SUV's...
Option for option yes the vert is more.......but a well equipped coupe is more than a limited equipped vert..
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/11/2007 11:42:58 PM
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Hello guys. While reading these threads i can't believe some of the statements made. First, I have always loved mustangs. I had four and i had a T/a. Please don't get me wrong, because I like the debate that goes on between the two cars,(GTO and Mustang) but while searching for my new car I test drove a couple of cars. The mustang was the first I drove. It did nothing for me. The interior reminded me of a ford taurus I use to drive. I then looked for the after market and how much power could be gained N/A. I then went to the track to see what times everyone was getting with the stangs. With all the bolt ons, I saw one run 12.8 @106. Sorry but this was not impressive, because i estimated he spent a total of $2600 to $3000 on mods, including labor. I then began to look into the GTO. I thought it was an ugly car at first, but i began to look beyond the looks. The engine has so much potential, alot more than the GT n/a. I listened to how everyone said the GTO was so slow, but found it amazing how the guys on SVTperformance talk very high about the GTO and most of these guys have Terminators. I have run 12.7@109 with just drag tries. I am not the only GTO who has ran 12s with just tires. The weight difference is not that big of a deal. I read these articles and most of the guys who talk bad about the GTOs, have never owned any other muscle car, but the guys who have a substantial amount of work done to their GTs, give the GTO its just do.
The Mustang has always been the car you could buy heads, cam, and so on and get good times. In 96, that changed. Yes the new mustang has the after market, but the potential of the GTO is incredible. It may cost more money, but As stated before, I have a total of $3800 tied into my car and with tires I am now running 11.9 @116. (before that time I ran 12.4) I will never talk bad about another man's vehicle, because i am not the fastest car out there. I am not finished, I am adding Nitrous to my car next month. The bottom line is personal preference. I just feel Ford is always behind the eight ball with power. Which means the buyer has to spend thousands of dollars on modifictions. They got the Cobra, Mach1 and GT-500 wright, but why did'nt they put the Mach1's engine in the GT? As far as looks, I get consistent compliments on my GTO, because like many other people, I added wheels and other parts. The car idles like a 69 Goat and I still haven't touched my heads yet. Any non-believers can call Harris speed works and they can tell you my what I just told you.
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 1:16:55 AM
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Hello guys. While reading these threads i can't believe some of the statements made. First, I have always loved mustangs. I had four and i had a T/a. Please don't get me wrong, because I like the debate that goes on between the two cars,(GTO and Mustang) but while searching for my new car I test drove a couple of cars. The mustang was the first I drove. It did nothing for me. The interior reminded me of a ford taurus I use to drive. I then looked for the after market and how much power could be gained N/A. I then went to the track to see what times everyone was getting with the stangs. With all the bolt ons, I saw one run 12.8 @106. Sorry but this was not impressive, because i estimated he spent a total of $2600 to $3000 on mods, including labor. I then began to look into the GTO. I thought it was an ugly car at first, but i began to look beyond the looks. The engine has so much potential, alot more than the GT n/a. I listened to how everyone said the GTO was so slow, but found it amazing how the guys on SVTperformance talk very high about the GTO and most of these guys have Terminators. I have run 12.7@109 with just drag tries. I am not the only GTO who has ran 12s with just tires. The weight difference is not that big of a deal. I read these articles and most of the guys who talk bad about the GTOs, have never owned any other muscle car, but the guys who have a substantial amount of work done to their GTs, give the GTO its just do.
The Mustang has always been the car you could buy heads, cam, and so on and get good times. In 96, that changed. Yes the new mustang has the after market, but the potential of the GTO is incredible. It may cost more money, but As stated before, I have a total of $3800 tied into my car and with tires I am now running 11.9 @116. (before that time I ran 12.4) I will never talk bad about another man's vehicle, because i am not the fastest car out there. I am not finished, I am adding Nitrous to my car next month. The bottom line is personal preference. I just feel Ford is always behind the eight ball with power. Which means the buyer has to spend thousands of dollars on modifictions. They got the Cobra, Mach1 and GT-500 wright, but why did'nt they put the Mach1's engine in the GT? As far as looks, I get consistent compliments on my GTO, because like many other people, I added wheels and other parts. The car idles like a 69 Goat and I still haven't touched my heads yet. Any non-believers can call Harris speed works and they can tell you my what I just told you.
You saw one run 12.8@106 and generaalized every Mustang into that basket which proves you know very little about Ford powerplants, the rest of your post wasn't worth reading after that so if something worthwhuile was said, your initial ignorance killed it.
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 1:34:32 AM
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Hello guys. While reading these threads i can't believe some of the statements made. First, I have always loved mustangs. I had four and i had a T/a. Please don't get me wrong, because I like the debate that goes on between the two cars,(GTO and Mustang) but while searching for my new car I test drove a couple of cars. The mustang was the first I drove. It did nothing for me. The interior reminded me of a ford taurus I use to drive. I then looked for the after market and how much power could be gained N/A. I then went to the track to see what times everyone was getting with the stangs. With all the bolt ons, I saw one run 12.8 @106. Sorry but this was not impressive, because i estimated he spent a total of $2600 to $3000 on mods, including labor. I then began to look into the GTO. I thought it was an ugly car at first, but i began to look beyond the looks. The engine has so much potential, alot more than the GT n/a. I listened to how everyone said the GTO was so slow, but found it amazing how the guys on SVTperformance talk very high about the GTO and most of these guys have Terminators. I have run 12.7@109 with just drag tries. I am not the only GTO who has ran 12s with just tires. The weight difference is not that big of a deal. I read these articles and most of the guys who talk bad about the GTOs, have never owned any other muscle car, but the guys who have a substantial amount of work done to their GTs, give the GTO its just do.
The Mustang has always been the car you could buy heads, cam, and so on and get good times. In 96, that changed. Yes the new mustang has the after market, but the potential of the GTO is incredible. It may cost more money, but As stated before, I have a total of $3800 tied into my car and with tires I am now running 11.9 @116. (before that time I ran 12.4) I will never talk bad about another man's vehicle, because i am not the fastest car out there. I am not finished, I am adding Nitrous to my car next month. The bottom line is personal preference. I just feel Ford is always behind the eight ball with power. Which means the buyer has to spend thousands of dollars on modifictions. They got the Cobra, Mach1 and GT-500 wright, but why did'nt they put the Mach1's engine in the GT? As far as looks, I get consistent compliments on my GTO, because like many other people, I added wheels and other parts. The car idles like a 69 Goat and I still haven't touched my heads yet. Any non-believers can call Harris speed works and they can tell you my what I just told you.
You saw one run 12.8@106 and generaalized every Mustang into that basket which proves you know very little about Ford powerplants, the rest of your post wasn't worth reading after that so if something worthwhuile was said, your initial ignorance killed it.
You know something....Every single one of your posts is to a degree a personal attack on someone if they don't agree with your beliefs.....Why don't you chill out.....Yes, a Full bolt-on S197 with tires is at best a mid 12 second car......Myself and I'm sure many others in here will say thats a fair statement.................So why are you contesting it? Did you run low 12's-high 11's N/A? If not, then you have no business slamming anybody...
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 1:51:45 AM
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Hello guys. While reading these threads i can't believe some of the statements made. First, I have always loved mustangs. I had four and i had a T/a. Please don't get me wrong, because I like the debate that goes on between the two cars,(GTO and Mustang) but while searching for my new car I test drove a couple of cars. The mustang was the first I drove. It did nothing for me. The interior reminded me of a ford taurus I use to drive. I then looked for the after market and how much power could be gained N/A. I then went to the track to see what times everyone was getting with the stangs. With all the bolt ons, I saw one run 12.8 @106. Sorry but this was not impressive, because i estimated he spent a total of $2600 to $3000 on mods, including labor. I then began to look into the GTO. I thought it was an ugly car at first, but i began to look beyond the looks. The engine has so much potential, alot more than the GT n/a. I listened to how everyone said the GTO was so slow, but found it amazing how the guys on SVTperformance talk very high about the GTO and most of these guys have Terminators. I have run 12.7@109 with just drag tries. I am not the only GTO who has ran 12s with just tires. The weight difference is not that big of a deal. I read these articles and most of the guys who talk bad about the GTOs, have never owned any other muscle car, but the guys who have a substantial amount of work done to their GTs, give the GTO its just do.
The Mustang has always been the car you could buy heads, cam, and so on and get good times. In 96, that changed. Yes the new mustang has the after market, but the potential of the GTO is incredible. It may cost more money, but As stated before, I have a total of $3800 tied into my car and with tires I am now running 11.9 @116. (before that time I ran 12.4) I will never talk bad about another man's vehicle, because i am not the fastest car out there. I am not finished, I am adding Nitrous to my car next month. The bottom line is personal preference. I just feel Ford is always behind the eight ball with power. Which means the buyer has to spend thousands of dollars on modifictions. They got the Cobra, Mach1 and GT-500 wright, but why did'nt they put the Mach1's engine in the GT? As far as looks, I get consistent compliments on my GTO, because like many other people, I added wheels and other parts. The car idles like a 69 Goat and I still haven't touched my heads yet. Any non-believers can call Harris speed works and they can tell you my what I just told you.
You saw one run 12.8@106 and generaalized every Mustang into that basket which proves you know very little about Ford powerplants, the rest of your post wasn't worth reading after that so if something worthwhuile was said, your initial ignorance killed it.
You know something....Every single one of your posts is to a degree a personal attack on someone if they don't agree with your beliefs.....Why don't you chill out.....Yes, a Full bolt-on S197 with tires is at best a mid 12 second car......Myself and I'm sure many others in here will say thats a fair statement.................So why are you contesting it? Did you run low 12's-high 11's N/A? If not, then you have no business slamming anybody...
Tell you what, I am who I am and when someone posts bullsh*t, and he was posting ignorant bulls*t, I have no issue calling the person out on it (show me any personal attacks outside this stupid thread). If you don't like what I have to say you have the freedom and I know this might shock some people but you don't have to read it, or reply to it for that matter. I don't visit GTO forums to knock their cars, I don't visit Vette forums to knock their cars either, I'm sick of the "I looked at the Mustang but heres why I think it basically sucks" commentary. You know what, who cares? If you bought something else go to their forum and have a field day, coming to a forum where people chose the Mustang isn't going to get you a lot of thanks for sharing replies.
So, to insure my comment is understood one Mustang does not all other Mustang's make. I don't give a good damn how much can be done to the LS1 vs a 4.6, a 5.4 or a 5.0. If I did care I would seek out the LS1 forum and see what people say. So tell you what, don't like what I have to say, don't tell me how I should post, if the forum moderators feel I'm out of line they will let me know.
And YES, I have owned plenty of N/A Mustang's that ran 12's (my first one cost less than 1100 to build, engine, heads, the works) and a few others that ran N/A low 11's and a few FI in the 10's with far less cubic inches than LS1'setc, if people would like to do a dollar for dollar comparison of what it would take to get various GM and Ford cars into the 12's, 11's and 10's then start the debate but this GTO debate has gotten so old it lost any value it had and should probably be killed.
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 2:05:11 AM
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Fair enough, he made some negative statments about the new GT's......This is the S/S section which involves Mustangs versus other makes,I think someone with the make in question should have the chance for a rebuttal, so I guess you get irritated that someone with a make other than a Mustang is out of line for posting their opinion , because this section would be dead otherwise............Hell, he did'nt even quote you so I don't see why you are all upset!!!
I was talking solely about the S197.....The GTO guy is pretty much dead on. A Full bolt-on N/A S197 is a mid to high12second car at best......I don't know of too many ppl that doH/C's/I on modular engines....they usually go the FI route..So how is his post ignorant......
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 10:33:11 AM
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Fair enough, he made some negative statments about the new GT's......This is the S/S section which involves Mustangs versus other makes,I think someone with the make in question should have the chance for a rebuttal, so I guess you get irritated that someone with a make other than a Mustang is out of line for posting their opinion , because this section would be dead otherwise............Hell, he did'nt even quote you so I don't see why you are all upset!!!
I was talking solely about the S197.....The GTO guy is pretty much dead on. A Full bolt-on N/A S197 is a mid to high12second car at best......I don't know of too many ppl that doH/C's/I on modular engines....they usually go the FI route..So how is his post ignorant......
You make a valid point about this being a forum for posting about other cars as well, but its about other cars that you raced not bought. This sub-forum would be more on topic if people stopped discussing why they bought what car and why they didn't buy a Mustang and talked about what they raced instead.. There is an off topic forum for discussing whatever people want. You may think he was spot on but I don't think he was, I feel his ignorance was obvious, I just re-read his post and still feel that way, maybe I'm wrong, I don't think so.
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 11:14:09 AM
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Fair enough, he made some negative statments about the new GT's......This is the S/S section which involves Mustangs versus other makes,I think someone with the make in question should have the chance for a rebuttal, so I guess you get irritated that someone with a make other than a Mustang is out of line for posting their opinion , because this section would be dead otherwise............Hell, he did'nt even quote you so I don't see why you are all upset!!!
I was talking solely about the S197.....The GTO guy is pretty much dead on. A Full bolt-on N/A S197 is a mid to high12second car at best......I don't know of too many ppl that doH/C's/I on modular engines....they usually go the FI route..So how is his post ignorant......
You make a valid point about this being a forum for posting about other cars as well, but its about other cars that you raced not bought. This sub-forum would be more on topic if people stopped discussing why they bought what car and why they didn't buy a Mustang and talked about what they raced instead.. There is an off topic forum for discussing whatever people want. You may think he was spot on but I don't think he was, I feel his ignorance was obvious, I just re-read his post and still feel that way, maybe I'm wrong, I don't think so.
I agree, but you have been here long enough to know after a few pages it seems the discussions have nothing to do with the OP's original topic...lol
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 11:23:14 AM
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Fair enough, he made some negative statments about the new GT's......This is the S/S section which involves Mustangs versus other makes,I think someone with the make in question should have the chance for a rebuttal, so I guess you get irritated that someone with a make other than a Mustang is out of line for posting their opinion , because this section would be dead otherwise............Hell, he did'nt even quote you so I don't see why you are all upset!!!
I was talking solely about the S197.....The GTO guy is pretty much dead on. A Full bolt-on N/A S197 is a mid to high12second car at best......I don't know of too many ppl that doH/C's/I on modular engines....they usually go the FI route..So how is his post ignorant......
You make a valid point about this being a forum for posting about other cars as well, but its about other cars that you raced not bought. This sub-forum would be more on topic if people stopped discussing why they bought what car and why they didn't buy a Mustang and talked about what they raced instead.. There is an off topic forum for discussing whatever people want. You may think he was spot on but I don't think he was, I feel his ignorance was obvious, I just re-read his post and still feel that way, maybe I'm wrong, I don't think so.
I agree, but you have been here long enough to know after a few pages it seems the discussions have nothing to do with the OP's original topic...lol
Agreed 100%
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 4:35:05 PM
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ThisBlood147
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 5:34:25 PM
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lieu910
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Hello guys - a spirited debate!
I owned an 05 GTO 6-speed LS2 for about 6 months or so maybe more. Anyway, it stickered for about 33k and I paid around 27k after incentives. The GTO is a good value when you look at what they can be bought for.
As for how I liked the GTO. It was a nice daily driver. Very comfortable, nice interior with the exception of slow power seat motors and cheap HVAC knobs.
I added headers and a tune and a GMM ripper shifter. My car went a best of 13.23 with the mods. Certainly faster than my GT before my blower was added, but I've seen stock GT's running mid-high 13's at my strip, so for whatever that is worth.
I traded the GTO for my GT when I was given a company car. The GTO is a driver not a toy in my opinion. It's not a car I cared to throw any more money at or try to preserve in anyway as a toy. The character of the GTO just does not lend itself to cruise nights, and high dollar modifications.
The GT is all character. It's fun to look at, fun to be in, and fun to modify. Sure a stock LS2 GTO is faster, but it just does not exude any of the qualities I want in a toy car. Gears, tune, CAI and you'll have stock GTO performance or there about.
People can talk all they want about stock for stock the GTO is faster. It means nothing to me. I bought the GT to build a hot rod. From that standpoint, I think the GT has more to offer. Much better looks that pay homage to it's legacy inside and out, and a great aftermarket.
After the blower, all I can say is LSwhat?
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 6:19:57 PM
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EXACTLY!Can you say "boost"?
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RE: Ls2 GTO's are dogs.. - 5/12/2007 6:23:00 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Norse1974
EXACTLY!Can you say "boost"?
I dont know why everyone doesn't say it
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