Fatman, I think you'll be hard pressed to find many GT owners on this site that think their stock cars are the fastest thing on the road...and the OP's errant classification of the LS2 Goat as a "Dog" has been properly bashed in this thread, and should be enough even for your liking.
I like your list alittle better, atleast my 2v isnt last anymore and my 3v has alittle more credit to its name.
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Yea why is the tbss even mentioned in this thread again? But a awd would be more of a drivers race with a new edge gt, the a 2wd would be on the s197 level
Yea why is the tbss even mentioned in this thread again? But a awd would be more of a drivers race with a new edge gt, the a 2wd would be on the s197 level
the TBSS is mentioned in this thread because someone said an LS2 anything would put multiple lengths on any stock Mustang GT.
and your info is a little skewed... if you're gonna post and ridicule, at least follow up the ridicule with accurate information... now I have to take time out of my day and correct you
AWD TBSS = S197
RWD TBSS = New Edge
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ORIGINAL: punisher_GTO Driving an SRT4 must be like riding a unicorn, no matter how fast or strong it might be… its still gay as hell.
ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions the TBSS is mentioned in this thread because someone said an LS2 anything would put multiple lengths on any stock Mustang GT.
and your info is a little skewed... if you're gonna post and ridicule, at least follow up the ridicule with accurate information... now I have to take time out of my day and correct you
AWD TBSS = S197
RWD TBSS = New Edge
Confused by this.... the RWD TB SS has run 13.4 stock while the AWD variant has seen a 13.8 (from what i can find).... Anotherwords
A 'well' driven LS2 GTO is a low 13 / high 12 car.... that's a lot to go against with most mustangs. A mach1 'well' driven can get close but the only assured victory would be a 'well' driven S/C Cobra or GT500.
ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions the TBSS is mentioned in this thread because someone said an LS2 anything would put multiple lengths on any stock Mustang GT.
and your info is a little skewed... if you're gonna post and ridicule, at least follow up the ridicule with accurate information... now I have to take time out of my day and correct you
AWD TBSS = S197
RWD TBSS = New Edge
Confused by this.... the RWD TB SS has run 13.4 stock while the AWD variant has seen a 13.8 (from what i can find).... Anotherwords
RWD TB> AWD TB
you sure those times are right?? I have a Feeling the RWD one isnt stock.... THe AWD Should take the RWD one easily..... Look at the Jeep SRT8
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Not trying to be a dick but a well driven LS2 GTO will beat any modern mustang short of a Cobra or GT500.
Sure you are! I haven't seen any times online that indicate what you're saying. They are fast, but not cobra fast.
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Only if you can get it to the ground. 340hp > 300hp, but a charger R/T < s197GT
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If you think the ls2 gto is a dog your ignorant enough said. It would walk the new GT's..thats a car im not impressed with dont like anyting about it really and the interior is horrible.. GTO def has a better interior and power for sure, plus its better built and can have a new 06 gto for less than a new and some cases used GT. So yea you've ran horrible drivers or ls1's because your car would look bad against a properly driven one
MSRP for a loaded '06 GT vs MSRP for an '06 GTO isn't even close, the GTO costs way more however since they sold like crap, and sorry but that's the cold hard truth they can now be had for MUCH less than MSRP. Hence the reason Pontiac isn't offering it for sale anymore. I fail to see how it's better built? Pontiac isn't exactly known for making the best built cars, the GTO isn't any better, neither is the Mustang but if I were to compare the two, the Pontiac's I've owned in the past weren't what I would brag about, I've owned 13 Ford's over the years, none of them were problems, the few GM cars I've owned, are the very reason why I'll never own one again.
As for lowing to an '06 GTO, prior to the SC I never lost to one (I've squared off against several on the street and track), after the SC I haven't either but thats not really fair so I'll leave it out.
The GTO as a car is nice but it ain't a GTO.
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Some of you mustang guys are so funny. First: Sleeper05, your stang is very nice, but 12.7 @109 is what i ran stock! Most of you guys are always comparing a bolt on 05 to a stock GTO. Lets go bolt on for bolt on. I have owned 4 Mustangs, one being the 1994. I can remember when everyone complained about how ugly the new mustang was. I had people tell me how slow my car was, because it was a 94 and auto. They were right. That was the first year for the AODE and it was hard to find anyone who knew anything about the computer in the trans. Now, everyone loves the 94-95 stang and there are developments around the computer, but after i built the engine with all Edelbrock components, that car would not get out the 13s. I sold it for a 1997 TA. The car was a beast and after some work, became a low 12 sec car. With that said, I am putting 440rwhp with just a HPE-s cam, headers, pullie and tune. I just ran 12.40 at 115 at Atco on Friday, without drag tires. With tires, I am confident i will run high 11s. Sorry but i won't even run an 05-06 unless it has serious work. When I was stock, i raced 4 new mustangs and it was over before it started. I'm sorry, but I have always been a Mustang guy and I still love them, but Ford is always behind the eight ball. Everything has 300 HP and the turbo guys in other named cars are modifiying and leaving the stangs behind. And talk about the chargers and four doors, but I have seen some charges run 13.8s and that is what a stock stang runs. I am not bashing the Mustang, because I love the friendly comp, but come on a real car guy will call it what it is. Tkae the SRT-8 Jeep. Now that is performance, 13.1 at 103 is what one ran friday night, bone stock. As for looks of the GTO. They are Suspect, that is why I put 18.0 front and 18.5 in rear AZA silver. My car is black with 20 perc tint. I receive complimants all day long on my car and I even have older guys telling thats the way a GTO should sound. I am at Atco everyother week and anticipate being there in the next couple weeks. If anyone wants to see a n/a GTO run 11s be my guess. My tag reads FATMAN
I don't have time to dig into the entire diatribe but for everyone complaining about how ugly the '94 Mustang was they sure sold a sh*tload of them, they out sold all f-bodies combined and did so every year, why because the average buyer didn't think they were ugly, indeed they thought they were rather nice looking. Which might explain why the Mustang was so popular, even during it's off years it sold much better than the GM counterparts.
As for running stock for stock, screw that, I don't understand why people have the need to compare cars that way, run what ya brung, if you win great, if you lose such is life, work on it till you don't. I know the '06 GTO is capable of 12's but having seen a bunch of them in the mid 13's, some on slicks, I'd really love to see a stocker go 12's.
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Fatman, I think you'll be hard pressed to find many GT owners on this site that think their stock cars are the fastest thing on the road...and the OP's errant classification of the LS2 Goat as a "Dog" has been properly bashed in this thread, and should be enough even for your liking.
yup i haven't really read anything of anyone saying how "great" their 2v is. i know my 2v sucks against other V-8's and even some ricers, so that's why i'm going 4v
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dynoed at 263rwhp/261rwtq after cobra swap (without C&L and UDP)
Some of you mustang guys are so funny. First: Sleeper05, your stang is very nice, but 12.7 @109 is what i ran stock! Most of you guys are always comparing a bolt on 05 to a stock GTO. Lets go bolt on for bolt on. I have owned 4 Mustangs, one being the 1994. I can remember when everyone complained about how ugly the new mustang was. I had people tell me how slow my car was, because it was a 94 and auto. They were right. That was the first year for the AODE and it was hard to find anyone who knew anything about the computer in the trans. Now, everyone loves the 94-95 stang and there are developments around the computer, but after i built the engine with all Edelbrock components, that car would not get out the 13s. I sold it for a 1997 TA. The car was a beast and after some work, became a low 12 sec car. With that said, I am putting 440rwhp with just a HPE-s cam, headers, pullie and tune. I just ran 12.40 at 115 at Atco on Friday, without drag tires. With tires, I am confident i will run high 11s. Sorry but i won't even run an 05-06 unless it has serious work. When I was stock, i raced 4 new mustangs and it was over before it started. I'm sorry, but I have always been a Mustang guy and I still love them, but Ford is always behind the eight ball. Everything has 300 HP and the turbo guys in other named cars are modifiying and leaving the stangs behind. And talk about the chargers and four doors, but I have seen some charges run 13.8s and that is what a stock stang runs. I am not bashing the Mustang, because I love the friendly comp, but come on a real car guy will call it what it is. Tkae the SRT-8 Jeep. Now that is performance, 13.1 at 103 is what one ran friday night, bone stock. As for looks of the GTO. They are Suspect, that is why I put 18.0 front and 18.5 in rear AZA silver. My car is black with 20 perc tint. I receive complimants all day long on my car and I even have older guys telling thats the way a GTO should sound. I am at Atco everyother week and anticipate being there in the next couple weeks. If anyone wants to see a n/a GTO run 11s be my guess. My tag reads FATMAN
I don't have time to dig into the entire diatribe but for everyone complaining about how ugly the '94 Mustang was they sure sold a sh*tload of them, they out sold all f-bodies combined and did so every year, why because the average buyer didn't think they were ugly, indeed they thought they were rather nice looking. Which might explain why the Mustang was so popular, even during it's off years it sold much better than the GM counterparts.
As for running stock for stock, screw that, I don't understand why people have the need to compare cars that way, run what ya brung, if you win great, if you lose such is life, work on it till you don't. I know the '06 GTO is capable of 12's but having seen a bunch of them in the mid 13's, some on slicks, I'd really love to see a stocker go 12's.
Because thats the way the cars were intended to be from the manufacturer, not to mention stockers out number modified cars by a huge margin.....When comparing a certain car model in general you go by stock performance.......when you compare against a certain individuals car then it's different.......
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I am enjoying this discussion...but the comment on MSRP comarison is a little stange. First when i was car shopping the 06 GT was less he $1K lower than the GTO. I love mustangs and seriously considered the GT, GTO and Charger SRT 8. All are great cars. SRT 8 was about $10K more. Both had good power stock...GTO and SRT 8 had more (at least seat of the pants feel) acceleration. I finally decided on the GTO.. SRT 8 was too expensive for what it was (IMO, not as good as the Mustang GT) and the 06 GT was great but I liked the interior and feel of the GTO better. The last deciding factor was that and the fact only 13,000 or so 2006 GTOs were made vs, what maybe 180,000 mustangs (GTs and all models). Some people would say that was a positive for the GTO and some would say that was a positive for the Mustang. I looked at it as a positive for the GTO. Now honestly, the Mustang also has many advantages also. So it is just a persnal choice. But price difference (MSRP) was not even a consideration because it was so minor. In fact, it is kind of a lame point of comparison of cars (except when purchasing them initially). Just my opinion.
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2006 Torrid Red GTO, M6 Lingenfelter Intake, Magnaflow exhaust, GMM short throw shifter, Predator tune
ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions the TBSS is mentioned in this thread because someone said an LS2 anything would put multiple lengths on any stock Mustang GT.
and your info is a little skewed... if you're gonna post and ridicule, at least follow up the ridicule with accurate information... now I have to take time out of my day and correct you
AWD TBSS = S197
RWD TBSS = New Edge
Confused by this.... the RWD TB SS has run 13.4 stock while the AWD variant has seen a 13.8 (from what i can find).... Anotherwords
RWD TB> AWD TB
you sure those times are right?? I have a Feeling the RWD one isnt stock.... THe AWD Should take the RWD one easily..... Look at the Jeep SRT8
100% positive... The AWD gets off the line faster but AWD has two negative points (as they all do)... extra weight and more drivetrain loss. In the end RWD > AWD on anything but offroad/bad conditions (snow/dirt and ice.) :)
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