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Dude those car will put 235 whp. I consider that VERY powerful especially for a sport compact. Some bolt ons those cars are running low 13s. Dont take this the wrong way but you dont know what your talking about.
SRT-4's are the most overrated piles ever. When they came out people thought it was a gift from god, they suck. I have never even come close to losing to a SRT-4, ever. waste of 20k
Name another car under $21,000 that can match an SRT-4, and that can match the SRT-4's tuning potential - 500+ fwhp on stock internals.
you spend a lot more to get 500hp though. it comes stock with not a lot of hp, but to get to 500hp you need to go through expensive stages. so the car will end up being close to thirty. If i spent that on my car I would romp the SRT-4 any day of the week
It comes stock putting down 230 front wheel hp. A MOPAR stage 3 turbo kit bumps you up to a CLAIMED 310 hp, but much like LS1s the cars were underrated from the factory so I wouldn't put too much money on it actually only making 310 with that kit.
and I agree with Mach I. saleen you spend lots of time instigating arguements about this car, but you never seem to have anything to back up your arguements except with "it's still a neon."
Well, your saleen is STILL just a Mustang under it's over priced saleen badges and body kit.
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!!!! but seriously, why would anyone care to drive a fwd car.....
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iwrxit...yea I run low 13's I really dont have much trouble taking out mach's and such
Don't Machs dyno the same as you stock? But I guess your 373 gears must help launching out from a stop.
let me rephrase that...from a stop its always a drivers race and most of the machs I race from a stop I can out drive them and yes my gears help me out big time even tho they arent that famous 4.10's I still get good punch off the line w/ my 3.73's....but I have to admit from a role the mach ones would prolly pass me do to there 4v and higher redline...I never raced a mach from a role so I cant say for sure but I'd prolly give the win to the mach...
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!!!! but seriously, why would anyone care to drive a fwd car.....
Damn... have any of you saying this pathetic reason for an excuse ever even driven a fwd car?
You don't make any sense, having torque steer in the snow doesn't really apply unless you're mashing the pedal to the floor everytime you try to take off. Which would be retarded.
I'd rather not try to feather my clutch everytime with high torque V8s in the snow and have the ass end spin out into an uncontrollable fish tail every time.
FWD > RWD as far as driving in the snow. Torque steer is NOT a big deal, I can still drive just fine with the car pulling to one side, unlike when you get on it in a rwd car you'd have to let off before you're looking at where you just came from.
daily driving in any weather; AWD > FWD> RWD racing, i'll give it the benefit; AWD > RWD > FWD
Now for the love of God please shut the hell up with that gay excuse "OMG TORQUE STEER! I don't want it!"
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!!!! but seriously, why would anyone care to drive a fwd car.....
Damn... have any of you saying this pathetic reason for an excuse ever even driven a fwd car?
You don't make any sense, having torque steer in the snow doesn't really apply unless you're mashing the pedal to the floor everytime you try to take off. Which would be retarded.
I'd rather not try to feather my clutch everytime with high torque V8s in the snow and have the ass end spin out into an uncontrollable fish tail every time.
FWD > RWD as far as driving in the snow. Torque steer is NOT a big deal, I can still drive just fine with the car pulling to one side, unlike when you get on it in a rwd car you'd have to let off before you're looking at where you just came from.
daily driving in any weather; AWD > FWD> RWD racing, i'll give it the benefit; AWD > RWD > FWD
Now for the love of God please shut the hell up with that gay excuse "OMG TORQUE STEER! I don't want it!"
AWD is crap for high hp racing
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Actually Mrs. Smarty Pants, My car is a 93 and in 97 I was offered $11,000 for it and in 98 some girl wanted to give my $12K.... you should speak about something you know...
BTW do you know what a GT sold for in 93? Do the math, thats a wee bit better then 63.5484884% of its orgianl value
Fwd is a hell of a lot safer thats for sure. Less drive train loss to.
why did you buy RWD then? sounds like you think FWD is better, sell the mach and buy a civic
Dude, seriously. knock it off. He bought RWD because he loves his car, just because he didn't buy a FWD car doesn't mean that it's not cheaper to mass produce, easier to install, and safer driving on ice and in adverse weather conditions.
Let it go.
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Actually Mrs. Smarty Pants, My car is a 93 and in 97 I was offered $11,000 for it and in 98 some girl wanted to give my $12K.... you should speak about something you know...
BTW do you know what a GT sold for in 93? Do the math, thats a wee bit better then 63.5484884% of its orgianl value
You got lucky, someone retarded wanted to buy your car. That doesn't mean it was actually worth that much.
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SRT-4's are the most overrated piles ever. When they came out people thought it was a gift from god, they suck. I have never even come close to losing to a SRT-4, ever. waste of 20k
Name another car under $21,000 that can match an SRT-4, and that can match the SRT-4's tuning potential - 500+ fwhp on stock internals.
you spend a lot more to get 500hp though. it comes stock with not a lot of hp, but to get to 500hp you need to go through expensive stages. so the car will end up being close to thirty. If i spent that on my car I would romp the SRT-4 any day of the week
It comes stock putting down 230 front wheel hp. A MOPAR stage 3 turbo kit bumps you up to a CLAIMED 310 hp, but much like LS1s the cars were underrated from the factory so I wouldn't put too much money on it actually only making 310 with that kit.
and I agree with Mach I. saleen you spend lots of time instigating arguements about this car, but you never seem to have anything to back up your arguements except with "it's still a neon."
Well, your saleen is STILL just a Mustang under it's over priced saleen badges and body kit.
f*ck you, I didn't even say "it's still a neon" go back and read it, that wasn't me. In my car you forget about the suspension kit, reflashed ECU, gears, pullies, TB that my car came with. I have never loss to a stock or mildly modded GT, or an SRT-4 with a stage 2 kit, whatever the **** that means. just chill out. They are not gods gift to sport compacts, they were over hyped. By the way I bought my car wrecked so it wasn't overpriced at all, try $6750 two years ago. I wasn't instigating an argument, just speaking what I thought. wtf is with you lately, you seem to hate everyone, and feel everyone is against you and trying to start sh!t with you. chill. I do have info to back it up! I have raced several different SRT-4's and they aren't fast!!! and if you hate mustangs so much, why are you here? see bold above.
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i guess they should have told audi that when the quattro got banned from all forms of road racing. and i guess skylines suck too, right?
stop whining about torque steer. modded awd's get torque steer. thats what happens when you put down power.
again, it wasn't me whining about torque steer!!!!! read the f.ucking posts!!!! I could care less about torque steer. All I'm saying is if AWD is better than RWD in EVERY scenario, why are there no 6sec AWD cars?
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SRT-4's are the most overrated piles ever. When they came out people thought it was a gift from god, they suck. I have never even come close to losing to a SRT-4, ever. waste of 20k
Name another car under $21,000 that can match an SRT-4, and that can match the SRT-4's tuning potential - 500+ fwhp on stock internals.
you spend a lot more to get 500hp though. it comes stock with not a lot of hp, but to get to 500hp you need to go through expensive stages. so the car will end up being close to thirty. If i spent that on my car I would romp the SRT-4 any day of the week
It comes stock putting down 230 front wheel hp. A MOPAR stage 3 turbo kit bumps you up to a CLAIMED 310 hp, but much like LS1s the cars were underrated from the factory so I wouldn't put too much money on it actually only making 310 with that kit.
and I agree with Mach I. saleen you spend lots of time instigating arguements about this car, but you never seem to have anything to back up your arguements except with "it's still a neon."
Well, your saleen is STILL just a Mustang under it's over priced saleen badges and body kit.
f*ck you, I didn't even say "it's still a neon" go back and read it, that wasn't me. In my car you forget about the suspension kit, reflashed ECU, gears, pullies, TB that my car came with. I have never loss to a stock or mildly modded GT, or an SRT-4 with a stage 2 kit, whatever the **** that means. just chill out. They are not gods gift to sport compacts, they were over hyped. By the way I bought my car wrecked so it wasn't overpriced at all, try $6750 two years ago. I wasn't instigating an argument, just speaking what I thought. wtf is with you lately, you seem to hate everyone, and feel everyone is against you and trying to start sh!t with you. chill. I do have info to back it up! I have raced several different SRT-4's and they aren't fast!!! and if you hate mustangs so much, why are you here? see bold above.
bahahahahahahahahhaha I pissed saleen off lmao
I never said I hated mustangs, and I think I've been over why I'm here a million times.
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ORIGINAL: 2001_SaleenS281_08 again, it wasn't me whining about torque steer!!!!! read the f.ucking posts!!!! I could care less about torque steer. All I'm saying is if AWD is better than RWD in EVERY scenario, why are there no 6sec AWD cars?
i wasnt aiming at you, just the population in general. these are the people that still believe in turbo lag.
now, my preposition...does pro stock allow AWD cars? second, 6 second timeslips are coming. just 5 years ago imports couldnt hit 10's, now street cars have done it. hks has the fastest awd in the world with a 7.671@181.98mph. when cars get that fast there is a tradeoff. most teams prefer the lighter car over the increades drivetrain. not to mention, when you start getting into cars like that, you have to pay for 2 of everything. it's just goor business sense to build a RWD drag car.
RollinThunder...tell me about your Bassani optimum length headers....What kind of numbers could i expect if i got them....are they worth the extra $$ over other shorties? how though are they to install (like LT's or more like shorties)? LT's would run me $350 to install from my guy, i know regular shorties would be less...Thanks
guys seriously y is it that whenever someone post's anything about the srt4 they always end up getting bashed along w/ other compact cars...seriously it gets annoying and its been argued to death!
have you guys ever been to the dodge website. they have a neon soundclip that doesnt sound like a 4-banger. yet, everytime in person since my neighbor has one it sounds like one. but anyway, they are pretty quick for a 20k car. and i've seen some pretty quick ones some at the strip.
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and i guess skylines suck too, right? 
