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S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 8:26:32 AM  1 votes
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Hi, What's the S197 exactly mean? I know it's for 05+ but is it just GT's? And what is it? Order code, I don't see it on my window sticker.   Thanks

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 8:38:50 AM   
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Hi, What's the S197 exactly mean? I know it's for 05+ but is it just GT's? And what is it? Order code, I don't see it on my window sticker.   Thanks


S197 is the 05+ body style, V6 or GT, any color, any combo....

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 10:24:08 AM   
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It is the platform designation, kinda like the MN12 was the Thunderbird/Cougar platform. If Mercury were to bring back the Cougar, like the rumors were a few years ago, on a Mustang platform, it too would be considered an S197

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 1:52:29 PM   
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Is there a naming convention?  Does "S" stand for a city?  Does 197 equate to some dimension?  Just wondering.

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 3:01:10 PM   
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My bro is an engineer for one of their subsidiaries..and he said that he's not sure where the letters come from, but  the numbers come from whichever design version they decide will be the final that goes into production

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 4:39:28 PM   
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Is it the frame or the body style? I thought it was the body style... cause didnt the sn95s use the same frame as the foxes?

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 5:52:33 PM   
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My bro is an engineer for one of their subsidiaries..and he said that he's not sure where the letters come from, but  the numbers come from whichever design version they decide will be the final that goes into production



As an engineer myself, that'd be my guess too. Normally every idea gets assigned a number and every revision gets another number. Where these numbers come from, probably the only one who could tell you for sure is the engineer who originally started the number system for Ford, everyone else was just following suit. I'm not sure on the frame between fox and SN95, but a platform is basically the frame, powertrain mounts, basic suspension, etc

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/11/2007 6:00:50 PM   
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^ Right, the same frame etc... and I thought that before the 2005s came out, the frame hadnt been changed in like.. 20 something years right?

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 12:37:58 AM   
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Is there a naming convention?  Does "S" stand for a city?  Does 197 equate to some dimension?  Just wondering.

Its an internal (FoMoCo) code name - for instance, if we start with the '94-'04 Mustang aka "SN95", the code breaks down like this:

S = Specialty (market group/segment that the Mustang is in)
N = North America (location of project design engineers)
95 = Project Number


"Fox" = '78-'93 ('79-'93 Mustang)
"SN95" = '94-'04
"S197" = '05-?


SN95 - aka  "Fox 4" (4 = 1994)
S197 - aka  "DEW Lite" ("DEW98" is the code name for the Lincoln LS/Thunderbird chassis, of which the '05+ Mustang was originally supposed to built upon (in unmodified form, but it is now a modified DEW98 chassis and as such got a new code name)



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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 5:15:44 AM   
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Dang...can't say we don't learn something new around here.....

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 9:17:26 AM   
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Well put Redfire...  I was too lazy to ask my bro, not that he would give me an accurate answer anyways...  i remember he was working on DN101, which i think was a taurus... what's the D stand for?

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 11:20:13 AM   
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I had my front tire off the other day and it said S197 on my calipers.  05 V6

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 11:48:31 AM   
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Thanks RedFire. 

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 1:07:54 PM   
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Thanks, RedFire.

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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 3:13:10 PM   
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RE: S197 Designation? - 4/12/2007 10:54:24 PM   
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RE: S197 Designation? - 6/1/2007 11:08:37 AM   
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RE: S197 Designation? - 6/1/2007 11:37:35 AM   
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S197 is a "codename" given by FORD. the chassis is actually a D2C.... "D" class 2 door coupe. The exterior was done by Sid Ramnarace, who had a background in designing kitchen utensils and plates.

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RE: S197 Designation? - 6/1/2007 1:23:15 PM   
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^ Right, the same frame etc... and I thought that before the 2005s came out, the frame hadnt been changed in like.. 20 something years right?


Well technically, modern uni-body cars don't have frames.  What they do have are common attach points, so if the attach points for various components like engines, axles and suspensions are all geometrically identical, no matter what the body or "frame" looks like, its the same S197 platform.

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RE: S197 Designation? - 6/1/2007 1:47:03 PM   
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whats the engine code?

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