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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 6:30:01 PM   
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Yeah.. I know I said that. I meant to say simple stuff like pullies, gears, exhaust, timing bumped to 14*, K&N filter.....actually a TB and mass air change isn't needed at that point yet.
I don't why I said TB and MAF changes..



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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 6:31:28 PM   
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nothings impossible... in my opinion though 13's in a fox 5.0 just isn't gonna happen for 99% of folks with the usual bolt-ons.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:02:51 PM   
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werd. we'll call it at that. cause most people have trouble cracking into 14's stock that ive seen

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:28:04 PM   
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i'm going to get in this,but i have to..........without good tires your car is nothing at the track.
i was spinning in third with street tires.i know my car isn't all that,but street tires hurt me really bad.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:29:46 PM   
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street tires hurt all... with street tires - at my track - I was cutting 2.1 60's... with Nitto's Im cutting 1.7 60's... .4 difference = about .8 lower 1/4 time

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:30:24 PM   
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werd. we'll call it at that. cause most people have trouble cracking into 14's stock that ive seen


Ok..fair enough. Those people with stock 5.0's that can't crack 14's can't drive.
Would you agree then that the people that CAN hit 14's in stock mustangs would be able to run 13's with bolt on stuff?


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:32:20 PM   
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no - not with "simple" bolt-ons... were talkin simple stuff and diminishing returns. With sticky tires... yes I beleive its possible.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:42:57 PM   
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with many bolt ons, 13's are doable, but that also depends on what you call a bolt on. at this point its all in how you're defining simple so i say we just lock this bitch up cause its getting nowhere.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:46:15 PM   
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I'm talkin simple stuff too....ok, ok...I'll add sticky tires but not necessarily slicks though. I'll say drag radials.
When I say street tires, that doesn't mean it has to be the factory Goodyears. It could be a set of aftermarket wheels and tires.
Do we have a deal now?


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:52:16 PM   
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Here is what I call simple:

Exhaust
gears(because a complete rear can be bought with gears already installed)
pullies
K&N filter
timing adjusted to 14*

With good tires, good driver and track conditions...13's should be no problem


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 7:59:55 PM   
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lol.. swapping out a rear isn't a "simple" bolt-on

and I see 45 - 50 hp there - its gonna take more than that to drop a full second of the e.t.

add BFG's or some other "sticky" drag radial and I'd say you have a shot at it.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 8:20:56 PM   
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swapping a rearend out isn't hard....I did one about two weeks ago in a dirt floor garage and jackstands. I did it in a weekend.

So...a 87-93 225hp mustang with an extra 50hp "could" run a 13.87@97mph....so says my handy calculator

If you start with a 99-04 GT with 260 factory hp then an extra 50 hp would give you 310hp which "could" and should get you to 13.33@101mph.....at that point, I agree, you will need sticky tires with that much hp

Anyhow, what year mustangs are we talking about? The 87-93's or the 99-up mustangs?
It's possible with all of them but much easier with the '99-up cars


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 8:23:14 PM   
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I thought we were talkin about 5.0's

And a 13 second pass at only 97mph WILL HAVE to have sticky tires. It would require a 1.9 60' or so

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 8:27:34 PM   
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like i said, tires, tires, tires.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 11:34:09 PM   
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quote:

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roundy is all suspension and slicks....lol


NOT FOR LONG!!!!!!!

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/29/2004 2:53:11 PM   
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Don't be giving away my secrets now 90LX50!LOL
Well I guess it's time for me to weigh in on this discussion, ne argument! OK, here goes the truth!

1988 GT hatch with AOD tranny.
I ran my first 13, a 13.981 @ 100.30 mph in June '99 with the following bolt-ons and things removed to get the weight down.
underdrive pulleys, removed air silencer, installed K&N air filter, 26x9 Hooiser slicks on stock wheels, Hypertech chip, MAC equal length shorty headers with 2.5" catback exhaust with Dynomax mufflers, 3.73 rear gears with Auburn posi, subframe connectors, Centerline AutoDrag front wheels and skinny tires, electric fan, homemade ram air and removed rear seats, spare tire and jack, front sway bar, AC compressor and hoses. Car weighed 3,240 lbs with me in the seat and the air in June at VMP ain't all that great either but I didn't have it recorded for this day. That run was the 198th pass the car had made at the strip FYI.
And it was done with a bone stock engine and tranny with over 100,000 miles on them too!
the tranny and rear end have since been replaced and upgraded and there are big plans in the works for the engine too!
Later that same month I won the Quick Ford bracket at the first Fun Ford Weekend at VMP and took home $500 which just did pay for the new front wheels and tires.

in March of 2000 I averaged 13.915 @ 100.45 mph for 6 passes made in 50 degree temps with the same basic car.

what dead weight you can remove is just as important as what you can bolt-on IMO.

that's not too shabby IMO for a car with over 100,000 miles on it with some true bolt-ons and a great driver!


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/29/2004 4:03:05 PM   
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1988 GT hatch with AOD tranny.
I ran my first 13, a 13.981 @ 100.30 mph in June '99 with the following bolt-ons and things removed to get the weight down.
underdrive pulleys, removed air silencer, installed K&N air filter, 26x9 Hooiser slicks on stock wheels


I have to chime in one last time to make sure nobody overlooks this... 26x9 slicks are no joke and the only reason why he broke 13's on a diet and whatever other bolt-ons he listed.



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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/29/2004 4:17:51 PM   
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Do you really need slicks on an auto?

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/29/2004 4:20:14 PM   
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LOL...that's funny


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/29/2004 5:15:15 PM   
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If he has a transbrake especially.

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