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13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:11:18 PM   
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Ok...I just recently read a post on here saying a 5.0 mustang can't break 13's with simple bolt ons without suspension mods and slicks. That just blew my mind!!
I guess a lot of people on here don't get to the strip very often.
So, anyhow, can some of you guys that know what you are talking about, like myself, clear this up?
I'm sure ROUNDMAN can tell you different.


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:13:03 PM   
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roundy is all suspension and slicks....lol

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:15:44 PM   
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roundy is all suspension and slicks....lol


I'm sure he has enough experience & knowledge that 13's are possible with bolt-ons and no suspension & slicks


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:20:20 PM   
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quote:

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roundy is all suspension and slicks....lol



PWNT!

Noob is trying to teach all the oldies here alittle something eh... Sorry, but it's going to take more than headers & a x-pipe and CAI, TB & mufflers to break a Fox into 13's without slicks or suspension mods.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:23:07 PM   
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btw i believe roundy has some what you would call bolt ons and runs 13's with badass suspension and slicks, so without them he would be significantly slower, so i really think that you're just arguing to argue here.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:40:55 PM   
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quote:

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roundy is all suspension and slicks....lol



PWNT!

Noob is trying to teach all the oldies here alittle something eh... Sorry, but it's going to take more than headers & a x-pipe and CAI, TB & mufflers to break a Fox into 13's without slicks or suspension mods.

Oh...so now you have to have a high post count to know anything
You guys obviously don't belong to any other message boards or read any mustang mags to cross reference your false claims.
I also have a bone stock 88GT that I took the track once and ran a 14.8 at 94mph. You mean to tell me I couldn't hit 13's with gears, exhaust and pullies...and if not then I'm sure an LX could


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:41:07 PM   
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To some people, nitrous is a bolt on, so it really depends on your definition of the word. Im sure you COULD get the Foxbody into the 13s with bolt ons, but if you want consistent 13 sec ETs, then i would go ahead and work on the suspension anyways.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:45:51 PM   
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No..I don't mean nitrous either. I'm talking N/A engines
There is no reason why a 5.0 GT or LX can't run 13's with gears, exhaust, pullies and timing bumped up to at least 14* without slicks



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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 4:58:57 PM   
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K, I already predicted one thread on these boards would turn into a 7 page debate-athon and I was right, so I'm going to make my wager now and say this will be a 7 page thread too.

A LX on a diet with those mods & slicks/radials can break 13's. Without stick tires and a hard launch, you aren't going to see 13's. You simply will not pick up all the MPH you need to get into the 13's without great tires with those bolt-ons.

/End of posting in this thread, observer mode now.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:03:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dan02GT

K, I already predicted one thread on these boards would turn into a 7 page debate-athon and I was right, so I'm going to make my wager now and say this will be a 7 page thread too.

A LX on a diet with those mods & slicks/radials can break 13's. Without stick tires and a hard launch, you aren't going to see 13's. You simply will not pick up all the MPH you need to get into the 13's without great tires with those bolt-ons.

/End of posting in this thread, observer mode now.


Really.... does anyone need to say more? Period. Dot. End of Sentence.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:04:54 PM   
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Doesn't that just piss you off??

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:07:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dan02GT

K, I already predicted one thread on these boards would turn into a 7 page debate-athon and I was right, so I'm going to make my wager now and say this will be a 7 page thread too.

A LX on a diet with those mods & slicks/radials can break 13's. Without stick tires and a hard launch, you aren't going to see 13's. You simply will not pick up all the MPH you need to get into the 13's without great tires with those bolt-ons.

/End of posting in this thread, observer mode now.


Really.... does anyone need to say more? Period. Dot. End of Sentence.


Actually, yes, they need to say more.
No, you might not get there with wal-mart special tires but a GOOD set of rubber can get you there or street slicks even.
This thread will be long locked before it hits 7 pages.



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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:18:16 PM   
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thats what he was just sayin

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:50:07 PM   
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Welp, I can drive much better now than I was before.
And since then I added a few things.
But my LAST N/A run without Slicks(normal street tires, not drag radials)
I ran a 13.9@101.

I can now hit a 104 with STOCK as STOCK can be heads and that's enough for a nice 13 second run...


And if you really want, I can find the slip of my last N/A non-slick run and post it if need be.


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:51:35 PM   
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OB, you've got alot more than just the usual bolt-ons though

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:54:18 PM   
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Like Wha?


Engine:

  • Ford B303 Cam: <--------OK not a bolt on...
    . Duration'': 224°/224° @ .050''
    . Lift: .480''/.480''
  • Steeda Aluminum Underdrive Pulleys <-----Bolt on
  • Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake(1500-6500) <---May be considered one...
  • 1" Phenolic Spacer <------Bolt On?
  • 24# Injectors <----Doesnt really even matter...
  • N.O.S. 75 Dry Shot <---Not counting it
  • Pro-M Bullet 75mm MAF for 24# Injectors <-----Bolt On
  • Accufab 70mm TB <--------Bolt On
  • Edelbrock 70mm EGR <------Bolt On
  • Chrome Breather Valve <----dunno why this is even on the list... Guess it just looks neat? (supposedly relieves crankcase pressure)
  • BBK Fenderwell CAI <-----Bolt On
  • BBK 29-74psi Aluminum Fuel Pressure Regulator <----another fuel thing that doesnt really matter
  • AC Delete Kit <------Bolt OFF?
  • Smog Removed <----Bolt OFF?
  • Griffon 2 Row Aluminum Radiator <----shouldnt matter much... may be lighter?


Electrical: <---Not sure about any of these...

  • MSD Pro-Billet Distributor
  • MSD 6AL Ignition w/ Rev Limiter
  • MSD Blaster 3 Coil
  • MSD 8.5mm Wires
  • BBK 255LPH Fuel Pump
  • Electric Fan <------Bolt On?
  • N.O.S. Purge Valve
  • Flaming River Battery Shut-off Switch
  • Superchips Custom Tuning Flip Chip


Drivetrain:

  • 4.10 Gears <-----Everyone does gears so BOLT ON
  • Mcleodloud Scatterproof Bellhousing <----weighing me down a fartload
  • Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch kit(T.O. bearing, Clutch, Pressure plate, Fork) <----doesnt really matter, leaving line on normal street tires
  • FMS SFI Approved Flywheel <-------same thing as stock basically
  • Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw Shifter <------Bolt on
  • Competition Engineering Adjustable Pinion Snubber <-------Bolt On


Suspension:

  • Eibach Pro-kit Springs - Lowered 1.5" <-----makes it worse :(
  • Steeda True-Full Length Sub-Frame Connectors <-------hmm?
  • Battery Relocated in Back <------ Hmm?
  • Powerslot Rotors w/ Hawk Performance Pads <---...
  • BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD Tires <-----Moine Street Tires!


Exhaust:

  • BBK 1 3/4" Ceramic Coated Long Tube Headers <-----Bolt On
  • BBK 2.5" Off Road Shorty X Pipe <------Bolt On
  • Magnaflow Magnapacks Catback <-------Bolt On


< Message edited by Obsol3te -- 11/28/2004 6:01:35 PM >


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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 5:59:30 PM   
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YEAH...............IT'S ON NOW!!

Now this will be a 7 pager.......LOL




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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 6:13:47 PM   
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i may not be as "experienced" as some of you, but i know what ive seen and ive seen stock 5.0s run 14.5, so running 13's are not at all hard to hit.., though, ive never seen a whole lot do it because, 5.0's are usually stock, or heavily modded. but i would imagine simple bolt ons would make u hit 13s if u can drive, remover silencer and put in k&n, 4:10 gears, headers h pipe mufflers, some good DRs and you should hit a high 13, just make sure ur not scared to powershift, i know i love it :)

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 6:15:39 PM   
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im not gonna say anything except ob's car is pushing the boundaries of a bolt on car. you were saying like tb mass air gears and not a whole lot else.

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RE: 13's with simple bolt ons..some say no and I say yeah - 11/28/2004 6:27:39 PM   
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OB-1-kinobe...

the question was...
quote:

ORIGINAL: import slayer
break 13's with simple bolt ons


so where do we draw the line at "simple"... to me, simple is ... well simple stuff folks do in their driveway like exhaust, CAI, pulleys...

not CAMS, LONGTUBES... + blah blah blah

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