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Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 11:46:43 AM   
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Ok this is a question for everyone out there that reads this. For a 2003 Cobra, what is the better aftermarket supercharger to go with. One from Whipple or Kenne Bell... They both seem to say that theirs is the best but if anyone out there has had either or maybe both what was the better of the two. If i spend that kind of money i want to make sure its for the best one available.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 4:55:58 PM   
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I guess I'm biased on this, but I'm gonna go with the Whipple over KB, especially since KB went to the 2.6 and 2.8.  Alot of guys have said that unless your running over 20lbs of boost, you kinda wasting your money on the KB's.  Not that the KB's aren't as good, but if you run them both at for example 17lbs, they will both be very similiar in numbers.  Why not get the Whipple since its cheaper and just as good.  Go KB if you want monster boost.  Of course, now since Whipple has the 3.4L out for sale, you can go big boost on it now too.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 7:15:50 PM   
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Procharger FTW.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 7:41:43 PM   
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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 7:59:18 PM   
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Whipple is cheaper, KB will make slightly higher numbers, cant go wrong either way. Im happy with my whipple, no problems at all. You hear alot of KB's boost actuator breaking, leaking oil and what not.

If you going to spend 5k on a procharger might as well just go turbo.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 9:04:33 PM   
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Procharger is the most efficient though, and performs the best. IMO

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 9:49:38 PM   
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Either way your going to put out good numbers... and italia10588 ur freggin crazzy there is no way that a procharger, or a paxton or a vortech will ever come close to a twin screw style supercharger.  The procharger is like 50hp down from a KB at 17 psi. at least on 03-04 cobras.  Their just not as efficient.  My buddy with an 04 has a procharger and only put down 670hp at 24 lbs of boost.  Also the torque curve is way way horrible the boost doesn't come alive till like 5k rpm.  And last the kit is a few g more... Thats it...


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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/2/2007 10:05:28 PM   
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I bought a Saleen(big mistake)  I wanted the KB.But didn't know any better.
I would own the KB anyday.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 11:03:14 AM   
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hmm.. maybe its different on the sn-95 cobras. Theres a guy on here with a procharged cobra, I think I remember seeing him having pretty sick numbers, but hes got a sn-95 like mine.

I've read that the twin screw design has its own set of issues in comparasion to the centrifugal design also.

Maybe this isnt the case?



all in all I prefer turbos anyway.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 12:31:45 PM   
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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 4:34:23 PM   
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tt ftw

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 6:15:29 PM   
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I looked at this same question about two months ago. From everything I could dig up, both are fairly close in numbers. Each have pros and cons, so it's best to fit what you are going for. I need high psi, so I chose to go with the KB unit for my upgrade.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 8:56:23 PM   
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tt is SO useless unless your doing autocross. I have a huge post about why it is, if you want to see it I'll link you to it.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 9:33:28 PM   
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Link us. I'd be interested to see why you say that. I would have thought it depended on turbo size/lag time when it came to determining application compatibility. And for Auto X, you'd want the low end tq that a positive displacement blower makes....which is why I went with one over a turbo set up.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 9:45:43 PM   
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but what are the really good turbo kits? I have seen some monster turbo termies, and it's what i plan on doing to mind.
I say turbo FTW!!

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/3/2007 11:27:52 PM   
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garret t-4 blowzilla is a great turbo for the cobra.


as for the link.. ill just quote it.. this is from the topic "Turbo 5.0"


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The biggest misconception with turbos is that more=better. Which is NOT true. People say "twin turbo this, twin turbo that" but twin turbos are not the "all-powerful gods" of forced induction.

Certain applications pertain to certain things you want to do. A single turbo can spool out just as much power as a twin turbo setup. TT's are great for autocross, but useless for the quartermile and every day streetracing. (unless you drive a supra which would give me a little envy haha)

You can make 800whp+ with a good single turbo, WITHOUT much lag. Which is another misconception..

If your bolting a huge single turbo onto a V4 then yeah, your going to have some turbo lag because the V4 does NOT have enough torque to fly through rpms. but on a V8? You'll find a turbo spools up immensly faster because seriously.. how long do we stay in the 1-3k rpm range? .. 2 seconds at max.

Everyone seems to think turbo=lag, but they dont do the research on it.

I'm not saying a turbo is BETTER than a s/c. Its all preference really. I just like to clear the air before people are like "omg turbo lag! why bother!" and whatever else.


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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/4/2007 1:15:41 AM   
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Im going to say this on the turbo topic... Turbo is the most efficient power adder that you can have, Thats just it. Also the tubo kits are a bit laggy and they don't make as much TQ down low as the twin screws...

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/4/2007 1:20:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: italia10588

tt is SO useless unless your doing autocross. I have a huge post about why it is, if you want to see it I'll link you to it.


You dont know what your talking about. I tihnk you just post in every thread to get post counts your posts dont even make sense half the time.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/4/2007 3:35:02 AM   
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read above and dont be an asshole. I know exactly what I'm talking about, I just did a huge paper on the subject, so dont give me your ****.

And why would I just want to make my post count higher? Please I have better things to do, give me a break. Is it suddenly a crime to answer someones question for them and try to help them out? My posts make alot more sense than some of other ones I've seen, but because I dont idolize the "popular" mods, and I bring to light other sides of the spectrum without my head up my ass that means I dont know what I'm talking about.. gee thats too damn bad.

Theres plenty of other people who post just as much as me, but ohhhhh I touch on a sensitive subject here and I'm suddenly the target of someones assanine ignorance.

Please spare me and cut the horseshit.

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RE: Whipple V.S. Kenne Bell - 4/4/2007 12:28:56 PM   
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this is a good post.  well than i say that a huge turbo ftw
quote:

ORIGINAL: italia10588

garret t-4 blowzilla is a great turbo for the cobra.


as for the link.. ill just quote it.. this is from the topic "Turbo 5.0"


quote:

The biggest misconception with turbos is that more=better. Which is NOT true. People say "twin turbo this, twin turbo that" but twin turbos are not the "all-powerful gods" of forced induction.

Certain applications pertain to certain things you want to do. A single turbo can spool out just as much power as a twin turbo setup. TT's are great for autocross, but useless for the quartermile and every day streetracing. (unless you drive a supra which would give me a little envy haha)

You can make 800whp+ with a good single turbo, WITHOUT much lag. Which is another misconception..

If your bolting a huge single turbo onto a V4 then yeah, your going to have some turbo lag because the V4 does NOT have enough torque to fly through rpms. but on a V8? You'll find a turbo spools up immensly faster because seriously.. how long do we stay in the 1-3k rpm range? .. 2 seconds at max.

Everyone seems to think turbo=lag, but they dont do the research on it.

I'm not saying a turbo is BETTER than a s/c. Its all preference really. I just like to clear the air before people are like "omg turbo lag! why bother!" and whatever else.



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