I read on the mopar forums that tremclad=mineral spirits and rustoleum=acetone. But i just ran outta acetone so i guess i'ma go buy some mineral spirits. Its gloss black rustoleum enamel crap . I just did another coat with heavy acetone (which is why i'm out now lol) and it didnt turn out like expected. I got a couple noticible lines and its not really "self leveling" at all.
This picture shows the worst part at the worst angle to show all its flaws lol. Its drying now in the sun which is really hot and i think it may help it level out. http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/970/hoodbi1.jpg
And as for wetsanding, does it always come out such a dull flat color after you wetsand it? Cuz my black looks nasty dull afterwords and its hard to beleive that a polishing compound and wax could make it shine.
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as you get into a 2000 grit sand paper it becomes less dull but the best shine that you will get is out polishing it. I think that the can says to thin with acetone but like i said, i think that it causes it to dry faster. Also leaving it in the sun makes it dry faster too. The thing with self leveling is that while the paint is still a liquid it has time to just lay flat. If it drys fast then it will dry not flat
The original poster over in the Mopar forums was using Tremclad like myself. If you google this method you will find that acetone causes the paint to set (flash over) too fast. Try the pure mineral spirits, and not some paint thinners that say they have mineral spirits in them.
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im using professional oil based rust-oleum with mineral spirits. it levels great. im about 50-50 on the mixture. maybe 60-40 toward the paint side. the fender is looking good so i went ahead and put a coat on the hood. this is after the 6th coat. have not color sanded since the 4th coat. the fender was black.
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I just put a new coat on with mineral spirits, it felt alot better this time. I just hope it sets flat! It was a good consitstancy, i got alot of bubbles but they dissapeared very fast.
I'll get some pix soon, how long does it take till u can wetsand a coat of paint?
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I think this must have made it to every car forum out there. I first linked to it off of a Nissan forum, but have been looking at doing my son's F150 as a test before starting on the 'stang.
If you read the whole forum (no small task, as the original is 40 + pages, and the continuation is 60 more) you will see that most people have graduated to a marine paint called "Brightside", instead of the rustoleum. It is more expensive (like $30/qt) but goes on with much higher gloss and covers in about 4-5 coats. Process is basically the same. It is a polyurethane. The pics posted there are awesome. Check out the McLaren.
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I think this must have made it to every car forum out there. I first linked to it off of a Nissan forum, but have been looking at doing my son's F150 as a test before starting on the 'stang.
If you read the whole forum (no small task, as the original is 40 + pages, and the continuation is 60 more) you will see that most people have graduated to a marine paint called "Brightside", instead of the rustoleum. It is more expensive (like $30/qt) but goes on with much higher gloss and covers in about 4-5 coats. Process is basically the same. It is a polyurethane. The pics posted there are awesome. Check out the McLaren.
At $120 a gallon, I think I would be using car paint. At this price a person could get activated enamal, and nearly get activated urathane. With a slow reducer, This could be brushed on if someone wanted to do it this way. The finish would be more durable than any uncatylized paint, the fruits of labor would last longer. I have considered doing a "brush, sand, and polish paint job before, but I just don't have that kind of patience.
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wait until the paint hardens a bit before you wet sand. i cant tell you how long because well its 90 degrees here today and i can do two coats and wetsand each day
The Brightside is not sold at Home Depot, so you must be talking about rustoleum. I didn't price the rustoleum gallons, but the regular quarts are only like $7-8 each. the brightside has to be purchased at a marine supply store. The original post in the mopar forum was about trying to get a good paint job for about $50. Of course, that is material cost and not labor cost, so I assume those folks have more time than money ( as I do..). The rest of the post involved other folks trying other possibilities, testing and posting results. I am not a paint expert by any means, but I think if someone like JMD wanted to test using the automotive paint as described and then post pics of the results, maybe that would be even better. Sounds good to me. I just know that I have seen pics of the actual results using the rustoleum/brightside, and some of them are spectacular. There is an Aussie that did a Miata in gloss black brightside, and it looks like a mirror. Of course, he put a lot of effort into polishing and waxing, as did most people who have gone that route.
It's just one option, and can have great results if you have the time to put in.
I'm painting mine in my basement and I can apply 2 coats per day, but I am finding it is better to wait a full day before sanding. The paint tends to harden up and then doesn't clog the paper.
I also read about the Brightside but do not know where to find a retailer. Ford65Stang are you saying that you purchased this at Home Depot?
After wet sanding the paint is dull but the polishing is what brings back the sheen. It seems that this may be an acquired skill as well. Anyone have any tips for rubing, polishing, and glazing?
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I quit using Rustoleum because I could never get through a can without the nozzle hogging up even making sure it is cleared after each use. That and it just doesn't lay down a very good pattern after the first couple of uses.
I use Seymour. It is a much better paint.
If you are painting anything very big at all, go to Harbor Freight and get their little 15.00 gravity fed paint gun. IT WORKS GREAT!!! It has nice adjustments on it and it lays down a real nice pattern.
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