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"Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 6:40:17 AM   
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I hope Ford sells a lot of 2008 Mustangs, but I don't want a design change or new option that would make me regret getting a 2007 V6 Pony Package instead of waiting on a 2008. So what would "kick" you in the rear if Ford offered it next year on the V-6? T-top, 8.5" rear end, or ?

For me it would be factory dual exhaust on the V6.  

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 7:44:23 AM   
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they need to get rid of drive by wire and add a trunk relese atleast

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 9:02:40 AM   
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a stronger drive train

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 10:05:39 AM   
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TRUNK RELEASE!!

oh, and a stronger rear end

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 10:08:23 AM   
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I will be pissed if they put that new 3.5 liter engine they have in it, the one that produces like 245 hp or something like that... then we will be the slow kids on the block. Also, an 8.5 rear would give me a regret or two.

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 10:22:48 AM   
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friggin trunk release. that is so annoying not having one.

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 11:01:36 AM   
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friggin trunk release. that is so annoying not having one.


Especially when you lock your keys in your trunk. LOL

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 11:29:00 AM   
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i have posted a wire dia. for adding a trunk release in the console before. its pretty simple actually. just need to remove some stuff. to get to the wires. 

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 11:33:34 AM   
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i have posted a wire dia. for adding a trunk release in the console before. its pretty simple actually. just need to remove some stuff. to get to the wires. 


Thanks scrmn. Where is the diagram? I'd like to see it.
Does anyone realise they can use the remote to open their trunk even with the key in the ignition / engine running? Works for me on my 07.

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 11:34:11 AM   
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I doubt that ford will put dual exhaust on the V6 platform simply because, they try to market the GT as the mustang with dual exhaust...if they put dual exhaust on a V6 that might make people happy, but people would buy more V6s and not GTs because of it..in turn ford wont be making as much money by getting people to get the V6...
ford wants to coax people into the GT with the 300hp V8, good ground effects all around, dual exhaust, and good grille and rear spoiler, I mean if I am a car company I would want to market my highest performing version of the car with everything...yes I agree with you that I WOULD like to see dual exhaust on a V6 but for Fords struggling market I doubt they will in the next 5 years even consider it. plus that might take the fun out of modding our cars, even if it is more expenive than normal, but you never know with the logic that ford has, maybe they will put duals on a V6 given their brilliant track record.

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 1:13:14 PM   
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i dont see why they would put the 3.5 in...its too small for a mustang motor imo, in any situation, a stang needs to have large stroke so it sounds good and makes good low end torque.  I think they could easily reach the numbers the 3.5 duratec makes be reworking the 4.0 just a bit.  Look at gash05 on the **** forums....he put down 215rwhp on a mustang dyno (around 230ish rwhp on a dynojet, maybe a bit less, but probably around there or higher depending on how the mustang dyno was calibrated)  in an auto.  That's around 260-70 chp without cam work, just p&p heads and a few bolt ons.  You can't tell me that ford doing some head/cam work, possibly bumping cr just a bit couldnt keep this thing emissions legal and make over 260bhp, it'd be pretty easy for em and would be sssiiiiiick!  They could probably get 260hp and close to 300 ft lbs which is around the numbers the new edge gt's put down.

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 1:37:36 PM   
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i dont see why they would put the 3.5 in...its too small for a mustang motor imo, in any situation, a stang needs to have large stroke so it sounds good and makes good low end torque. 


I've thought the same thing. We don't want our Pony's sounding like ricers. 

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 1:56:50 PM   
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well as far as locking your keys in the trunk just pull down the rear seats.

but it hink the only thing that will really bother me is if they add mroe power. because ford won't put a dual exhaust, and they wont upgrade the rear. i just hope they dont up the hp.

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 2:04:52 PM   
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why do you hope they dont up the power?  If they keep the 4.0 as the motor and up the power, we will be able to use whatever they got the extra power with.  Say they re-design the heads with more aggressive stock cams and just all around better flowing heads, we will be able to buy them super cheap like all the non-pi 4.6 guys buy pi heads for pretty cheap.  We already know there is quite obviously more power to be had out of this motor while still under emission regulations.  The sport-trac makes 14 more ft lbs than we do stock with the same basic motor with slight differences.  Obviously with some tweaking, ford could make more power, and torque.  they could EASILY make the numbers the 3.5 makes out of the 4.0, it would just take a bit of r&d.  The 3.5 wouldn't be the right motor for a mustang imo.  rework the 4.0.  that's what we need.  

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 4:22:52 PM   
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I'm almost positive Ford isn't upping the HP until they do the redesign after the Camaro comes out. But don't quote me on that. I can't remember where I read it. sorry to give half ass facts lol

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 5:18:21 PM   
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If ford is smart they will up the power BEFORE the camaro comes out.  Lots of people love the look of the new camaro.  We need to snag as many new owners as possible before it comes out. Think of it this way.

Guy is looking for a car 3 months before the new camaro comes out.  The new camaro is going to have, say, 280hp.  The competing v6 mustang has 210...he says to himself, well id rather have the extra 70 so i guess i can wait.  now think about it like this-

Same guy sees the new camaro is going to have 280hp, still needs a new car, but the new v6 mustang has just been bumped up to 265hp.  He really wants a car right now, and since the new mustang is so close in performance, he decides not to wait for the camaro, buys the mustang, takes a sale away from chevy and gives it to ford.  If we wait til the camaro comes out, chevy has that 100k mile warranty, and that camaro looks real good.  I think they need to start preparing for it BEFORE it comes out.




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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 5:33:29 PM   
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TRUNK RELEASE!!

oh, and a stronger rear end


7.5s have actually been proven to over 500 HP on the earlier stangs, just not with the tlok (NOT GOING THERE!!!!)

SOHC version of the 4.2 f150 truck motor with 4V heads = pure sex, say hello to the 300 HP mark

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 6:09:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: goldenglory18

TRUNK RELEASE!!

oh, and a stronger rear end


7.5s have actually been proven to over 500 HP on the earlier stangs, just not with the tlok (NOT GOING THERE!!!!)

SOHC version of the 4.2 f150 truck motor with 4V heads = pure sex, say hello to the 300 HP mark


ditto! I actually read a comment from a thread in here stating that 7.5 tlocks are stronger than 8.8 rear ends.

the THUNKing noise is soon to be a problem of the past.
Look out for a TSB on the issue sometime late first or early 2nd quarter.

Oops! I didn't see the title of the thread before I blasted out my 2 cents. Nothing worse about a dissapeared thunking noise ;) or a 7.5" tlok rear end.

< Message edited by wolfey2k -- 3/10/2007 6:15:32 PM >


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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 7:19:22 PM   
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if a guy wants a stang, he will get a stang. if he wants a camaro, he will wait for that no matter how much added horsepower the v6 stang may have. i'm sure like anyone who purchases a new car on their own wants the coolest newest thing out there. that was a huge factor when i bought my stang. when you commit to a new big purchase, you want it to be money well spent that can really impress and the camaro will likely do that no matter what just like the stang did when it was on the roads in late 2004. this is the likely mentality of a consumer. if ford wants its mustang sales to stay strong, they should up the factory warranty then up the power. i believe the warranties play a bigger role than we think cuz they provide great peace of mind for the undecided consumer. i love my stang but hope the camaro does well so that ford raises their bar and keeps on producing a better product so that we always win. what are the engine choices on the new camaro anyways? and what mods does gash05 have on his stang? (i'd like to produce those numbers myself)

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RE: "Worst" possible design change on 2008 V6's? - 3/10/2007 8:28:47 PM   
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well as far as locking your keys in the trunk just pull down the rear seats.


I know, but it's a pain to have to crawl back there to look for them

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