My local shop quoted me a price for $1600 installed out the door for these mods:
-Billetflow or Reichard racing pulley set up
-Mafia
-SCT tuner with custom dyno tune(includes dyno time)
-Cold air kit
-New plugs
IS this worth it?
ponysnake99
02-26-2007, 12:17 AM
im gonna go ahead and say too expensive, but i have two questions and i might help u a little better:
1) have you bought the parts and thats 1600 in labor? or does that include the price of the parts?
and
2) whats a mafia? a MAF sensor? or am i missing something?
jmcc1980
02-26-2007, 12:42 AM
That price includes the parts. The mafia is from diablo sport. Its called a MAF interface adapter. It keeps you from pegging your MAF because of the extra boost.
Blownsvt
02-26-2007, 12:57 AM
i would say thats right in the price range. I did my pullies and intake and stuff on my own and the price break down was something llike this
Pullies, billet flow 2.76 and 4 idelers set up with bracket- 400
jlt cold air intake- 225
sct xcalibrator tuner- 400
dyno tune/dyno time- 150 i got a really good rate on the dyno tune because i k ow the shop owner
total of 1,175 but i didnt get plugs of the mafia thing, paid no labor and got discounted dyno time which is ussually around 100-150 bucks an hour depending on where you go, and it takes about 2-3 hours of dyno time to tune a cobra based on expierience.
i would say if your not up for doing it yourself then go for it.
jmcc1980
02-26-2007, 01:02 AM
Thanks for the input! I feel comfortable doing most of it myself but these guys are awsome with Cobras so I fugure I spend a little more but I know for sure its being done right! I wqant to get them to throw in a steeda triax too!
ponysnake99
02-26-2007, 01:14 AM
actually its not a bad deal at all, i'll explain my reasoning through a break down:
200 for the pulleys
150 for the CAI
450 for the tuner
200 for the MAFia (which is interesting btw)
50 for the spark plugs
250 ish for dyno run (or more) plus tune
225 prorated labor
so my guess plus labor is right in there where it should be, so i would say go for it...when i first saw it i thought it was pure labor and was like, holy crap. Hope that helps some.
jmcc1980
02-26-2007, 01:19 AM
Big help! Thanks a lot! I think Im going to have them do it next week!
spray175
02-26-2007, 03:02 PM
Are you just getting one pulley or the whole idler kit to? What intake?
Its the complete idler set, not just the pulley. Not sure what kind of intake though. I forgot to ask that. I know its not BBK though.
italia18
02-26-2007, 04:28 PM
mehhhhhhhh...
those are bullcrap mods for that price to me. No offense, its just like.. everyone gets a cobra and the first thing they post is "I'm gonna throw on pulies and a CAI and a throttlebody and a tuner and and and.."
And its lame. People buy into the misconception that your car suddenly gets a huge boost of power from these simple mods.
In essence (and alot of people will find this controversial if they havent already) the cobras TB and such are fine stock. The only reason people started making aftermarket TBs and such in the first place and marketing them so heavily was for the japanese tuner crowd who start off, with literally, sh-- stock parts.
Now Im not condeming those who have these mods, hell I have a CAI for my cobra, I'm just saying, IF these are the first mods your doing to your car, spend your money somewhere else. Take that 1600 and beef up your engine. These mods are minimal ones you should do AFTER your major ones are already taken care of.
Personally, if you dont have exhaust and headers, I'd get those.. OR buy some new meanass heads for your engine. Theres alot you can do for $1600 besides installing small hp gain bolt ons.
Its your car, and your preference, so who am I to tell you what to do? I'm merely throwing this out there for people to think about before they go bolt on crazy.
Also all those mods are wickid easy to do yourself if your mechanicially inclined. So if you are, save the money.
Again, please dont take offense, I'm not slamming you, or anyone. Merely provoking thought since I see threads like this alot.
Dan04COBRA
02-26-2007, 04:39 PM
ORIGINAL: italia10588
mehhhhhhhh...
those are bullcrap mods for that price to me. No offense, its just like.. everyone gets a cobra and the first thing they post is "I'm gonna throw on pulies and a CAI and a throttlebody and a tuner and and and.."
And its lame. People buy into the misconception that your car suddenly gets a huge boost of power from these simple mods.
In essence (and alot of people will find this controversial if they havent already) the cobras TB and such are fine stock. The only reason people started making aftermarket TBs and such in the first place and marketing them so heavily was for the japanese tuner crowd who start off, with literally, sh-- stock parts.
Now Im not condeming those who have these mods, hell I have a CAI for my cobra, I'm just saying, IF these are the first mods your doing to your car, spend your money somewhere else. Take that 1600 and beef up your engine. These mods are minimal ones you should do AFTER your major ones are already taken care of.
Personally, if you dont have exhaust and headers, I'd get those.. OR buy some new meanass heads for your engine. Theres alot you can do for $1600 besides installing small hp gain bolt ons.
Its your car, and your preference, so who am I to tell you what to do? I'm merely throwing this out there for people to think about before they go bolt on crazy.
Also all those mods are wickid easy to do yourself if your mechanicially inclined. So if you are, save the money.
Again, please dont take offense, I'm not slamming you, or anyone. Merely provoking thought since I see threads like this alot.
We are talking about an 03/04 Cobra here, not a NA Cobra. Pulleys& a tune will give a great increase in HP.
As for LT's, they aren't exactly needed to make big hp with these motors. It helps, but they aren't worth the bang for your buck considering the other options out there... But from what I can gather you are completely confused about what year Cobra is at hand here.
Next time when you plan on putting so much thought into a post, you should make sure you fully understand what is being talked about. Don't be offended man, just ribbin' ya. [8D]
spray175
02-26-2007, 05:04 PM
Yea i disagree withitalia 100%. Thats a good deal for those mods. And you will add about 80rwhp, it will be noticable difference believe me.
italia18
02-26-2007, 07:48 PM
oops, thought it was NA. My bad. [:@]
all in good jest dan, thanks for pointing that out. For some reason it just didnt click when I read it.
I still think anyone with an NA should pay attention to that post though.
But yeah, changing airflow with any forced induction is always good.
JamesTronix
02-26-2007, 11:11 PM
ORIGINAL: spray175
Yea i disagree withitalia 100%. Thats a good deal for those mods. And you will add about 80rwhp, it will be noticable difference believe me.
You will add 40-50rwhp with those mods.
uofipilot
02-27-2007, 02:37 AM
Just out of curiousity, why is dyno time so damn expensive? Just becausethey can charge you out the ass because its something you cant do yourself?
Matt
Blownsvt
02-27-2007, 01:03 PM
ORIGINAL: JamesTronix
ORIGINAL: spray175
Yea i disagree withitalia 100%. Thats a good deal for those mods. And you will add about 80rwhp, it will be noticable difference believe me.
You will add 40-50rwhp with those mods.
I got from 371 rwhp up to 443 with, a pulley, intake and tune, thats a 72 rwhp increase, how do you figure 40-50?
Blownsvt
02-27-2007, 01:05 PM
ORIGINAL: uofipilot
Just out of curiousity, why is dyno time so damn expensive? Just becausethey can charge you out the ass because its something you cant do yourself?
Matt
thats about right, plus the dynos are so expensive for the shops to buy they charge alot in order to pay them off. I also think that more and more people are doing the actual labor work themselves so this is the one way that they can still make money off of us because we can't do it ourselves.
PWORLDSTANG
02-27-2007, 01:06 PM
I think it's a little bit on the expensive side. You have about 1200 dollars in mods, including dyno time. But dyno time is the variable that could be the cause for it to be on the expensive side.
spray175
02-27-2007, 01:28 PM
You have to think it will be on the dyno for about an hour. Most shops charge 200-250 per hour dyno time plus the labor which is prob $80 an hr.
JamesTronix
02-27-2007, 07:41 PM
You're car is a freak. Typical increase with these mods is 40-50 rwhp.
JamesTronix
02-27-2007, 07:42 PM
Also depends on the size of the pulley. If you do a 2.76 or 2.8 you could pick up 70rwhp
Blownsvt
02-27-2007, 10:13 PM
i got a 2.76, one of my buddies made 452 rwhp on a 2.8 pulley with the same mods that i have now.
JamesTronix
02-27-2007, 11:07 PM
Your exhaust is worth 10rwhp.
spray175
02-27-2007, 11:12 PM
ORIGINAL: JamesTronix
You're car is a freak. Typical increase with these mods is 40-50 rwhp.
A stock car makes between 360-380rwhp. Adding that will get him between 440-460rwhp. Your saying that a car with a pulley intake and tune will only make 420rwhp? I dont think so.
JamesTronix
02-27-2007, 11:19 PM
Like I said, depends on the size of the pulley.
3.1 pulley 40-50 rwhp
2.93 50-60
2.8/2.76 60-70
Blownsvt
02-28-2007, 12:24 AM
ORIGINAL: JamesTronix
Your exhaust is worth 10rwhp.
the 371rwhp dyno was done with the catback on there, then the intake pulley and tune jumped me to 443 rwhp then i added the prochamber and heat exchanger and it got to 447rwhp which is where it sits now.