Soaring , If you could leave this hear for a little while, then delete if you want.
It will make you upset and frustrated. Click on Flying test below.

Flying Test (http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf)

Its rotary wing, that would be Army territory.. USAF has predominantly fixed wing aircraft whereas the Army has only rotary wings.. The one button interface also points to US Army usage, USAF members can use more than one button at a time for control.. :)

Thumpin don't forget about the army sherpas

The USAF gave the Sherpa to the Army, since if you fill it with gas and put all three crew members in, it wont get off the ground.. the ACL is too low.. :) We had them in Germany back in 88-92 to move MICAP around between the bases..

Besides the Sherpa isnt really an airplane, its an overweight ultralight.. :D

Have I mentioned my younger brother is an Army UH60 pilot? I swear he is the smartest man in the Army!

ORIGINAL: THUMPIN455

The USAF gave the Sherpa to the Army, since if you fill it with gas and put all three crew members in, it wont get off the ground.. the ACL is too low.. :) We had them in Germany back in 88-92 to move MICAP around between the bases..

Besides the Sherpa isnt really an airplane, its an overweight ultralight.. :D

Have I mentioned my younger brother is an Army UH60 pilot? I swear he is the smartest man in the Army!



HAAAAAAHAAbwaaHWaaaha
That's funny
Smart+ARMY=wasted brain cells;)

By the way did you ever see the video of the AH64 that hit a tree
Pilot, "think I can make it?" you see two trees in the video, and the apache is trying to fly between them
Gunner, "NOPE"
Pilot, "oh yee of little faith" then boom he hits the trees!

All these helicopters must not really be air force, Must be a miss print



local://upfiles/58274/5E189B7BE7DF4292B836E088AD0A3DC7.jpg

Google is nice sometimes but there are some mistakes. USAF does not own any attack helos, and one of the pics is from the CZECK AF. Also 99% of AF helos belong to the operators. Yes the AF does have helicopters, about as many as the ARMY has fixed winged acft.
Somebody has to teach the ARMY how to fly;)

Cool game ZZ, it is addicting! I don't give a flying flip as to whether it is an Air Force or Army helicopter, it is a video game!!!!;)

ahh I remember this game. Last year in highschool whenever we went to the computer lab for a project EVERYBODY was playing this game. It eventually was blocked but it was addicting!

Kinda the reason I put it hear. It's a game, who cares if it AF or not.

ORIGINAL: ZZmustang

Kinda the reason I put it hear. It's a game, who cares if it AF or not.



True but the way it was worded made it sound like that inter service rivalry we have going.. We have a few USAF people here, and we are always eager to play the USAF vs whoever game.. :)

Nothin personal, the GF loves that game, she plays it for neopets.. lol.

No harm no foul... just as long as we don't bash our friends with the funny little hats (it's just too easy!)

We fly three types currently:

HH-60 Inventory = 64

MH-53 Inventory = 41

UH-1N "Huey" Inventory = 63 (primarly used in AF Space Command)

Not sure if you count the Osprey, it's a tilt rotor aircraft, and it's pretty cool!
http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2004/february/photos/february_i_ids4.jpg

Deebo

Last time I saw an AF huey was a vandenburg

Whats with the little brimless hats anyway? Are they trying to be elite like Paratroopers or perhaps SF? Oh wait the SP's have little black brimless hats too.. nevermind.. :)

Anyone wanna know about Cargo aircraft? Yay trash haulers for the win!

Maybe US pilots should learn that big union jack and orange symbols on the top of APC's mean friendly and not foe!!!! Just a thought

Yea, they use the hueys a lot at VAFB and at the missile bases up North, i.e. Minot, ND, Malmstrom, MT, and F.E. Warren, Wyoming. Sometimes when the weather is bad we hitch a ride out to the missile fields up here.

They're trying to come up with a "joint" replacement, but thats going to take some time.

ORIGINAL: paddy187

Maybe US pilots should learn that big union jack and orange symbols on the top of APC's mean friendly and not foe!!!! Just a thought


Hard to see the jack when you are doing 300mph at 300AGL... but yeah they have been briefed repeatedly... those were some bad days...

ORIGINAL: paddy187

Maybe US pilots should learn that big union jack and orange symbols on the top of APC's mean friendly and not foe!!!! Just a thought


US pilots do the best they can with the information on hand. The "fog of war" and murphy's law takes over sometimes and knowone can help that.

I'm a little late in the thread, but don't forget that the Marines have helos as well, including MX-1 (the POTUS puddle jumper). Wesee it (three of'em, really)quite often in the DC area.

Really you could easily blame it on TACP or FAC.
No wait it's not our fault, Those IFF reflectors look alot like RPGs;)
Stuff happens and we are all expendable, hell our PATRIOT missles even shot down some of our own acft, stupid computers[:@]

grumm just venting, what anoys me the most is that the USAF will not give a full enquirey, we all learn from our mistakes and failure to analysis error result in repeatation. Maybe the pilots should be dismissed and not become a flight trainers and is it any surprise that this was these guys first combat mission?

I was only kidding, yeah they made a mistake, but who wants to air their laundry for others to see? Living with the guilt of it should be pleanty for those guys. Being a good instructor pilot has nothing to do with being a good fighter pilot. Point blank of the matter, they were told that there were no friendlies in the area, and they saw something to shoot. Granted they were probably excited that they got to finally blow some shizzle up, but what happened happened.
Think about Desert Storm, tank killers often fragged our own guys, it happens, sucks but it happens, too bad for those guys.
Hell early on in the GWOT didn't a TACP guy blow up a bunch of canadians on accident? If I'm not mistaken he got into trouble.
Now if you ask me, when was the last time the insurgents had tanks and APCs? that would have been my first clue, clear order or not...

ORIGINAL: deebo68

We fly three types currently:

HH-60 Inventory = 64

MH-53 Inventory = 41

UH-1N "Huey" Inventory = 63 (primarly used in AF Space Command)

Not sure if you count the Osprey, it's a tilt rotor aircraft, and it's pretty cool!
http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2004/february/photos/february_i_ids4.jpg
Deebo


You must be talking about only the active duty. The Air Force has more than that. I work on them as a defense contractor. I have exact numbers, but I don't think it is necessary to post it on the internet. I will say that we just finished the disposal plan for the MH-53 and those numbers will be significantly decreased in a few months.

Yes, those are the active duty numbers.

You can google the numbers to get a ballpark, but you're right who needs specifics.

Ah TACP.. a buddy of mine from the first Gulf War was in Airman magazine a couple years back. hes a TACP, and he was in every pic of the article. I was training for the test to see if I could cross train when I messed up my knees, was already to do it when I PCS back from Osan, then stepped wrong one day off the dock at work and that ended that and my USAF career.. 2 years later.

Yes the guys who screw up and hit friendlies dont get off free, but one thing about modern warfare its a highly lethal battlefield and often targets are taken out from beyond visual range. Its unfortunate but mistakes do happen, people are human after all. In reality its simply amazing that there arent a huge amount of friendly fire, WWII was rife with instances of fratricide, they are doing a much better job now but you are correct that it needs to be better.. 100% is a lofty goal though..

Lastly, we do have to be careful about what we post on here... no need to be giving anything away on a car forum.. :)

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/afweapons/l/blaircraft.htm

http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0307/aircraft03.shtml

Some AF aircraft facts if anyone is interested, nothing classified about it.