Ok here it is I might have a race coming up. I have pretty many mods done, I would say around 240HP or so in my car, im not sure on the torque prolly around the same. His eclipse as I know of has rims, and 3inch exhaust. Its a stock turbo to. So who you think would win this one. They are both stick.
I have alot of things done including NOS. ut I didnt count that if I did it would be well over 300HP at the crank. I dont have a blower or anything like that.
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oh yeah he said something that he has a 1st gen motor. What is the HP and torque on those.
oh. the first gen motor was more beefy, and the second gen head has better flow. he has the ultimate dsm setup. the question is "does he have a front mount intercooler? if a DSM guy (not just an owner, but someone who knows them) has a 1st gen swap and a FMIC, they are in the 12's easy. i dont bother those ones...well, now i can.
I no something to that when he put in the 1st gen motor his car ran slow then it did before at the track. Alot of people say its not that fast like high 14s, some say it is fast. I duno what the outcome will be, might be close.
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oh yeah he said something that he has a 1st gen motor. What is the HP and torque on those.
oh. the first gen motor was more beefy, and the second gen head has better flow. he has the ultimate dsm setup. the question is "does he have a front mount intercooler? if a DSM guy (not just an owner, but someone who knows them) has a 1st gen swap and a FMIC, they are in the 12's easy. i dont bother those ones...well, now i can.
I have seen turbo swap first gens with intercoolers and all the works barely pulling on stage 1 SRT-4s. DSMs are a joke unless you have tons of $$ laying around.
It depends if you race from a roll or a dig. GSX+AWD=holeshot, also is his car automatic or 5 speed. i think if its automatic and you run him from a roll you might have a chance if you use your cheater spray. also 1st gen eclipse gsx 190hp. 2nd gen 210. it would help to know what your list of mods
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Eh I raced this dude around here with a first gen DSM. Everyone talked like his car was a modded 4 cyl beast but I tore him a new one from a 15 mph role. It was closer from a dead start but still not that impressive. All i'm running is a mild 302 just shy of 300hp , C4 auto trans , 3:73 gears. I couldn't tell what all he had done to it but ppl must have been blowing it out of proportion. But , then again I have seen ones that are pretty crazy. I got a vid of one pulling pretty good in a Lingenfelter Corvette. He got beat pretty bad in 3rd, but he took the Corvette by several lenghts off the line. They cost $$$$ to make fast , but they can deffinitely be fast when done right. It would be good to know what your mods were since I wouldn't just "guess" my hp was at 240. you may be overestimating your mods and get dog stomped by a 4 banger. If we knew your mods I'm sure some of these guys on here could give you a better idea how the race would turn out.
a stock 1g motor runs a 14b turbo, with 3" and a boost controller there good for about 240 - 260 hp.. may freind has a 1g talon with 16g evo 8 turbo, 3", o2 dump, 550cc injecters, apexi safc.. and he vettes all day long.. i would say depending on from what u say he's got done, it's be close.. but he will eat you off the line everytime
RE: 2000 V6 Stang vs 1996 Eclipse GSX - 11/17/2004 11:00:41 AM
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Ok here it is I might have a race coming up. I have pretty many mods done, I would say around 240HP or so in my car, im not sure on the torque prolly around the same. His eclipse as I know of has rims, and 3inch exhaust. Its a stock turbo to. So who you think would win this one. They are both stick.
haha let me guess you have no real idea how much power you're making and you're just going..
ok i have a cai thats 5 hp, I'm up to 198 now...
uh full catback with no cats thats 15 hp, now I'm up to 213...
Before I go any further insulting you and your horsepower gain guesses... Do you have a dyno sheet?
Ok here it is I might have a race coming up. I have pretty many mods done, I would say around 240HP or so in my car, im not sure on the torque prolly around the same. His eclipse as I know of has rims, and 3inch exhaust. Its a stock turbo to. So who you think would win this one. They are both stick.
with these mods, a guy only put down 260rwhp and 280rwtq: 4.2L Stroker Ported BV Heads w/ 1.95" intake & 1.55 exhaust Ported Custom Upper w/posts removed and enlarged TB Inlet Ported Lower Cam: 207/215 .505/.495 112lca 108cl Heads milled .030" 1.73rr's Mac CAI BBK 70mm TB Mac LT headers Mac Catted H-pipe Magnaflow GT catback w/dynomax mufflers ASP UDP SCT Dynotune MSD plug wires
...that is why it is tough for me to believe a lot of the claimed hp in this forum.
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Eh I raced this dude around here with a first gen DSM. Everyone talked like his car was a modded 4 cyl beast but I tore him a new one from a 15 mph role. It was closer from a dead start but still not that impressive. All i'm running is a mild 302 just shy of 300hp , C4 auto trans , 3:73 gears. I couldn't tell what all he had done to it but ppl must have been blowing it out of proportion. But , then again I have seen ones that are pretty crazy. I got a vid of one pulling pretty good in a Lingenfelter Corvette. He got beat pretty bad in 3rd, but he took the Corvette by several lenghts off the line. They cost $$$$ to make fast , but they can deffinitely be fast when done right. It would be good to know what your mods were since I wouldn't just "guess" my hp was at 240. you may be overestimating your mods and get dog stomped by a 4 banger. If we knew your mods I'm sure some of these guys on here could give you a better idea how the race would turn out.
Yeah, except for in that video the vette owner is competely afraid of his car, and doesnt know how to drive. Have seen that one 100 times. The DSM does a redline RPM launch while the vette feathers it out of the hole. Then the vette dusts the crap outta him and immediatly let off.
That vette owner was straight up scared of his car. Every time he got into it he would quickly let off. And BTW when you come back from 7-10 carlenghts before you get outta third the loser isnt "Pulling pretty hard".
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RE: 2000 V6 Stang vs 1996 Eclipse GSX - 11/25/2004 12:29:01 AM
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Yeah, except for in that video the vette owner is competely afraid of his car, and doesnt know how to drive. Have seen that one 100 times. The DSM does a redline RPM launch while the vette feathers it out of the hole. Then the vette dusts the crap outta him and immediatly let off.
That vette owner was straight up scared of his car. Every time he got into it he would quickly let off. And BTW when you come back from 7-10 carlenghts before you get outta third the loser isnt "Pulling pretty hard".
I'd be scared of driving that thing on the street too. That doesn't mean the guy don't know how to drive. In the full out race he didn't launch it, he held back and then got on it.
Vette mods: Lingenfelter head work, Doug Rippie Motorsports package and 150 shot of nitrous
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