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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/24/2007 3:52:14 PM   
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What a waste of a read...  mine is bigger than yours!

I just want to point out with everyone's expert opinions flying around that no one has bothered to realize that none of the SC discussed are roots types at all, they are twin screw, (Saleen, KB, Whipple) and centrifical (Procharger).  The Rousch blower is a roots.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/24/2007 4:47:46 PM   
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Who needs UFC when you can read stuff like this!

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/24/2007 7:08:12 PM   
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Yeah turbos get their peak hp with alot of rpm's, where most damage to the engine will occur and the engine is working its hardest. So go ahead and spool it up, way up. Poof!!!


Sorry but from now on I will refer to you ass DonkeyWelder.  So... DonkeyWelder lol s/c's produces their peak boost at the end of the revs, because they are spooled by ENGINE REVS, a turbo has a blowoff/wastegate that controls boost pressure since they are already at max boost before 3k rpm.  Man I though by now you would think of your self as a ass already donkey welder.  Your first question on this thread just denotes how much you know about boost.  Going between a roots and a centri.  ROOTS S/C IS THE MOST INEFFECIENT supercharger ever made.  Now that said look I am gonna help you.  If you are really deciding on what to put on your car just get this and you should be killing z06 and gt500's by the buttloads.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUSTANG-TERCEL-TURBONATOR-GAS-SAVER-AIR-FILTER-CARBON_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33551QQihZ015QQitemZ250086416235QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Nissan-Honda-Toyota-Mazda-Electric-Supercharger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33741QQihZ011QQitemZ320084714544QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW




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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/24/2007 7:39:20 PM   
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...Going between a roots and a centri.  ROOTS S/C IS THE MOST INEFFECIENT supercharger ever made...



You do realize that he was refrencing a KB which isn't a roots right?

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 12:34:30 AM   
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...Going between a roots and a centri.  ROOTS S/C IS THE MOST INEFFECIENT supercharger ever made...



You do realize that he was refrencing a KB which isn't a roots right?

I think the point androdz is making is the this self proclaimed supercharger expert doesn’t know the difference between a roots and a TS or that the KB is a TS.
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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 1:24:03 AM   
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Right on Earl ;).

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 7:54:32 AM   
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I havn't seen ANYONE in this thread that has impressed me with any sort of real knowledge.  He isn't the only person who doesn't apear to know the difference.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 9:02:07 AM   
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That makes you Neandrothol, because that's exactly the the limited amount of intellegence you have. Check out the Dyno's and you'll see that a KB is almost linear in the results. I have my choice it's a KB and if it really makes you that jealous, then maybe you should have a lemmonade stand put out and then after you sell enough you could have a KB too!

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 9:06:47 AM   
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You've been buying too many turbonators from Neandrothol man

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 7:39:01 PM   
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That makes you Neandrothol, because that's exactly the the limited amount of intellegence you have. Check out the Dyno's and you'll see that a KB is almost linear in the results. I have my choice it's a KB and if it really makes you that jealous, then maybe you should have a lemmonade stand put out and then after you sell enough you could have a KB too!


You are just a joke rofl.  Turbo systems are more expensive than a s/c system.  The turbo system I am installing is gonna run me down around 7.4k.  So I suggest you go back to school and start sucking more D*** for milk money.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 7:39:52 PM   
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I havn't seen ANYONE in this thread that has impressed me with any sort of real knowledge.  He isn't the only person who doesn't apear to know the difference.


Thanks, it really shows you know about boost when you selected the saleen s/c... Two thumbs up??

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 8:47:27 PM   
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Neandrthol boy you really have shown your intellect. I am sorry you never got past the third grade or had a girlfriend. Buy that turbofan, have it installed and have fun with it. By the way it sounds like you have a "little" penis envy.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 10:36:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Herknav

I havn't seen ANYONE in this thread that has impressed me with any sort of real knowledge.  He isn't the only person who doesn't apear to know the difference.


Thanks, it really shows you know about boost when you selected the saleen s/c... Two thumbs up??

Andrew



How very petty.

I am completely satisfied with my car.  Its making 440rwhp and 440tq.  Much more than that on a stock block is asking for it.  It looks good and handles good.  So I could care less what you think of my selection of power adders.  It means absolutely zip to me.  I hope you enjoy your turbo and your superiority complex.


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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 10:52:47 PM   
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Neandrthol boy you really have shown your intellect. I am sorry you never got past the third grade or had a girlfriend. Buy that turbofan, have it installed and have fun with it. By the way it sounds like you have a "little" penis envy.


LOL look who is talking about 3rd grade, you still haven't typed Neanderthal right yet in more than two tries haha.  NEANDRTHOL ROFL.  Go and buy your KB Roots Supercharger haha.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 11:09:17 PM   
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Not too quick are we Neandrothol. Let me help you out I was using part of your sign in name.......like you did with mine!!!!!!!!!!!!  Pop musta put your swingset too close to the house. Oops I mispelled must have. Don't worry though I'll stop picking on you as I now realize you are handicapped. Goodbye Neandrothol.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 11:13:14 PM   
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ohh man...this has turned into a love hate realtionship...were all stang fans here, cant we all just get along...btw, ill smoke any of u...KB, Whipple, Saleen, Roush, Magnuson, except for maybe a Turbo...my point is, there is always someone faster and has more power.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 11:33:30 PM   
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What a waste of a read...  mine is bigger than yours!

I just want to point out with everyone's expert opinions flying around that no one has bothered to realize that none of the SC discussed are roots types at all, they are twin screw, (Saleen, KB, Whipple) and centrifical (Procharger).  The Rousch blower is a roots.


very very good point to bring up; i didn't realize that; kind of knew in the back of my head but not really.


what is the major difference between roots and twin screw?


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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/25/2007 11:41:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Herknav

What a waste of a read...  mine is bigger than yours!

I just want to point out with everyone's expert opinions flying around that no one has bothered to realize that none of the SC discussed are roots types at all, they are twin screw, (Saleen, KB, Whipple) and centrifical (Procharger).  The Rousch blower is a roots.


very very good point to bring up; i didn't realize that; kind of knew in the back of my head but not really.


what is the major difference between roots and twin screw?



While I hate using wiki, it was the quickest route in this instance...

Roots blower:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_blower

Twin Screw:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-screw_type_supercharger



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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/26/2007 1:19:55 AM   
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The only problem I have is that the lord of boost himself actually knows nothing like almost everyone that has posted on this thread has come to the same conclusion.  Go with your twin screw, Ill make more power/torque, have a better power band with a turbo than I could with any other s/c.  Remember s/c's are a parasitic power adder.  They rob hp to make hp.

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RE: roots vs. centri - 2/26/2007 1:52:02 PM   
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The only problem I have is that the lord of boost himself actually knows nothing like almost everyone that has posted on this thread has come to the same conclusion.  Go with your twin screw, Ill make more power/torque, have a better power band with a turbo than I could with any other s/c.  Remember s/c's are a parasitic power adder.  They rob hp to make hp.

Andrew


Androdz, I am not trying to getting into an argument with you nor am I  doubting you and your torque claim etc. But does it really matter...Someone will always have a faster car etc...this machismo my penis is bigger than your crap is boring. I just read through 5 pages of dribble that really was only about who liked a roots vs centri....unfortunately, it was skewed with twin screw based chargers etc and your ususal PRO TURBO sales pitch you put in on anyone who talks about getting a SC. It is awesome that you prefer the Turbo...it is so awesome that you should truly be contacting whoever makes turbos and take claim to a % due to your true undying belief in turbo superiority and your consistent ability to pitch them on the forum,  but to me to each is own. I appreciate that some day you will pull up next to someone with enough boost to freaking hit the moon, that same day you will adjust your boost to whatever you want and you could beat that supercharged car next to you at the light....then, after all is said and done, ...you will have proven your total dominance of the entire msutang and human race.....but bottom line, it will not sway, or change allot of owners minds..because at the end of the day, it is your opinion, it is your car, just like my car is my car....I have seen some with some great turbos, some with some nice prochargers, some saleen, some roush etc etc etc.....all of them awesome cars, with allot of HP and torque....but each person had their own reason they went with what they did, but you know something, not a single person I spoke with...had such a superiority complex...not one stated...your car sucks because its not _____ (fill in chosen mod here) nope, they all said, wow,,,,great freaking car...and when some of them raced...they were like holy sheeyat....that was fast....ahh u lost....you felt bad for losing, but you had nothing to gain (except bragging rights for an hour or so before everyone went down the street and had a beer or something) you drove your modded car and had fun....thats what its about....I personally think, at times, you have lost sight of that. I think everyone on this forum...knows YOU LOVE TURBO....everyone knows and has read you prove turbo superiority....but can one Supercharger conversation start and end without you YELLING turbos rule,,,everything else sucks...one time??? I doubt it, but it would be neat to see...now go ahead and bash me or anything else...again, this was not in disrespect towards you, just an observation

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