Anyone know of a good forum(s) for people with Diablo tuners? I am going to buy one, but don't want to use one of their base tunes right away. I don't need to be running 91 octane and just want to adjust a few things and would like to be educated. The forums are usually a good place. An example is that I have no idea what the advantage to adjust shift firmness (I have an auto) of my transmission would be or how much to push it...etc Stuff like this could get answered.
Thanks, Ceyko
< Message edited by ceyko -- 11/1/2004 6:00:13 PM >
well you do want the program for 91 octage for it to advance your timing for a few more hp...you can however use 89 with that mod as I do in my truck
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I've been in the market for a programmer. Either a Diablo Predator or an SCT Xcalibrator. Go read www.ford-trucks.com for Diablo Predator stuff and www.modulardepot.com for Xcalibrator stuff. You'll probably see a bunch of my posts there.
why not get a tweecer..that way you can make changes as your mod list grows
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not familiar with a tweecer, but I'll check it out. However, wouldn't you be able to do the same thing with the diablo predator? They have premade tunes, but you can manipulate the other settings I think.
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Whoa man, it looks like I could really fudge some stuff up with that thing man. Looking at it, there is no simple stuff for it and it looks very complicated. I guess I'd rather have less functionality and be safe rather then have more functionality and screw my car up badly. Might have to stick with somewhat idiot proof things like the Diablo tuner or the MicroTuner.
Thanks for the reference, but that gadget looks out of my league. (Although I like the idea of using a laptop as opposed to a cookie cutter handheld.)
Been in the market for a tuner for a while myself. I have been thinking that the diablo looked good, but havn't bought it yet. Meybe I can pick up some valuable info too.
As an FYI, I email diablo's tech support about the 87 octane tune. They were very general in response and basically said that they don't support 87 octane with their cookie cutter load and that a 120 dollar (not including the 35 dollars kit for the pc) custom tune would be needed to use 87 octane.
I guess maybe I can ask my questions here and get better answers.
1. I want to use the tuner to improve my automatic transmission characteristics. This should not require better gas. Based off the screen shots, you can adjust shift firmness. What is the advantage to making it firmer as opposed to looser? What are the disadvantages.
2. Has anyone had experience with the MicroTuner AND the Diablosport Predator? I know the Microtuner has some built in tunes for 87 and higher gas. I just don't know if you can get good custom tunes - one day I'll have a SC.
3. Has anyone used the Diablosport Predator higher octane tune, running 87 octane in a Mustang? I don't really want to pay 120 for a custom tune until I have some more stuff on my car.
Maybe others have the same questions, so hopefully this will be a useful thread.
Take care ya'll, and thanks for the previous posts and any future. :)
I can answer the question about shift firmness. Ever heard of a shift kit? It'll do about the same thing. When your auto tranny shifts it is relatavely smooth. With a shift kit, or the diablo shift firmness tune, your shifts will be much harder. Much like speed shifting in a manual or dumping the clutch. bottom line is you feel mure thump between gears.
Driving slow.... shifting softer...... full throttle..... shifting firmer. Get the idea? Just remember if you baby it too much.... it'll run like a baby.
As an FYI, I email diablo's tech support about the 87 octane tune. They were very general in response and basically said that they don't support 87 octane with their cookie cutter load and that a 120 dollar (not including the 35 dollars kit for the pc) custom tune would be needed to use 87 octane.
I guess maybe I can ask my questions here and get better answers.
1. I want to use the tuner to improve my automatic transmission characteristics. This should not require better gas. Based off the screen shots, you can adjust shift firmness. What is the advantage to making it firmer as opposed to looser? What are the disadvantages.
2. Has anyone had experience with the MicroTuner AND the Diablosport Predator? I know the Microtuner has some built in tunes for 87 and higher gas. I just don't know if you can get good custom tunes - one day I'll have a SC.
3. Has anyone used the Diablosport Predator higher octane tune, running 87 octane in a Mustang? I don't really want to pay 120 for a custom tune until I have some more stuff on my car.
Maybe others have the same questions, so hopefully this will be a useful thread.
Take care ya'll, and thanks for the previous posts and any future. :)
Ceyko
i don't have the predator, but i am still trying to get familar with it. you can call these guys whenever you have any diablo questions... these guys are great tuners and do an awesome job. DynoTuned Performance ask for Brent 757-549-3966
ya i have a shift kit in my aod and i dont even notice it while drivin from A to B unless i womp on it when a damn ricer thinks his fart pipe makes his POS into a race car
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Ah, that sounds cool for when racing, but harder on the tranny over time?
Take care, Ceyko
Yes and no. A firmer, quicker shift means less slipping of the clutch. In effect, the clutches will last longer. However, a quicker shift is done by increasing the line pressure. This puts more pressure on the seals. Too much can cause leaks. There's more stuff about this on www.tccoa.com. Their section on transmissions should answer a lot of your questions.
< Message edited by propellerhead -- 11/3/2004 9:19:39 AM >
As an FYI, I email diablo's tech support about the 87 octane tune. They were very general in response and basically said that they don't support 87 octane with their cookie cutter load and that a 120 dollar (not including the 35 dollars kit for the pc) custom tune would be needed to use 87 octane.
Ceyko
I don't think that's entirely true. I remember reading some FAQ or response from a Diablo dealer about the 91 octane issue. The Diablo tune is basically doing what a Timing Adjuster does. It advances the timing to squeeze out more performance but this requires running a higher octane fuel so you don't get pinging. You can take the Diablo Predator's Performance Tune and back off the timing setting until you don't get any pinging with 87 octane. You won't get the most out of the Performance Tune though.
Hey everyone, thanks for the posts. This all makes sense. Propellerhead - What your saying definetly makes sense - but it seems worth the sacrifice. :)
As an FYI, 5.0 Mustang has an article about the Predator for a 4.6 SOHC. They raved about it, but I have not been reading those magazines long enough to tell if they'd actually complain. :)
Additionally, I tried to get more information from diablosport via tech support about an 87 tune. I think it goes right along with what propellerhead said. They say they'll improve tranmission shifting, and gas mileage with an "87 Octane tune". I personally think it is BS that you'd have to pay extra for that. However, it should be easy enough to get the tuner and 1. Change it so the speedo is right for gears 2. bump up the shift firmness a bit and monitor...continue and bump back when overdone. 3. bump timing and monitor - continue until not right.
Plus they have that data logging stuff that might be useful for troubleshoot the timing side of life. All-in-all, the predator seems like a better purchase over the Microtuner. The Microtuner seems limited in configuration and outdated - even though it does come with a base '87 tune.
Hopefully this information is useful to more then just me. haha
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